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Post by Dave Homewood on Apr 7, 2022 14:27:31 GMT 12
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Post by baronbeeza on Apr 8, 2022 12:24:26 GMT 12
This explains why we had the real Lancaster bits getting around Wellington.
We had a thread with pics some years ago where it was obvious we were looking at an aircraft rather than a model or replica.
I believe we were supposed to keep quiet about the true nature of the beast back then.
I was quietly hoping it was the start of a local restoration but again this clip answers that also.
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Post by vs on Apr 23, 2022 14:54:50 GMT 12
Part 2 with a bit of a New Zealand connection
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Post by Dave Homewood on Apr 23, 2022 20:47:20 GMT 12
That second video was a good watch too.
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Post by ZacYates on Apr 24, 2022 16:27:48 GMT 12
That second video was a good watch too. Just imagine if Kermit had sold Sir Peter KB976. What an incredible "What if?" to contemplate! |
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Post by shorty on Apr 24, 2022 17:16:15 GMT 12
What became of the Lincoln seen in the second video?
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Post by saratoga on Apr 24, 2022 19:13:52 GMT 12
The way Kermit said it, sounds like the Lincoln fuselage is/was with Peter Jackson.
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Post by l29 on Apr 24, 2022 21:04:47 GMT 12
What became of the Lincoln seen in the second video? That is the fuselage that has been seen in a number of pics getting transported around wellington. Made to represent a Lancaster. |
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Post by Antonio on Apr 25, 2022 12:23:37 GMT 12
What became of the Lincoln seen in the second video? What the serial number of the Lincoln? |
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Post by Mustang51 on Apr 25, 2022 14:17:05 GMT 12
Yes please...........what is its history. Have not viewed Pt 2 of the video....maybe it is in there?
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Post by ZacYates on Apr 25, 2022 15:56:10 GMT 12
What became of the Lincoln seen in the second video? The Lincoln photo in the video is of RF398 at RAF Museum Cosford. Yes please...........what is its history. Have not viewed Pt 2 of the video....maybe it is in there? We see nothing of the Lincoln, only a few photos of the replica Lancasters. After looking at Geoff Goodall's Warbird Directory I'm no clearer as to the Jackson Lincon's identity. RF342 was the Church/Arnold machine, which I thought it was, but according to Goodall is the aircraft now at Moorabbin... Here's what I transcribed starting at 26m44s(ish): |
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Post by saratoga on Apr 25, 2022 18:51:21 GMT 12
And i think he would like his turrets back sometime too. A 3 year loan 15 years ago... Though he seemed surprised he had a Lancaster, couldn't recall buying it!.
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Post by emron on Apr 26, 2022 10:19:50 GMT 12
I’m not sure what parts if any from Lincoln RF342 have been incorporated in Sir Peter’s replica, but definitely not the fuselage sections. These parts have been in Australia since 2007. There is some evidence that parts, including this fuselage, possibly along with damaged sections from Lancaster KB976, may have stopped over in NZ while in transit from UK to Australia late 2006. This fits in with the timeline for construction of the replica. Weta may have taken impressions of surface features to ensure authenticity. I know they took extensive photos and measurements from MOTAT’s example at the time.
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Post by emron on Apr 26, 2022 15:03:12 GMT 12
Kermit has the cockpit, centre section, outer wings and the tailplane from KB976. The mid and rear fuselage sections are from KB994. The nose section now with project, while fitted to KB976 at the time of the roof collapse was also originally from KB994, having been swapped over back in 1969.
The damaged mid section of fuselage from KB976 now belongs to owners in Australia. The damaged rear fuselage sections are owned by the South Yorkshire Air Museum and presently on loan to the Lincolnshire Aviation Heritage Centre. The cockpit and long type nose left over from KB994, parts of which originally came from KB976, are now with Replica Aircraft Fabrications in UK who intend to rebuild a complete airframe.
As for the Lincoln that Kermit mentioned, RF342, the majority of the surviving parts have resided in Australia since 2007, stored in Melbourne. These are minus the cockpit/nose, undercarriage and engines. The cockpit/nose section last fitted to RF342 was a Lancaster type, formerly from TW911 and was not part of that purchase. This front section is now on display at the Flying Heritage Collection, USA.
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Post by ZacYates on Apr 26, 2022 17:09:54 GMT 12
I thought it very unlikely the Jackson machine would be RF342 given the effort by Mark Pilkington and others to get that machine to Australia.
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Post by Dave Homewood on Apr 26, 2022 19:30:30 GMT 12
So that does not solve the mystery of which Lancaster fuselage is in Wellington.
And that Lincoln in Australia, after all the effort and dealings to get it there, has had zero restoration yet, sadly.
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Post by ZacYates on Apr 27, 2022 12:05:53 GMT 12
So that does not solve the mystery of which Lancaster fuselage is in Wellington. The way Kermit says it, is that it's a Lincoln and for the purposes of the film it was modified into a Lancaster lookalike. But I can't for the life of me figure out which Lincoln it could be. And that Lincoln in Australia, after all the effort and dealings to get it there, has had zero restoration yet, sadly. A very worthy effort that I hope reaches fruition one day. I remember well all the trials of securing that airframe and getting it "home"! |
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Post by saratoga on Apr 27, 2022 14:41:49 GMT 12
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Post by ZacYates on Apr 28, 2022 13:36:15 GMT 12
Thank you, that first link is absolutely fantastic! Still trying to tie together the threads...
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Post by ZacYates on Apr 29, 2022 10:40:04 GMT 12
From "adrian_gray" at the Key Publishing Forums regarding the possible Sir Peter Jackson airframe:
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