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Post by Peter Lewis on Sept 14, 2013 21:59:38 GMT 12
As was commented on the radio the other day, these boats owe more to aviation design and motor racing design than to maritime design.
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Post by Peter Lewis on Sept 14, 2013 22:11:05 GMT 12
I can't get over the position we have found ourselves in with General Aviation. It is a dead industry and there are no signs of hope. No poblem there baron. Give it just a few more years and all the eight-foot high security fences and the 'danger keep out' signs can come down as CAA and OSH will have attained their goal - the complete abolition of GA. See rnzaf.proboards.com/thread/15098/vector-article-on-aviation-security
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Post by ngatimozart on Sept 14, 2013 22:34:43 GMT 12
As was commented on the radio the other day, these boats owe more to aviation design and motor racing design than to maritime design. Well the physics are basically the same, it's just the make up and density of the medium that is different.
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Post by phil82 on Sept 14, 2013 23:36:32 GMT 12
Hmmm...well.....yeah, I suppose there is some truth in all of the comments here.I can't say that I'm a fan of the America's Cup,largely due to the time spent on lawyers has detracted from the main event,and guys like Ellison have added nothing to the mix other than to make it so expensive many traditional sailing nations haven't turned up.It hasn't escaped my notice that traditional competitors like Australia and England have given up, and we wouldn't be there either but for tax-payers.So my reasons for wanting NZ to win are entirely perverse: I feel good at little old NZ giving a billionaire who thought he could secure the cup forever by changing the rules a good old thrashing.
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Post by baronbeeza on Sept 15, 2013 8:50:53 GMT 12
Well there we are, - a little Kiwi excitement added to the mix.
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Post by weheka on Sept 15, 2013 9:14:09 GMT 12
Bloody hell!!! Campaign almost over for Team NZ, how could this racing not be exciting? C'mon Team NZ!
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Post by kiwithrottlejockey on Sept 15, 2013 10:00:44 GMT 12
As was commented on the radio the other day, these boats owe more to aviation design and motor racing design than to maritime design. Well.....considering that the help of boat-builders was instrumental in constructing the moulds for the Mosquito rebuild projects, perhaps one could claim that aviation owes a lot to boat-building?
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Post by Dave Homewood on Sept 15, 2013 11:17:39 GMT 12
At last some action in the racing... about time...
Jeez that Peter Lester guy gets on my wick
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Post by baz62 on Sept 15, 2013 11:52:09 GMT 12
Jeez that Peter Lester guy gets on my wick Well said! Just as well he's not doing your podcasts Dave!!
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Post by Dave Homewood on Sept 15, 2013 12:08:54 GMT 12
I hate the sound of my voice too, but I'm not being paid megabucks to do it, and I try my best not to talk over the other person, shout into the mic, and crap on and on like Lester does. They should drop him and bring back John McBeth.
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Post by machpants on Sept 15, 2013 12:10:20 GMT 12
Close one there on the first race! A big pity the 2nd was canned we'd got that one I think.
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Post by corsairarm on Sept 15, 2013 12:25:16 GMT 12
Don't know if any of the rest of you had a slight heart attack. Mine certainly missed a beat. Lucky I had my pills this morning Covered the spectrum, Blood pressure, Cholesterol,etc. No happy ones though as I already am.
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Post by corsair67 on Sept 15, 2013 13:44:04 GMT 12
Good to see all those New Zealand companies holding the major sponsor positions on the boat....... But then again, maybe there is good reason for that - especially after initial media reports from 2012 that Team New Zealand was allegedly not following correct reporting and documentation procedures on how they were spending the NZ$39 million that was put up by the NZ Government for this attempt at the cup..... Anyway, good luck to Team New Zealand - and good luck to the NZ taxpayers who will end up carrying the can for the cost of holding this thing in Auckland if Team New Zealand take the cup again. More money will be spent for short term gain and putting more public money into already wealthy people's pockets - whilst major infrastructure projects that would really benefit the nation will no doubt be put aside due to a lack of funding. I wonder how many hospital beds NZ$39 million would cover....... Cynical, moi?
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Post by TS on Sept 15, 2013 13:51:36 GMT 12
Don't know if any of the rest of you had a slight heart attack. Mine certainly missed a beat. Lucky I had my pills this morning Covered the spectrum, Blood pressure, Cholesterol,etc. No happy ones though as I already am. You are not kidding!!!! They were within a nats whisker of going over SOOOOOOOO Bloody close it was not funny but not boring eh......
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Post by kiwithrottlejockey on Sept 15, 2013 14:02:11 GMT 12
Don't know if any of the rest of you had a slight heart attack. Mine certainly missed a beat. Lucky I had my pills this morning Covered the spectrum, Blood pressure, Cholesterol,etc. No happy ones though as I already am. Didn't see a thing and was totally unaware of what was going on. I was driving a train at the time and was probably inside a 9km-long tunnel (with no radio reception from the outside) when it all occurred. I did however pull my laptop out of my work bag and go online to check out what had been happening while parked up at Waterloo railway station in the Hutt Valley waiting for our passengers to be transported out from Wellington by bus (the line is closed between Woburn and Wellington all weekend due to major track, bridges and signals work). I even posted at this group while I was at it.
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Post by kiwithrottlejockey on Sept 15, 2013 14:04:27 GMT 12
Anyway, good luck to Team New Zealand - and good luck to the NZ taxpayers who will end up carrying the can for the cost of holding this thing in Auckland if Team New Zealand take the cup again. More money will be spent for short term gain and putting more public money into already wealthy people's pockets - whilst major infrastructure projects that would really benefit the nation will no doubt be put aside due to a lack of funding. I wonder how many hospital beds NZ$39 million would cover....... Cynical, moi? Don't forget all the corporate welfare (at our expense) dished out to Warner Bros, SkyCity, Rio Tinto, and others.
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Post by weheka on Sept 15, 2013 14:15:50 GMT 12
Don't forget all the general welfare dished out to the stay at home, sit on your a*&se do nothings that seem to infest the country. To say nothing of the financial wastage that goes on at local body level, i.e. Christchurch City Council and their ridiculous policy of rewarding people with obscene amounts of money, who completely fail to do their jobs.
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Post by Dave Homewood on Sept 15, 2013 20:38:35 GMT 12
When is the next race? Is it Tuesday?
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Post by weheka on Sept 15, 2013 20:42:26 GMT 12
Two races scheduled tomorrow, hope we win at least one of them, two would be great, none would be a worry.
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Post by Peter Lewis on Sept 15, 2013 21:35:59 GMT 12
We picked this morning as our morning to settle in and watch both races live. Looks like we made the right choice, judging from the excitement level. ' ' 'the cost of holding this thing in Auckland if Team New Zealand take the cup again. It interests me that there seems to be this implict assumption that, if the next contest is held in NZ, it will be held in Auckland. One of NZ's major problems is the population drift from the regions to Auckland and the consequential depopulation and economic stagnation of many other parts of the country. As a result, Auckland is suffering from housing shortages and traffic delays. Therefore would it not make social and economic sense to hold the contest at some regional city rather than in Auckland? Given the economic impact of both the infrastucture build and the expected visitor numbers, surely a city like Gisborne or Whangarei would experience a rapid and substantial revitalization if this contest was held in their waters. This could be achieved by making any Government funding of the event conditional on a regional location.
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