What RNZAF plane do you want on the airshow scene?

[Dave Homewood]

Perhaps you mean OLD oil? All that was said on the previous page Colin, way back in March 2005 just after the forum began...

[komata]

Dave

Thanks for the update,but please don't keep us in suspense; who was the fortunate individual who walked through a 'Vildee's prop while it was spinning - and survived?

re; The 'Zapping' of visiting Vulcan's.

I believe that the one that visited NZ in 1973 or 1974 and did a 'touch and go' at the Hamilton Airport airshow (1974?), 'acquired' a 'Kiwi' before it left New Zealand, wearing it until it got to Changi where the FEAF administration (lacking a sense of humour and no doubt muttering nasty things about 'colonials') ordered it removed; 'Not done sir, not done, might contaminate something...'  Photo's were taken at the time. so perhaps someone can post them here...?

[kiwithrottlejockey]

See the following webpage at the Vulcan People website....

• www.avrovulcan.org.uk/vulcan_people/562_kiwi.htm



Also this webpage....

• topbirdsandeveryfing.typepad.com/top-birds-everyfing/2010/12/rnzaf-avro-vulcan-bomber-at-rnzaf-wigram-believe-it-or-not-the-royal-new-zealand-air-force-operated-one-avro-vulcan-bomber.html


Plus, an interesting photograph HERE

[Dave Homewood]

Dec 1, 2013 15:06:19 GMT 12 komata said:

Dave

Thanks for the update,but please don't keep us in suspense; who was the fortunate individual who walked through a 'Vildee's prop while it was spinning - and survived?

His name was Colin Wyverne "Shorty" Brown, and he was an Armourer with No. 8 (GR) Squadron.

[Damon]

I'll put my hand up for a SBD Dauntless.(Yes Please!)

[kiwithrottlejockey]

I would put my hand up for both a SBD Dauntless and a Lockheed Hudson.

They would look great in the hangar at Hood Aerodrome alongside the ex-RNZAF aeroplanes currently residing there, the P-40 and FG-1D.

[baronbeeza]

The various websites seem to have a range of dates for that Vulcan visit to NZ in the early 1970's. I know for sure I saw one flying about in Feb/March 1973.
Not 1974 and not 1972 but there may have been other summer visits in those years as well.

[komata]

As I don't remember it myself (despite being there at the time), if someone can tell us the exact date of the Hamilton Air Show for 1973, this could possibly help. Thanks.

[planecrazy]

Not that I live in New Zealand but would love to see a clear canopied Corsair in RNZAF Markings again.

[suthg]

Me - I'd love to see a Typhoon or Tempest flying with the Napier Sabre engine, but a Hawker Sea Fury with the big Bristol Centaurus engine running would be ok again! There is a Tempest V being prepared for flying in Florida by Kermit Weeks. He has a viable engine... so never likely in NZ but it would be great in the US and even better if it had Kiwi markings on it!!

[delticman]

Vulcan visit to Hamilton. It was at the RNZAC which was rained out on the Saturday, so was held on Sunday 5th March 1972. The aircraft was Vulcan B2 XH562 of 9 Suadron. I cant remember it being at the practice day on the Friday but I think it did a couple of approaches a few days before but on the day of the show, it do a touch and go.

[tfly]

Squadron of Skyhawks for me!

[baronbeeza]

Which is this aircraft..
www.avrovulcan.org.uk/vulcan_people/562_kiwi.htm

So what did I see in early 1973 in the skies above Westport ?

I can remember the hours from 7am to midday very clearly and it would have been about 10.30am and I am thinking it was a Tuesday morning. I would think it was about 20th February.

EDIT.... still searching but did come across this.



I remember being at Milford Sound, NZ, in the early 70's when a Vulcan came down the canyon for a low pass then flew down the sound out to sea, a few minutes later he was back going quite quick, pulled up over the hotel for a quick circuit of Mt Tutoko for another pass, this time much lower, much, much faster and disappeared in a cloud of kerosene smoke and stink that took hours to dissapate, the sound eventually died away too!

www.pprune.org/archive/index.php/t-465562.html

The Vulcan overhead Westport that day was low level, possibly 1500 to 2000'.


Here we go....

From Diann Jones, Wife of Kevin Jones of Karamea. I imagine Kevin was on 75 Squadron at the time. Coincidently I rode an old AJS 500 single motorcycle from Karamea to Westport on the morning of the flyover. My hands had just stopped 'tingling' after my 9am arrival which is why I think I could place the time as mid -morning.

Diann Jones... Kevin doesn't recall a Vulcan visit in 1971 but looking at his Log Book the HMS Eagle & her aircraft visited in Aug that year. He escorted a Vulcan into Ohakea on 23/2/1973 (there were 4 Vulcans arrived around then) & took Flt Lt Brazier (an AEO) for a Sth Island scenic on 1 March. Three Vulcans left a few days later, the last was delayed because of unserviceability & when it left (I was watching in the Tower), it went between the Control Tower & 3 (75 Sqn hangar). He doesn't recall a Skyhawk following so it may have been a different day! Also that looks to be a different side of the Tower & the Vulcan isn't low enough!! He doesn't remember any visits after that one.
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www.facebook.com/AirForceMuseumofNewZealand?filter=1

www.flightglobal.com/pdfarchive/view/1973/1973%20-%200545.html

[Deleted]

I'd have to say a Skyhawk for sure!! They're my favoutite plane of all time! Would put in a thrilling display I reckon!

[htbrst]

Dec 1, 2013 20:44:05 GMT 12 suthg said:

Me - I'd love to see a Typhoon or Tempest flying with the Napier Sabre engine, but a Hawker Sea Fury with the big Bristol Centaurus engine running would be ok again! There is a Tempest V being prepared for flying in Florida by Kermit Weeks. He has a viable engine... so never likely in NZ but it would be great in the US and even better if it had Kiwi markings on it!!

While not flying, it looks like the Hawker Typhoon currently in the RAF Museum (the only one left in the world) is looking like its going to go on sabbatical to Canada soon.

Since it's on the move anyway, it would be nice if it take the long road home and call in here too

[nuuumannn]

I remember being at Milford Sound, NZ, in the early 70's when a Vulcan came down the canyon for a low pass then flew down the sound out to sea, a few minutes later he was back going quite quick, pulled up over the hotel for a quick circuit of Mt Tutoko for another pass, this time much lower, much, much faster and disappeared in a cloud of kerosene smoke and stink that took hours to dissapate, the sound eventually died away too!

There is a photograph of the Vulcan screaming through Milford Sound that was published in Aeroplane Monthly many years ago now. I'll see if I can dig it out.

There's an interesting little sub-story to the Vulcan coming to New Zealand. Originally the aircraft, XH562, was drawn from IX Sqn and aboard it (allegedly) was an unusual souvenir. As we know, IX Sqn and 617 Sqn were both responsible for sinking the German battleship Tirpitz in Norway and after the war the Norwegians gave the RAF a bulkhead from the ship with a painting of the Tirpitz on it. 617 Sqn had it for a few years, but IX Sqn personnel, indignant at the fact that they had not been recognised as taking part in the sinking removed it from the Dambusters sqn - 617 eventually stole it back, but over the next few years the bulkhead went to and fro between the two squadrons and it is rumoured that it was hidden in the Vulcan by IX Sqn personnel and came all the way to New Zealand!

I don't know for certain whether this is true or not; I got told the story when I worked at Hendon. Here's the bulkhead now, on display at the RAF Museum.

[nuuumannn]

Oh, by the way; anything from the 1930s - Grebe in particular, also it'd be nice to see a Canberra flying again.

[Dave Homewood]

I'd love to see a Baffin flying. And a de Havilland Express.

[kiwithrottlejockey]

Dec 2, 2013 13:51:38 GMT 12 Dave Homewood said:

I'd love to see a Baffin flying. And a de Havilland Express.

The short-sighted buggers cut-up the last DH.86 Express back in the late-1940s.

Just like some short-sighted buggers cut-up the very last Empire flying-boat left in the world in the early-1950s.

[FlyingKiwi]

I'd personally love to see a Brewster Buffalo or a Fairey Gordon.