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Post by Luther Moore on Dec 8, 2012 9:37:15 GMT 12
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Post by Dave Homewood on Dec 8, 2012 11:55:35 GMT 12
Oh no, that is awful. I hope that the radio "personalities" have been fired.
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Post by ngatimozart on Dec 8, 2012 15:40:12 GMT 12
Apparently they've been taken off air.
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Post by steveh on Dec 8, 2012 18:51:49 GMT 12
I think that is just one of the saddest things I've heard in a long while. I must say when I saw it was Fox news I hoped they'd made one of their not infrequent gaffes but a bit of googling confirmed it as true. I've always hated prank calls, sorry, I think the idea of having a laugh at the expense of someone else like this is seriously unfunny, this latest obviously more so. They (the witless moronic radio "personalties") prey on real people to inflate their ratings with their witless moronic audiences. Although there may turn out to be something unforseen in this poor womens death, I was uneasy at the time of this "prank" & am repulsed & disgusted now.
Streve.
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Post by kiwithrottlejockey on Dec 8, 2012 21:42:17 GMT 12
I wouldn't just blame the radio jocks.
They would have done that with the backing of their producer and the company they worked for.
It is highly likely that one of the personel behind the scenes thought up the prank and the jocks were merely doing what they were told.
That is how things tend to work in the radio industry.
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Post by steveh on Dec 8, 2012 23:26:09 GMT 12
Fair comment, so I guess I should edit my post to include also the witless moronic production team as well. Nah, I'll do another one here.  I can understand your point to an extent & I guess if they refused to go through with it maybe there'd be jobs on the line,though I tend to feel that you probably don't end up in that business unless thats your thing so I'm happy to share "repulsed & disgusted" with the whole crew from station boss on down. One of the google links I looked up quoted the station boss as saying he was sure they'd broken no laws & it had been vetted before going to air. In which case I would question strongly the basic morality of this man & his crew if they could not see that this could have serious ramifications for the hospital & its staff & yet they still let it go to air. Had it been a live feed with little chance to second guess the situation I could have been marginally more sympathetic. Link to article. www.theaustralian.com.au/business/companies/nurse-dead-after-2day-fm-prank-call/story-fn91v9q3-1226532640670Steve. |
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Post by Luther Moore on Dec 9, 2012 0:09:38 GMT 12
I think looking at it now it was a huge mistake but keep in mind it was just a prank and no one thought that would happen.They made a bad call and someone lost their life over it,they have to live their life knowing that.If the hounding of these two radio hosts keeps going we might see another suicide.I'm sure they didn't pull the prank to make someone do that to themselves.We all make mistakes.
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Post by mumbles on Dec 9, 2012 9:06:37 GMT 12
I wouldn't just blame the radio jocks. They would have done that with the backing of their producer and the company they worked for. It is highly likely that one of the personel behind the scenes thought up the prank and the jocks were merely doing what they were told. That is how things tend to work in the radio industry. According to this piece one of the DJs came up with the idea. www.smh.com.au/entertainment/tv-and-radio/prank-call-played-for-hours-after-death-20121208-2b1y1.htmlSo really, what kind of person thinks prank calling a hospital is funny or a good idea? While I've got no true ill will toward the station or DJs, I've got no sympathy either. They knew what they were doing was dodgy, they tried it anyway, and stuck with it when they had a chance to do the right thing and come clean. All for ratings and notoriety, and with no concern for anyone on the other end. |
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Post by lumpy on Dec 9, 2012 10:20:37 GMT 12
There is no way that a person taking their own life could have been a forseeable outcome from making a phone call like that . It didnt sound like the DJ's even seriously expected to be put through ( and perhaps the fact that they were has exposed some security weaknesses ) .I do have some sympathy ( but not much ) for those involved , sure it was stupid , but they could never have predicted this tragic outcome .
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Post by sparrow on Dec 9, 2012 11:16:48 GMT 12
I don't feel that an aviation forum is a place to discuss something like this, however it is in the general section, and it is being discussed, so I'm going to add my tuppence worth.
This was a prank, a joke, the like of which has been done many thousands of times the world over, and we've all had a bit of a giggle at them. No-one could have foreseen such a very tragic outcome. However, in my opinion, no-one of sane mind would take their life simply because they transferred a phone call which turned out to be a prank. There had to be other issues, maybe ongoing, but who knows. But that is just my speculation, and speculation is all we so far have to go on. As much as I have sympathy for the family of the deceased, I could not hold any bad will towards the radio station or it's employees. The amount of shite that is being spouted around the world over this is unbelievable, too many people getting on their moral high horses.
Well, there it is, my opinion, for which I will probably be slated, but thanks to our forefathers, I'm entitled to it.
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Post by shorty on Dec 9, 2012 11:55:53 GMT 12
I thought a prank was suposed to be funny but even when it was first aired (before the ensuing ramifiacations) I failed to see anything remotely humourous about it!
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Post by corsair5517 on Dec 9, 2012 22:28:21 GMT 12
Yes, we do but surely we should also stand up and take responsibility for those mistakes? These shock jocks are hiding behind corporate skirts which is reprehensible.... |
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Post by craig on Dec 10, 2012 6:13:22 GMT 12
I am sure we all have, at some point, done something (in retrospect stupid) which has backfired or been taken in the wrong vein. Their actions were stupid and unnecessary no doubt. But what about personal responsibility. The nurse has acted in a totally irrational and unpredictable manner. Her actions will weigh heavy on a lot of peoples conscience for the rest of their lives.
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Post by Dave Homewood on Dec 10, 2012 7:20:52 GMT 12
Has anyone stopped to think that rather than the prank itself it was more likely the massive media frenzy and pressure that it caused that has pushed this woman over the edge. No doubt the journos hounded her and followed her, etc, as they always do in the UK.
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Post by steveh on Dec 10, 2012 7:32:41 GMT 12
I'm sure you're probably right Dave, but taking into account the subject of this prank, this was fairly predictable, especially given it was reviewed before going to air, which to me makes it all the more reprehensible. Publicity with no thought to the consequences or effect on others, even supposing the poor women hadn't committed suicide, it was going to be unpleasant for her & any others involved. Is that what a "prank" should be about. I don't think so.
Steve.
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Post by kiwiduster on Dec 10, 2012 7:33:12 GMT 12
A smartass prank playing to the lowest common denominator has backfired bigtime on the perpertraitors. They and their superiors were looking for attention and notoriety. Now they have it in bucket loads the best they can do is hide or make excuses. ( Lack of moral fibre??!!). This "Prank" will end up a classic case of Human Factors and hopefully a lesson for us all..(Just my opinion)
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Post by phil82 on Dec 10, 2012 8:36:04 GMT 12
There are a number of issues arising from this ill-conceived hoax, not the least of which is the total hypocrisy of the British media and it's false outrage at a time when it has been the subject of a very expensive public inquiry into blatant intrusion into private lives through the hacking of private conversations on cell-phones.
The two morons who initiated, aided and abetted by even more moronic lawyers, couldn't possibly have known the consequence of their action, but then thinking about anything is probably not their strong point.
The hoax itself was crass beyond belief, but had any of us received that phone call we would probably have guessed what it was from the appalling bad accents and the giggling, dogs barking etc: but the poor woman who answered the phone was from India, and English wasn't her first language, so to her it would have been impossible to detect the nuance of accent which might have indicated a warning.
If those two dickheads ever get back on air it will be too soon!
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Post by Luther Moore on Dec 10, 2012 15:43:47 GMT 12
I am sure we all have, at some point, done something (in retrospect stupid) which has backfired or been taken in the wrong vein. Their actions were stupid and unnecessary no doubt. But what about personal responsibility. The nurse has acted in a totally irrational and unpredictable manner. Her actions will weigh heavy on a lot of peoples conscience for the rest of their lives. Agree. I don't see how anyone could of imagined this would be the outcome of this prank.90% of people who think these two are in the wrong have pulled a stupid prank in their lifetime,I bet they they never thought about the person they pranked killing themselves? I blame the media and the Hospital for blowing this out of proportion.All she did was connect a phone call but was made to think the world zeroed in on her.Shows what the media can do. I still can't believe she did that over a phone call. |
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Post by steveh on Dec 10, 2012 16:37:26 GMT 12
Luther, I think you're completely missing the point. I absolutely agree that no-one could have foreseen this women committing suicide as a specific outcome of this prank. But, anyone with the brains of a budgie should have been able to guess that "hells bells, this could get someone in serious shit" given the establishment it was made to & the subject it was made about. As one of our Sunday papers said, if there was a grown up in the room when this was vetted it would never have gone to air. The tragic demise of this women is an unfortunate side effect. It does take a genius to work out there were going to be side effects, probably serious for someone completely innocent & uninvolved. The staff & the institution for starters. There were.
Steve.
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Post by steveh on Dec 10, 2012 16:44:28 GMT 12
I still can't believe she did that over a phone call. Should've made comment to this & that is, I don't believe it was just about the phone call at all, it is very likely she sadly had issues of other kinds too but this was enough to tip her. Bear in mind too her ethnic origin & perhaps this sort of thing may have loomed far larger on her mind than it may have on ours. WHo knows, or knew or cared? Steve. |
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