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Post by flyinghilly2 on Nov 27, 2021 9:18:15 GMT 12
Jamie Jameson flew in the Battle of Britain and later was a Wing Leader in WW2.
Earlier in the war he landed his Hurricane on HMS Glorious which was sunk under him a few days later- he was one of the few survivors
Does anyone on the forum know how to connect with his family?
I am doing research and would really like to connect with someone in his family. Harvey Sweetman told me that Jamie and his wife, Hilda, had children and grandchildren so I thought maybe some one knows where they are
Thanks
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Post by McFly on Nov 27, 2021 9:51:52 GMT 12
While not helpful in finding decedents of the Jameson's, thought this might be interesting...  "The wedding of Wing Commander Patrick Geraint 'Jamie' Jameson and Hilda Webster. "The happy couple.- Sept 1941 (PR8803)"  (Air Force Museum Collection) |
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Post by flyinghilly2 on Nov 27, 2021 13:27:05 GMT 12
Great pic -.Jamie was one of NZ’s greatest WW2 fighter pilots yet not much is known about him
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Post by McFly on Nov 28, 2021 9:16:39 GMT 12
Great pic -.Jamie was one of NZ’s greatest WW2 fighter pilots yet not much is known about him While again not useful in finding their decedents, nevertheless these previous posts on this forum highlight some of his exploits... 7 June 1940 Norwegian Campaign: King Haakon together with Crown Prince Olav and the Norwegian Government departed Tromso aboard heavy cruiser HMS Devonshire to exile in Britain. New Zealander F/L Patrick Geraint Jameson led the first section of three Hurricanes of 46 Squadron to be evacuated from Bardufoss. They all landed safely aboard HMS Glorious, the first time that the RAF pilots had ever landed on a carrier and the Hurricanes were not equipped with arrestor gear. The rest of the squadron’s ten serviceable aircraft successfully followed along with Gladiators of 263 Squadron and Walrus of FAA 701 Squadron. 8 June 1940 Norwegian Campaign: On their way to Scapa Flow and while sailing through the Norwegian Sea, the funnel smoke from HMS Glorious and her two escorting destroyers Acasta and Ardent was spotted by the German battleships Scharnhorst and Gniesenau (part of Operation Juno). The British spotted the German ships shortly after 16:00 and Ardent was dispatched to investigate. Glorious did not alter course or increase speed. Five Swordfish were ordered to the flight deck and Action Stations were ordered at 16.20. No combat Air Patrol was being flown, no aircraft were ready on the deck for quick take-off and there was no lookout in Glorious’ crows nest. Scharnhorst opened fire on Ardent at 16:27 at a range of 16,000 yards, causing the destroyer to withdraw, firing torpedoes and making a smokescreen. Ardent scored one hit with her 4.7-inch guns on Scharnhorst but was hit several times by the German ships' secondary armament and sank at 17:25. Scharnhorst switched her fire to Glorious at 16:32 and scored her first hit six minutes later on her third salvo at a range of 26,000 yards, when one 11.1in hit the forward flight deck and burst in the upper hangar, starting a large fire. This hit destroyed two Swordfish being prepared for flight and the hole in the flight deck prevented any other aircraft from taking off. Splinters penetrated a boiler casing and caused a temporary drop in steam pressure. At 16:58 a second shell hit the homing beacon above the bridge and killed or wounded the captain and most of the personnel stationed there. Ardent’s smokescreen became effective enough to impair the visibility of the Germans from about 16:58 to 17:20 so they ceased fire on Glorious. Glorious was hit again in the centre engine room at 17:20 and this caused her to lose speed and commence a slow circle to port. She also developed a list to starboard. The German ships closed to within 16,000 yards and continued to fire at her until 17:40. Glorious sank at 18:10. As the German ships approached Glorious, Acasta which had been trying to maintain the smokescreen, broke through her own smoke and fired two volleys of torpedoes at Scharnhorst. One of these hit the battleship at 17:34 abreast her rear turret and badly damaged her. Acasta also managed one hit from her 4.7-inch guns on Scharnhorst but was riddled by German gunfire and sank at around 18:20. Survivors estimated that about 900 men abandoned Glorious. The German ships had suffered extensive damage themselves, and unaware that Allied ships were not in contact with Glorious beat a hasty retreat, and did not try to pick up survivors. The Royal Navy meanwhile, knew nothing of the sinking until it was announced on German radio. All ships encountering enemies had been ordered to broadcast a sighting report, but no such message was received from Glorious. New Zealander F/L Patrick Jameson and his commanding officer, Squadron Leader "Bing" Cross found themselves on a Carley float with thirty other survivors. After three days drifting in the freezing temperatures only seven men were alive to be picked up by the Norwegian cargo vessel Borgund. The two RAF pilots being the only surviving pilots of their unit. The Hurricanes that they had so skillfully landed aboard Glorious only hours before, went down with ship. The total killed or missing was 1,207 from Glorious, 160 from Acasta and 152 from Ardent, a total of 1,519. There were only 40 survivors. N.Z. PILOT'S FEATNIGHT LANDING ON CARRIERRUGBY, February 17. What is considered to be the first operational night landing on an aircraft-carrier by a night fighter was made by Lieutenant A. R. Burgham, R.N.Z.N.V.R., of Kohimarama, Auckland, during a naval action when U-boats were routed in the Arctic Ocean while an important convoy was taken safely to Russia and back recently. Lieutenant Burgham took off from the snow-covered decks of the wildly heaving carrier to drive off a night attack made by a Junkers 88. "It was a magnificent- piece of work," states a naval report. No further details are available at present of Lieutenant Burgham's feat, which recalls the fact that a New Zealander was also one of the first pilots ever to land a fast modern fighter on an aircraft-carrier in daylight. He is Group Captain P. G. Jameson, of Lower Hutt, who landed a Hurricane on the deck of H.M.S. Glorious off Norway early in the war. Lieutenant Burgham was mentioned in dispatches in October, 1944, "for services in the air defence of a convoy."—B.O.W. EVENING POST, 20 FEBRUARY 1945 Here's a great little snippet of kiwi Fleet Air Arm history, from the New Zealand Herald, Volume 82, Issue 25131, 19 February 1945, Page 4 (published 70 years ago today) NAVAL PILOT'S FEATNIGHT CARRIER LANDING OFFICER FROM AUCKLAND (Special Correspondent) (Recd. 6.30 p.m.) LONDON 7 Feb. 17 What is considered to be the first operational night landing on an aircraft carrier by a night fighter was made by Lieutenant A R. Burgham, R.N.Z.N.V.R.. of Kohimarama, Auckland. during a naval notion when a number of U-boats were routed in the Arctic, while an important convoy was taken safely to Russia and back. Lieutenant Burgham took off from the snow-covered decks of a wildly heaving carrier to. drive off a night attack made by a Junkers 88. "It- was a magnificent piece of work." states the naval report. No further details are available of Lieutenant Burgham's feat, which recalls the fact that a New Zealander was also one of the first pilots to land a fast, modern fighter on an aircraft-carrier in daylight. He was Group-Captain P. G. Jameson, of Lower Hutt. who landed a Hurricane on the deck of H.M.S Glorious off Norway early in the war Lieutenant Burgham was mentioned in despatches in October, 1944, "for services in the air defence of a convoy." ....and, I had more than a beer or two with Air Commodore Jamie Jameson after he retired to NZ. He was a Hutt Valley High School boy who joined the RAF, and was involved in the 1940 Norway campaign. They were told to destroy their Hurricanes [46 Sqn] but decided instead to attempt what none of them had ever done before, and that was fly out to sea to land on an aircraft carrier, HMS Glorious. but which was unfortunately sunk. Jamieson was one of only two pilots to survive because, as he said to me one day, "I used to swim in the Hutt river every day". From the three British vessels 1,519 lost their lives, including 1,207 from the carrier alone; 41 of the latter were RAF ground personnel, and 18 were pilots. Squadron Leader Cross and Flight Lieutenant Jameson from 46 Squadron managed to get aboard a Carley float with 61 seamen, but 25 of the latter died of exposure and exhaustion before the 38 survivors, the two RAF men amongst them, were finally picked up by a passing fishing vessel. Petty Officer Richard T. ‘Dick’ Leggot, 802 Squadron FAA was also one of the survivors. He stayed on in the RAF after the war, then inherited a castle in Ireland due to being a part of the Jameson Whiskie crowd. He hated the dampness however, so came home to NZ. A lovely guy. |
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Post by Dave Homewood on Nov 28, 2021 10:05:28 GMT 12
Patrick and Hilda Jameson apparently had a daughter named Susan Jameson. And possibly another child. I think your best bet is to find the death notice for Hilda Neille Haiselden Jameson, who died on the 10th of June 2009 (aged 94), as that should likely list the children's names with married names if Susan married. Hilda died at Otaki Beach, and was buried at the Taita Lawn Cemetery in NaeNae so I guess start with the local newspapers' death notices there. Note, Hilda Jameson seems to have been a reasonably well known singer in the old days, and there's an interview with her here about her life including with Jamie. tiaki.natlib.govt.nz/#details=ecatalogue.149156It also seems that Jamie Jameson's family was linked back to the founder of Jamesons' whisky, one of 1my favourite whiskies. |
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Post by errolmartyn on Nov 28, 2021 12:15:46 GMT 12
Jamie Jameson flew in the Battle of Britain and later was a Wing Leader in WW2. Earlier in the war he landed his Hurricane on HMS Glorious which was sunk under him a few days later- he was one of the few survivors Does anyone on the forum know how to connect with his family? I am doing research and would really like to connect with someone in his family. Harvey Sweetman told me that Jamie and his wife, Hilda, had children and grandchildren so I thought maybe some one knows where they are Thanks Larry, I've sent you a PM. Errol |
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