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Post by fletcherfu24 on Feb 16, 2008 18:12:12 GMT 12
Been racking my brain(or lack there of) trying to remember what year did we drop the ZK- prefix off civil aircraft in NZ?. I'm thinking late 1970s..ish?.....  |
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Post by flyjoe180 on Feb 17, 2008 11:34:05 GMT 12
Sorry can't answer that question. But I can provide a bit of useless info: did you know New Zealand also has the option to use ZL and ZM as an international prefix? And that the Flying Flea is the only aircraft in NZ to have used the ZM prefix?
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Post by Martin Wienert on Feb 17, 2008 12:09:52 GMT 12
quote: ' what year did we drop the ZK- prefix off civil aircraft in NZ?' ZK - thought in use since 1929? Or? ZK AAA – ZZZ Registered Aircraft CAA ARX ZM AAA - CZZ Unregistered Aircraft CAA ARX RSM ZM EAA - ZZZ Unregistered Aircraft CAA ARX RSM www.rsm.govt.nz/cms/pdf-library/pib46-iss-003.pdf |
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Post by flyjoe180 on Feb 17, 2008 12:24:20 GMT 12
I think the question refers to the dropping of the 'ZK' marking when the aircraft is flown only within New Zealand?
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Post by sniff on Feb 17, 2008 18:07:26 GMT 12
Military owned a number of ZM regos. Any aircraft that had a Signallers position (those are the guys who became AEOps, who now are ASO's) and had ancient HF equpment - compete with pecking motors (perhaps that is why they were called Tweets!) and, yes, trailing aerials, had a ZM-xxx plate in the radio station. So go find a Bug expert and you might find what those registrations were. Certainly on Daks and Freighters, and I presume the Devons (I had other things on my mind as a pilot u/t!  ). I guess they were allocated to DC-6's and Hastings too? |
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Post by fletcherfu24 on Feb 17, 2008 20:35:59 GMT 12
Correct.....any advance on the late 1970's.......phone a friend or ask the audience??.... |
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Post by area51 on Feb 18, 2008 15:43:31 GMT 12
I asked the audience (!) and an authority on such matters informs me 1975 was the year that ZK was no longer required to be displayed.
Mike
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Post by fletcherfu24 on Feb 18, 2008 16:36:23 GMT 12
Cheers for that....  |
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Post by sniff on Feb 18, 2008 19:01:28 GMT 12
Sounds like they didnt complete the mod when they removed the morse key, Mike.  "Remove morse key, remove reg plate" Must admit I never noticed it either, but then it was behind the 288....  |
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Post by Peter Lewis on Feb 19, 2008 20:54:37 GMT 12
I'd say 1972. It was purely a local thing, restricted to aircraft that would not be operated outside NZ. We flew Airtourer WBW for years with just that painted on, but when it was being prepared for the delivery flight to Australia we had to add the ZK for that flight. At the same time, gliders could also omit the 'G' and helicopters the 'H' part of the prefix.  |
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Post by tbf25o4 on Feb 27, 2008 15:03:15 GMT 12
Prior to 1970 all RNZAF aircraft carrying a signaller used the ZMZXX series of callsigns for morse and VHF ATC.
For example Orion NZ4201 was ZMZEL 02 ZMZEM, 02 EN, 04 EO, 05 EP
the letter "E" designated the aircraft type and the last letter the individual aircraft.
While normally starting off at ZMZxA for the first aircraft in the series, the Orions used ZEL as there were TEAL electras flying with registrations TEA, TEB, TED.
A good example of the last letters can be found on the Sunderlands which used the letters
ZMZGx
Feighters were ZMZB
Dakotas ZMZD
Hastings ZMZA
devons ZMZK
Individual letters not used were "C" and "R" as these could be confused with phonetic calls used in ATC
There is a full article on the allocation of RNZAF Aircraft callsigns in recent Aviation Historical Society Journals
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). I guess they were allocated to DC-6's and Hastings too?
