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Post by chrism on May 27, 2024 18:51:41 GMT 12
Just wondering if anyone has any pictures of P40 NZ3024, particularly after its crash on the 3rd April 1944. It collided mid air with NZ3010 near Hunterville and both aircraft were destroyed, luckily both pilots survived. I have the archives crash report, R21075633, but there are no photos attached to the file. I have asked archives to double check but they still say there aren't any. I have it on good authority though that there used to be several photos with the file. I managed to track down photos of NZ3010 thanks to the efforts of the Air Force Museum but still nothing of NZ3024. I am hoping someone may have some copies somewhere? Thanks.
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Post by Antonio on Jun 1, 2024 8:53:54 GMT 12
From the The RNZAF P-40 Pile: P-40E NZ3010 FE-D: 2(F) OTU Mid air collision with NZ3024 during formation training from Ohakea on 03 April 1944. Flying Officer M. Hancox uninjured. Note the White bars Photo: RNZAF Ohakea (Unit 12) G1653 dated 5th April 1944
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Post by chrism on Jun 1, 2024 10:50:41 GMT 12
From the The RNZAF P-40 Pile: P-40E NZ3010 FE-D: 2(F) OTU Mid air collision with NZ3024 during formation training from Ohakea on 03 April 1944. Flying Officer M. Hancox uninjured. Note the White bars Photo: RNZAF Ohakea (Unit 12) G1653 dated 5th April 1944[br Thanks for that, do you know where the photo originates? Archives, Airforce or private? Cheers
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Post by davidd on Jun 1, 2024 12:44:19 GMT 12
Definitely an RNZAF official photograph, but the negative may not survive. It seems that some official accident photographs were "purged" from accident files, or stolen!
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Post by chrism on Jun 1, 2024 20:48:34 GMT 12
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Post by Dave Homewood on Jun 1, 2024 21:28:34 GMT 12
Poor thing.
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Post by chrism on Jun 2, 2024 9:11:33 GMT 12
Poor thing. Poor thing alright! The tail section was severed mid air and the fuselage broke up as it tumbled through the air, losing the engine in the process. Surprising and lucky that the pilot made it out safely! NZ3024 apparently broke up in a similar fashion to this but would love to see photos of it! We have some wreckage recovered from the site but are struggling to identify which aircraft of the two it is from.
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Post by Antonio on Jun 2, 2024 9:49:27 GMT 12
Thanks for that, do you know where the photo originates? Archives, Airforce or private? Cheers?
Ho chrism, The photo was amongst a bunch of P-40 crash photos (All RNZAF Official with G numbers) that were passed on by an Air Force Warrant Officer many years ago.
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Post by chrism on Jun 2, 2024 10:00:36 GMT 12
Thanks for that, do you know where the photo originates? Archives, Airforce or private? Cheers? Ho chrism, The photo was amongst a bunch of P-40 crash photos (All RNZAF Official with G numbers) that were passed on by an Air Force Warrant Officer many years ago. Thanks, what other identities are amongst the photos? Have they been posted on here before? Cheers
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Post by markrogers on Jun 2, 2024 12:55:57 GMT 12
According to Pacific Wrecks and NZDF Serials websites, the info on NZ3024 has it recorded as having landed successfully after the collision with the pilot W Hackshaw uninjured, shortly after the aircraft was written off the books and reduced to spares. Interestedly the Air Force museum at Wigram had its P-40 when it was under restoration painted up as NZ3024, a photo on NZDF serials website shows it as such, but it now has a different identity on display in the museum
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Post by Antonio on Jun 2, 2024 17:03:12 GMT 12
Thanks for that, do you know where the photo originates? Archives, Airforce or private? Cheers? Ho chrism, The photo was amongst a bunch of P-40 crash photos (All RNZAF Official with G numbers) that were passed on by an Air Force Warrant Officer many years ago. Thanks, what other identities are amongst the photos? Have they been posted on here before? Cheers Yes they have. Rather than hijack the threat, here is the link: The RNZAF P-40 Pile
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Post by chrism on Jun 2, 2024 18:01:06 GMT 12
Thanks, what other identities are amongst the photos? Have they been posted on here before? Cheers Yes they have. Rather than hijack the threat, here is the link: The RNZAF P-40 PileThanks Antonio, I would have seen them then as I frequently browse that thread! Cheers
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Post by chrism on Jun 2, 2024 18:08:17 GMT 12
According to Pacific Wrecks and NZDF Serials websites, the info on NZ3024 has it recorded as having landed successfully after the collision with the pilot W Hackshaw uninjured, shortly after the aircraft was written off the books and reduced to spares. Interestedly the Air Force museum at Wigram had its P-40 when it was under restoration painted up as NZ3024, a photo on NZDF serials website shows it as such, but it now has a different identity on display in the museum Yes unfortunately Pacific Wrecks is incorrect. NZDF serials just state that the pilot was uninjured, although he did injure his shoulder when bailing out. The RNZAF crash report states that both pilots bailed out after the collision and both aircraft were a total write off with wreckage spread over a large valley. Both pilots then trekked to a nearby farmhouse to alert the authorities. Yes interesting that the RNZAF museum originally chose NZ3024's scheme before settling on a generic but false identity. Both schemes look great though!
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