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Post by Calum on Oct 23, 2006 14:57:18 GMT 12
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Post by phil on Oct 23, 2006 19:26:44 GMT 12
But why give it to a training sqn....?
As a bomber, 75 would be the better choice!
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Post by corsair67 on Oct 23, 2006 19:27:36 GMT 12
Thanks for that, Calum - that is very funny. I think an RNZAF B-52H with 75SQN decals would be good too.
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Post by mumbles on Oct 23, 2006 20:31:03 GMT 12
Funniest thing I've in at least the last half hour (it's been an entertaining evening at my place).
How about a 14 Vulcan, or a 5 Nimrod?
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Post by Bruce on Oct 23, 2006 20:38:13 GMT 12
That would be the only one operated by the RNZAF - in fact it would be the only aircraft full stop! (would take a fair chunk of the annual defence budget methinks....) Good one Dave!
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Post by skyhawkdon on Oct 26, 2006 12:02:25 GMT 12
Funniest thing I've in at least the last half hour (it's been an entertaining evening at my place). How about a 14 Vulcan, or a 5 Nimrod? In the 1970's an RAF Vulcan visiting Ohakea has its RAF roundels replaced by NZ (Kiwi) ones! So we sort of did "own" a Vulcan at one stage!
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Post by phil82 on Oct 26, 2006 14:58:24 GMT 12
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Post by phil on Oct 26, 2006 17:01:31 GMT 12
I'm pretty sure the Vulcan that was damaged during an airshow at Rongotai (lost part of it's u/c?), and was repaired over here (forced landing at Ohakea I think) was also painted with RNZAF roundels.
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Post by corsair67 on Oct 26, 2006 19:09:00 GMT 12
Well, who's got their nose out of joint? Colin, someone had to stay home and keep Helen Clark company over the weekend! ;D
And I'll have you know that it's a bit hard to sun yourself when it's overcast all the time.
Anyway, what are you complaining about? I have it on good authority that you had a nice bottle of plonk hand delivered to you from this wide brown land.
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Post by phil82 on Oct 26, 2006 20:13:55 GMT 12
It's actually Blackjack, which for the less well-informed is one of the finest reds ever to not come out of OZ [you can't buy it in NZ], and I haven't seen it yet!
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Post by phil82 on Oct 27, 2006 8:38:03 GMT 12
Right, for those who don't know the full story, the Vulcan was displaying at the opening of Rongotai [Wellington Airport] in 1959 and sank a bit before touchdown and hit the mound on the seaward end which broke the port undercarriage in a big way. The aircraft continued to drop to the left and the wingtip was actually scraping the runway when the pilot slammed the throttles open and the aircraft climbed away. They opted to return to Ohakea, and in the subsequent discussion the guys in the back were given the opportunity to bale out but told the Captain to 'get stuffed', or words to that effect. Leaving a Vulcan, in flight, wih the gear down, would be a risky business at best. The aircraft then landed at Ohakea, and the left wing was held up long enough to tip onto the grass. A brilliant piece of flyimg all round.
The Aircraft remained at Ohakea for some months while a team of people came out from the UK to fix it, and it eventually flew home. There are lots of photos around on the net by the way The Fire Section has a couple in the 'rogues gallery', on display.
Some years later, early 60s, there was a Harvard at Ohakea which made a rather odd approach and landed before the pilot, a P/O, declared he had a slight problem and shut down. The 'slight problem' turned out to be a badly damaged right wingtip which had left the aileron dangling in the breeze! It turned out that our young friend had been doing some unauthorised low flying along Himitangi Beach and had clipped the cab of a truck! Nice bit of flying to get it back, but he was dismissed from the air force nonetheless. Gone within 24 hours!
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Post by corsair67 on Oct 27, 2006 11:33:39 GMT 12
Colin, is it true that one of the Vulcans that visited New Zealand crashed upon arrival back in the UK with the loss of all crew on board?
I seem to recall reading this some time ago.
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Post by phil82 on Oct 27, 2006 14:38:59 GMT 12
Yes, created a huge outcry, [although I was still at school I hasten to add!] john-dillon.co.uk/V-Force/xa897_london.htmlI didn't have a lot to do with the Vulcan other than I was around when they were and they got around quite a bit so you couldn't avoid them really. I spent two years on an airfield with the Victor 2
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Post by davelochead on Oct 29, 2006 13:30:58 GMT 12
because they, unlike 75 sqdn, were the last NZ bomber Squadron to fly combat missions, in Malaya with Canberras..
im pleased you like it, and find the resulting Vulcan discussion very interesting..
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Post by Dave Homewood on Nov 6, 2006 11:00:52 GMT 12
You tell em Dave! The Fighting Fourteen were not always a training Squadron, one of our best fighter and fighter-bomber units.
Also, the Vulcan that had the Rongotai incident in 1959 couldn't have received an RNZAF roundel as our roundels then were the same as the RAF's.
Some sources have stated that the Rongotai Vulcan was the one that crashed on the journey home, but that's incorrect.
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Post by phil82 on Nov 7, 2006 14:11:07 GMT 12
Not this poster, see my earlier post on the Heathrow Vulcan crash above.
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