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Post by dakman on May 17, 2013 8:22:35 GMT 12
Shorty re the ATC glider at Ohakea .was it GFW ? a metal Slingsby.This was painted in a military style c/s .It was used at many ATC gliding camps at Masterton I think I have pics of it from around 01/02 1969
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Post by TS on May 17, 2013 9:26:47 GMT 12
Sorry if this is not in the correct place  But it is to do with the ATC in 1942. Some good shots of aircraft.  |
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Post by baronbeeza on May 17, 2013 9:27:05 GMT 12
Now you have me wondering.. were the two ATC gliders I can recall coming into the country in 1970 L-13 Blaniks or were they K-13's ?
I did a camp at Omaka about before 1971 and we had a Kookabura ZK-GBB and a K-13 ZK-GFY
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Post by baronbeeza on May 17, 2013 9:35:42 GMT 12
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Post by Peter Lewis on May 17, 2013 12:12:17 GMT 12
I have the following gliders as registered to ATC units:
Schleicher Rhönlerche II ZK-GBC - Air Training Corps., Ohakea Feb73 to Mar83. Sold, eventually to Australia as VH-IKK
Slingsby T.53B ZK-GFQ - Auckland Air Training Corps Gliding School Inc., Auckland Apr93 to Jun02. Sold, still current
Slingsby T.53B ZK-GFW - Air Training Corps., Wellington Oct68. Cr on landing Ohakea 22Aug71, reg canc 14Dec71. Later rebuilt, sold, & WFU Sep08
Schleicher AS-K 13 ZK-GFX - Air Training Corps., Wellington Dec69 to Jun79. Sold, still current
Schleicher AS-K 13 ZK-GFY - Air Training Corps., Wellington Dec69 to Nov74. Sold, still current
Also:
Schleicher Rhönlerche II ZK-GKE was with The Auckland Branch of the Air Cadet League of NZ Inc. Jan75 to Dec93. Sold, still current
Slingsby T.61C Falke ZK-DOI became ZK-GOD, with The Auckland Branch of the Air Cadet League of NZ Inc. Mar90, to Auckland ATC Gliding School Inc., Pakuranga May94. Sold Dec07, Reg canc as revoked by CAA Sep08, currently stored at Drury.
Schleicher Rhönlerche II ZK-GBO - Air Cadet League, Wellington Mar77, to Gore Branch, Air Cadet League Apr82. WFU & stored at Wigram, reg canc Jul91.
Schleicher Rhönlerche ZK-GCN - Air Cadet League GC, Wigram Nov74 until condemned as waterlogged. Reg canc Mar77. To Nelson GC as spares.
Schleicher Ka 7 Rhönadler ZK-GDA - Air Cadet League, Blenheim May92. Landed in creek bed near Omaka 19Jul92.
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Post by baronbeeza on May 17, 2013 13:02:43 GMT 12
I can see now that the two new gliders I was thinking of were the two AS K-13's.
Schleicher AS-K 13 ZK-GFX - Air Training Corps., Wellington Dec69 to Jun79. Sold, still current
Schleicher AS-K 13 ZK-GFY
I really did not realise FY was so new when I flew it. We were towed behind a Tiger Moth.
Presumably it was FW Shorty saw at Ohakea and even though it was still near new it was about to have a more serious accident.
I jumped to conclusions with Shorty's all metal description. I did not remember the Slingsby T-53B gliders in service here. Apologies guys.
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Post by bae on May 23, 2014 21:19:31 GMT 12
Sorry if this is not in the correct place But it is to do with the ATC in 1942. Some good shots of aircraft. Great film 'Telegraph Girls' and trainee pilots - great mixture. |
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Post by lumpy on May 23, 2014 22:04:44 GMT 12
I have the following gliders as registered to ATC units: Schleicher Ka 7 Rhönadler ZK-GDA - Air Cadet League, Blenheim May92. Landed in creek bed near Omaka 19Jul92. Hi , just noticed this . The Ka-7 operated by ATC Blenheim ( 27 sqn ) was ZK-GBN .It was replaced by Blanik ZK-GPJ in 1987 |
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Post by shorty on May 27, 2014 14:01:42 GMT 12
Just looked at some images of the T 53B and, yes, that is the one I remember seeing at Ohakea
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Post by noooby on May 28, 2014 7:41:01 GMT 12
Yes, GDA was owned by the Marlborough Gliding Club as a replacement for the Blanik that was pranged. GDA was a nice tight K7, but after it was pranged, it was replaced by another Blanik. I hared flying the Blanik, the windscreen metal frame was right in my sight line, whereas I did all my training on the K7, so when it arrived in Blenheim, I was over the moon!!!  |
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Post by davidd on Oct 3, 2014 13:12:18 GMT 12
The 1942 ATC film is certainly worth a good look (at least twice through recommended!) The views of Mk IV Vildebests (the ones with Bristol Perseus sleeve-valve engines and three bladed Rotol props) are quite sharp, and I imagine there cannot be too much film stock of those beesties surviving, in UK or NZ. These would be with No. 1 GR Squadron, Whenuapai. And then there are the Tiger Moths of 4 EFTS (also at Whenuapai), all apparently wearing a style of presenting their code numbers which I have never seen before - apparently 'normal' black numbers on cowling, with same number repeated forward of fuselage roundel in a lighter colour (blue?) with a thin black outline (my guess). The date of these views must have been very early in 1942 (January/February) as all the Whenuapai Vildebeest IVs were soon with 7 GR Squadron at Waipapakauri - they were replaced at Whenuapai by Pegasus-powered Vincents of 3 Squadron, ferried up from Harewood and Taieri at about the same time. Again the sharpness of the film is noticeable. Also a nice view of an RNZAF truck (MT 206) in action - can anybody identify the make? Presume British. Also the ATC cadets (without uniforms at this early date) were all wearing a type of lapel "Wings" badge.
The "Telegraph Girl" clip is also noteworthy - I always imagined that these girls (and the displaced 'boys' mentioned) would have been equipped with bicycles, but apparently not! They had to walk everywhere, which I guess is why they mentioned "stout shoes' being neccessary. However you cannot help but notice two bicycles parked just outside the door of the office, complete with a parcel basket! You would think that issuing these girls with bicycles would have improved their productivity immeasurably. A view of the Lamson tube in action too - now I can remember them from my very young days in the 1950s, also used by the large department stores.
David D
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Post by Dave Homewood on Oct 3, 2014 13:51:03 GMT 12
Wow, how did I miss seeing that film before, thanks so much for bringing it back to attention David. Those shots of the Vildebeest IV's are GREAT!!! So rare to see anything on them and actually seeing them in motion picture is a real treat. They were such great looking aircraft.
Great to see the three-ship of Hudsons and the Tiger Moth in close airspace too.
Base Headquarters at Wigram used the Lansom Tube vacuum message system still in the 1990's, on several occasions when I worked in the Fabric Bay I replaced the felt seal on the tubes as they wore down with time. I wonder if any businesses or buildings in NZ now still use them.
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Post by shorty on Oct 3, 2014 19:04:30 GMT 12
A Lamson tube system is in use in Dunedin Hospital and is used for transporting bio samples to and from labs, wards etc.
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Post by sqwark2k on Nov 17, 2015 11:20:24 GMT 12
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Post by horicle on Apr 19, 2016 16:26:26 GMT 12
For the record: The ATC glider at Ohakea in the early 70's would be Slingsby T-53 ZK-GFW which was allocated to the ATC Central District. I flew it at OH from 25th April 69 (it had been operational for a few months then) until the 1st Aug 1971. It was written off after a stall/spin on final turn during August or September. It had the ATC stylised roundal on the fuselage sides with (I think) a blue cheat line.
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Post by rone on Apr 25, 2016 14:29:19 GMT 12
While I was in 3Squadron ATC up to 1956, I recall glider training was available for cadets at Whenuapai. I never took part but clearly remember the flights were done on weekends.
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Post by planewriting on Apr 27, 2016 12:07:22 GMT 12
This is my first post on the forum so here goes! The Rhonlerche glider at Wigram is ZK-GBQ and not ZK-GBO, which is stored at Norfolk Road, Inglewood.
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Post by madmax on May 1, 2016 0:29:34 GMT 12
During the mid 1970s the Hastings ATC sqd had a Mead primary glider of pre-war design. I recall them attempting to fly it on at least one occasion but do not remember if it became airborne or not. I think it was registered ZK-GHE but cannot be certain about that
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Post by planewriting on May 1, 2016 9:19:21 GMT 12
You are correct that the Hastings Mead Primary (painted orange) was ZK-GHE though it was not registered to them. Alf Crowe of Feilding registered it on 18 December 1972. I only saw the Mead at Paraparaumu (hangared only) after 1983. On 29 January 1992 its registration was cancelled having been vandalised at Paraparaumu.
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Post by madmax on May 1, 2016 12:20:05 GMT 12
Ah, so that's what happened to it. Shortly after I saw it at Bridge Pa it was purchased by Kip Netherclift who soon afterwards traded it with Colin Feldwick, who lived in Wellington, for Aeronca 100 VQ-FAJ
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