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Post by Dave Homewood on Dec 2, 2007 14:07:47 GMT 12
This is a great piece of real war footage
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Post by flyjoe180 on Dec 2, 2007 15:44:24 GMT 12
That's from the original wartime documentary Memphis Belle.
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Post by phil82 on Dec 2, 2007 15:45:01 GMT 12
This is a great piece of real war footage That scene is, I'm fairly certain, is from the excellent training film "12' o 'Clock High" which was about command and control, and was still being shown in Staff Colleges right up until the 70s. It was made in 1944 I believe. There was a very similar scene, in fact it might have been the same one colour enhanced, in the film "The War Lover" starring Steve McQueen. |
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Post by flyjoe180 on Dec 2, 2007 15:50:23 GMT 12
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Post by phil82 on Dec 2, 2007 15:55:51 GMT 12
I have in my possession, a "Memphis Belle" sweatshirt, never worn, free to a good home!  |
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Post by Dave Homewood on Dec 3, 2007 10:37:44 GMT 12
Joe, I'll have to watch it again to check but I do not think that the clip I posted comes from The Memphis Belle (1944).
The poster of the clip states it's from The Doc Furniss War.
This clip is a lot more amateur than the slick professional filmmakers hand of The Memphis Belle - note it's a handheld camera rather than tripod, etc.
Colin, I assume the '12 O'Clock High' you refer to as a training film is not the same one as the feature film?
The scene in The War Lover of the B-17 belly landing was done especially for the film, it's not wartime footage. They wrote off a B-17 on purpose, and it was flown for the film by John Crewsdon. Just like as in the 1949 film 12 O'Clock High, in which the B-17 crash landing was flown by film stunt flyer Paul Mantz.
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Post by Dave Homewood on Dec 3, 2007 10:47:32 GMT 12
The 1990's film was not accurate by any means. Nor was the 1944 version. It was a compilation of loads of different missions by different bombers, and the Memphis Belle was NOT the first USAAF aircraft and crew to complete 25 missions. Plus a lot of footage was lost so they reshot it in the USA. Incidentally a couple of the camera crew were killed in the making of the film. It's a great documentary but not accurate in terms of the story it purported to tell of the last mission of The Memphis Belle. Another great wartime documentary - also in colour and about USAAF bombers - is Clark Gable's documentary 'Combat America' www.imdb.com/title/tt0035745/See here www.youtube.com/results?search_query=combat+americaAnd regarding The War Lover with Steve McQueen and Robert Wagner see here |
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Post by flyjoe180 on Dec 3, 2007 19:24:35 GMT 12
Yes you are right Dave, that footage is not on the Memphis Belle documentary from 1944. Apologies there. Very interesting those videos you posted. I can't belive they wrote a B17 off for a film!
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