100 years ago Titanic set sail never to return

[Luther Moore]

We all know the story.


I have always loved the story of the Titanic and this is one of my favourite stories to do with the Titanic-

Violet Constance Jessop (October 2, 1887 ¨C May 5, 1971) was an ocean liner stewardess and nurse who achieved fame by surviving the disastrous sinkings of sister ships RMS Titanic and HMHS Britannic in 1912 and 1916 respectively. In addition, she had been on board Titanic and Britannic¡äs other sister ship, RMS Olympic, when it collided with the protected cruiser HMS Hawke in 1911.

[corsair67]

Wow, did this really happen nearly 100 years ago; I can't believe this image is that old?:

[Luther Moore]

Yes, Kate Winslet will be 117 this year.

[corsair67]

Plastic surgery is a wonderful thing!

[Luther Moore]

Not always.

[gunny]

Over here, we have had shows about rebuilding certain parts of the titanic and there is another one where decendants travel the route I mean sheesh enough of this sheet i was a keen fan of Dr Robert Ballard and have all of his books but talk about milking it!!
Makes me sick Britanic and Olympic were sister ships and all lost, but they say titanic was the largest of her time and STILL say she was unsinkable when this was an obersvation from a reporter before she left Glasgow and was never stated by the shipwrights or white star.
The most interesting story is the lady that was on 2 out of 3 ships when they sank (Olympic did not sink at this time but she was aboard) and survived all 3 times!!

[gunny]

Apr 9, 2012 19:37:06 GMT 12 Luther Moore said:

We all know the story.


I have always loved the story of the Titanic and this is one of my favourite stories to do with the Titanic,

Violet Constance Jessop (October 2, 1887 ¨C May 5, 1971) was an ocean liner stewardess and nurse who achieved fame by surviving the disastrous sinkings of sister ships RMS Titanic and HMHS Britannic in 1912 and 1916 respectively. In addition, she had been on board Titanic and Britannic¡äs other sister ship, RMS Olympic, when it collided with the protected cruiser HMS Hawke in 1911.

OOPS my bad i just re-read the thread properly, so sorry good to see someone else reads but shessh you should see the aussie t.v guides for this week, Americanized fantasy of what happened to immigrants (forget them) and a few rich seppo's, Oh and Molly Brown

[Luther Moore]

I know the show you are talking about, it's called ''rebuilding the Titanic''. I think what they do in the show is a great idea. They rebuild parts of the ship the same way they did back like they would of 100 years ago. It's great to see how hard and how dangerous it was to build her. Also they then dedicate in memory.
That cruise is full of family members and people interested in the story of the Titanic, I would be on it if I had the money.
You can imagine how they got the impression she was unsinkable,she had state of the art technology for her day and I might add, quite impressive.I think the ''unsinkable'' title makes it even more interesting of a story.

Her name was Violet Constance Jessop. I would be going on any ship she was on!
Unsinkable Molly Brown was a hero in my books!

PS I'm in Australia

[Luther Moore]

Also to correct what the media is saying she set sail on the 10th not the 9th.

There are alot of hidden little facts about the Titanic sinking that are really interesting.

I have great respect for the crew who stayed at their post until the end.

[errolmartyn]

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[Luther Moore]

I dont quite get it? Something to do with the Polar bear worried about the iceberg?

[nuuumannn]

The Olympic wasn't sunk; it was the only one of the trio to survive to be scrapped post WW1; 1935, I think. There's a neat little hotel in the Northumberland village of Alnwick (pronounced "Annick"), famous for the castle that doubled as Hogwarts in the Harried Spotter movies, called the White Swan Hotel. Inside the hotel is The Olympic Room as its main dining hall, so named because it is adorned with the wood panelling from the First Class dining saloon from that ship. It was identical to the same in the Titanic.

The First Class Dining Saloon of the Royal Mail Steamer Olympic.





The light fittings are from the ship, as well as the fireplace in the first image.





The bannisters and iron decorative panels are also from the ship.



A description of the origins of the Olympic Room. In the small picture of crew members, the guy standing at right is Captain E.J. Smith, who went down aboard the Titanic.

[Luther Moore]

Yes she never sunk.

I have seen a show on this hotel, thanks for posting the photos. I can't believe all the wood work was hand crafted! Did you know the company who made the Titanic,Olympic and Britanic's carpet also made the carpet or the movie? They went out of business a couple of years ago.

All the men in the photo are Titanic's crew.

[nuuumannn]

Great choice of thread Luther; I didn't know that about the carpet company, interesting. I think the photo of the ship at the bottom is also the Titanic.

[Dave Homewood]

I recall in one of those behind the scenes things when the film was being made they said that all the crockery was made for the film by the same original company too, to the same specs. James Cameron went all out to get the sets right. It's a pity they didn't get all the historic facts right, and also this film ruined de Caprio's career.

[errolmartyn]

The MS Balmoral is on track replicating the journey of the Titanic.

Anyone checking to see if there's also an iceberg en route to the site of the collision 100 years ago?!

Errol

[Luther Moore]

He did put alot effort in it didn't he. I guess it's a famous story that people would judge on how accurate it is and you dont want to put the wrong story in millions of minds around the world. I know they got the degree of the ship tilting when it rose up wrong and also it split infront of the third bioler not behind it.


Here are some more interesting facts-

In 1898 (14 years prior to the Titanic tragedy), Morgan Robertson wrote a novel called Futility. This fictitious novel was about the largest ship ever built hitting an iceberg in the Atlantic ocean on a cold April night. The fictional ship (named Titan) and the real ship Titanic were similar in design and their circumstances were remarkably alike. Both ships were labeled "unsinkable".


RMS stands for Royal Mail Steamer. RMS, in formal terms, means "Royal Merchant Ship". However, the dual meaning was also "Royal Mail Steamer", because the Titanic carried mail under the auspices of His Majesty's postal authorities. At that time, all ships, military and civilian, that were under the British flag carried the distinction of "R.M.S." This, in effect, gave the ship the protection of the British Crown. An attack on an R.M.S. was considered an attack on the crown and an act of war.

Two dogs were among the Titanic survivors.

There were no cats on the Titanic. Cats were often brought on ships as a form of good luck. They also controlled rodents.

The Titanic is about as long as the Empire State building is tall.

The Tower Bridge, located in London England, is approximately the same length and height as the Titanic.

Originally, the Titanic's design only included 3 funnels (smokestacks). The aftmost funnel (towards stern) was added to make the Titanic look more impressive-it gave the feeling of "power and grace". It only functioned as an air vent.



No one ever claimed that the Titanic was "unsinkable". The quote, "practically unsinkable" was taken out of context. In 1911, Shipbuilder magazine published an article describing the construction of the Titanic. The article stated that when the watertight doors were closed, the ship would be "practically unsinkable".


It was customary to break a bottle of champagne on the bow of a boat when launched. The Titanic launching did not include the traditional bottle-breaking.

Many of the passengers were not originally suppose to be traveling on the Titanic. Due to a strike, coal was in short supply. This shortage threatened Titanic's maiden voyage and forced the White Star Line to cancel travel on the Oceanic and Adriatic and transfer their passengers and coal stocks to the Titanic.

There were 13 couples on board celebrating their Honeymoons.

Captain Smith was planning to retire after Titanic's maiden voyage.

The Titanic had 4 elevators (3 in First class and 1 in Second class).

At the time, Titanic's whistles were the largest ever made.

Titanic's whistles could be heard from a distance of 11 miles.

The Titanic carried 900 tons of baggage and freight.

The Titanic used 14,000 gallons of drinking water every 24 hours.

Coal consumption per day: 825 tons.

Carried 20 lifeboats and 3560 life jackets. The life jackets were made of canvas and cork.

More than 3 million rivets were used to build the Titanic.

In a test done to determine stopping distance, the Titanic was accelerated to 20 knots and then the engines were reversed at full power. The distance required to stop the Titanic was about half a mile.

The Titanic's radio call sign was: MGY.

Port of Registry - Liverpool, England. Registry date: March 24, 1912.

Official ship number: 131,428

The number 3909 04 was NOT assigned to the Titanic as a hull number.



The lookouts in the crow's nest did not have binoculars. Having binoculars might have prevented the Titanic tragedy.


The time interval from first sighting of the iceberg to impact was a little over 30 seconds.

The Titanic sank 2 hours and 40 minutes after hitting the iceberg.

It probably took Titanic about 15 minutes to sink to her final resting place on the ocean floor. That means that Titanic sank at a rate of 10 miles per hour (or 16 km per hour).

The Titanic hit the iceberg on the starboard (right) side of the bow. It has been speculated that the Titanic may have suffered only minor damage and minimal loss of life had it hit the iceberg head-on. It has also been suggested that the Titanic may have completely avoided colliding with the iceberg had the bridge not requested that the engines be reversed ("Full Astern"), prior to steering the ship to the left ("Hard-a-starboard"). This action would have decreased the forward momentum of the Titanic causing it to turn at a slower rate.

July and August are the only two months the weather permits expeditions to the Titanic wreck site

[Luther Moore]

I think the last line will answer your question Errol.

[nuuumannn]

Here's another little fact about the ship. Above the mantlepiece in the First Class smoking room was a painting by maritime artist Norman Wilkinson who was also responsible for coming up with the idea for dazzle camouflage for Royal Navy vessels during WW1.

[Luther Moore]

That is one I didn't know. Norman seems to have a lot to do with sinking ships.