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Post by Antonio on Mar 29, 2022 21:59:17 GMT 12
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Post by tbf2504 on Mar 30, 2022 9:07:14 GMT 12
We watched that sinking with a huge crowd of wellingtonians on the south beaches. Very spectacular
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Post by Antonio on Mar 30, 2022 9:34:32 GMT 12
We watched that sinking with a huge crowd of wellingtonians on the south beaches. Very spectacular Me too. Spectacular indeed. |
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Post by nighthawknz on Mar 30, 2022 18:46:55 GMT 12
Wahhhh my first offical post after my training post (which was HMNZS Waikato) but still she has something in my heart...
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Post by Dave Homewood on Mar 30, 2022 19:58:48 GMT 12
What was your job/role on the ship nighthawknz?
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Post by nighthawknz on Mar 31, 2022 5:55:47 GMT 12
What was your job/role on the ship nighthawknz?
Being kept in the dark and feed on BS... in real terms I spent many hours looking at a radar screen... LOL I was even on watch when this happened...   |
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Post by Dave Homewood on Mar 31, 2022 7:39:41 GMT 12
So that's why they took the guns off the frigates, to stop it happening again...  |
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Post by mcmaster on Mar 31, 2022 18:23:29 GMT 12
So that's why they took the guns off the frigates, to stop it happening again... What a sad coincidence. The RNZAF also shot at a trawler and they took the Skyhawks away ... |
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Post by nige on Apr 1, 2022 8:48:15 GMT 12
What was your job/role on the ship nighthawknz? Being kept in the dark and feed on BS... in real terms I spent many hours looking at a radar screen... LOL I was even on watch when this happened... Wow didn't know that happened! But unsure of the tv news coverage though, it shows the main 4.5" gun being loaded and fired but surely the Navy can't fire such guns within that part of the gulf (as shown in the tv clip), so was it the 4.5" gun that fired or something smaller like a .50 cal machine gun? |
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Post by nighthawknz on Apr 3, 2022 5:52:15 GMT 12
Being kept in the dark and feed on BS... in real terms I spent many hours looking at a radar screen... LOL I was even on watch when this happened...   Wow didn't know that happened! But unsure of the tv news coverage though, it shows the main 4.5" gun being loaded and fired but surely the Navy can't fire such guns within that part of the gulf (as shown in the tv clip), so was it the 4.5" gun that fired or something smaller like a .50 cal machine gun? Was the four fives... there use to a be a firing range there... used regularly by the navy. (Don't know if it still gets used or not) Even after we stopped firing and told where it was... we could not see the vessel on radar, nor could we see them visually. It was a small wooded vessel and lowish in the water and had a very very low radar return it didn't show up on radar till we were nearly running them over. There were broad casts made on all official channels, inclucling in news papers and on radio, maritime channels etc... Navy did everything by the book. From memory I don't believe anyone was charged...also from memory the civy boatie wasn't listening to the right channels... |
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Post by Dave Homewood on Apr 3, 2022 9:49:20 GMT 12
Sounds like the RNZN should have immediately offered to purchase their boat to use on stealth ops.
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Post by Dave Homewood on Apr 3, 2022 9:51:29 GMT 12
I seem to recall a few days after that frigate was sunk there has a big storm that caused a huge undertow, and some of the ship washed up on shore. I wonder what happened to that wreckage. Was it scrapped, taken out and dropped in the water, or kept by a collector/museum?
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Post by davidd on Apr 3, 2022 10:39:15 GMT 12
Do not know the answer to your above question Dave, but the problem of locating low silhouette all-wood vessels by radar was also considered to be the major reason why the missing passenger vessel JOYITA (lost between Western Samoa and the Tokelaus in October 1955), although ultimately the abandoned vessel (25 crew & passengers) was located more or less complete and undamaged on 10th November by a passing ship. Subsequent radar trials were conducted using the Joyita, and again, it was all but invisible to the Sunderland's radar (ASV6C). The radar on the 1960s frigate would (I presume) have been more capable than the wartime Sunderland kit, but small, low, wooden or composite targets may still present problems even today. Anybody with infinitely greater knowledge of such things care to comment?
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Post by Antonio on Apr 3, 2022 11:16:25 GMT 12
I seem to recall a few days after that frigate was sunk there has a big storm that caused a huge undertow, and some of the ship washed up on shore. I wonder what happened to that wreckage. Was it scrapped, taken out and dropped in the water, or kept by a collector/museum? THE WRECK OF THE F69 FRIGATE WELLINGTON divewellington.co.nz/products/f69-wreck-dive HMNZS Wellington was a Leander class frigate of the Royal Navy and the Royal New Zealand Navy. Originally commissioned in 1969 for the Navy as HMS Bacchante, she joined the RNZN in 1982. She was decommissioned in 1999. 13th November 2005 the vessel was scuttled to create an artificial marine reef and a world class recreational dive site. The F69 Wellington lies in 21 meters of water, approximately 400m off the coast of Island Bay, just a 5 minute boat ride from Dive Wellington. She has broken into three pieces but remains a popular dive site within the marine reserve and plenty to see. |
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