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Post by skyhawkdon on Feb 23, 2015 20:13:12 GMT 12
It just needs an F-16 in the shot to be complete Dave ;+)
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Post by Dave Homewood on Feb 23, 2015 20:15:20 GMT 12
Old hat, it needs something more modern than an F-16. At least a Super Hornet.
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Post by planecrazy on Feb 23, 2015 21:36:49 GMT 12
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Post by skyhawkfan1 on Feb 24, 2015 9:58:01 GMT 12
In my opinion that should be our future RNZAF right there. Damn straight, plus a few new jet fighters would top it off except for the major cries of foul by the greenies
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Post by frankly on Feb 24, 2015 11:51:25 GMT 12
In my opinion that should be our future RNZAF right there. Th -295 is impressive. It's cheaper to buy and cheaper to operate than a C-27. They'd do good service. But I can't help think that they're still a civilian airliner. I don't see any point in the RNZAF operating commercial types that can be chartered. The Spartan has much better rough and short runway capability. So to be consistent with my earlier comments about owning Boeings, I feel we need to spend the money on capability that isn't available in the civilian charter market.
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Post by beagle on Feb 26, 2015 21:19:53 GMT 12
Plus I am sure will take a standard pallet the right way around and higher. More of a military designed aircraft. Be faster and longer ranging too??
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Post by frankly on Feb 26, 2015 22:20:00 GMT 12
Yep, faster, longer range and cargo handling get compatible with the Herc and Globemaster (which is mundane but important for loggies). The US Coast Guard are busy developing a maritime patrol fitout too.
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Post by beagle on Mar 4, 2015 19:10:48 GMT 12
Under the National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2014, 14 C-27J aircraft are being regenerated from a preserved status at Davis-Monthan Air Force Base in Tucson, Arizona. As delivered, the C-27Js are outfitted with weather radar and communications equipment capable of supporting transport and other Coast Guard missions. Future Coast Guard modifications will enhance the aircraft’s capability to detect, classify and identify maritime targets. Planned components include integrated surface search radar, electro-optical/infrared sensors and a standardized mission system.
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Post by trimotor on Mar 9, 2015 4:43:48 GMT 12
I'd put money on nothing happening. Social welfare budget has priority.
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Post by beagle on Apr 10, 2015 13:38:24 GMT 12
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Post by ZacYates on Apr 10, 2015 14:53:59 GMT 12
Well that settles those airframes' fate!
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Post by beagle on Apr 10, 2015 17:50:45 GMT 12
Still some left for us though.
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Post by 11SQNLDR on Apr 10, 2015 17:54:52 GMT 12
The NZ Govt needs to make a D sooner rather than later I'd suggest. These white tails will be all snapped up at this rate whilst we seem to be procrastinating
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Post by beagle on Apr 10, 2015 18:52:21 GMT 12
mind you, I was sayong just that with lots of others a few months ago and still nothing.
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Post by macnz on Apr 11, 2015 22:48:07 GMT 12
Still some left for us though. "The announcment about two additional aircraft reduces the number of ‘white-tail’ C-17s to FIVE aircraft, says a Boeing spokesman. Two Australia, 1 Canada bringing its fleet to five aircraft, and two ordered by an undisclosed customer in the Middle East."
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Post by conman on Apr 12, 2015 8:45:48 GMT 12
Maybe it was a typo and meant to say an undisclosed customer in Middle Earth !
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Post by thelensofhistory on Apr 15, 2015 15:01:10 GMT 12
Two new Boeing C-17 aircraft will set back the New Zealand Defence Force at least $600 million, the Government has been advised. The Boeing C-17 Globemaster is being considered as a replacement for the aging fleet of Hercules C-130s, some of which are nearly 50 years old. Members of the Foreign Affairs and Defence select committee took one of the Australian Defence Force's C-17s for a test run in February. In a report released last week, the committee said that the cost of two of the C-17s would be "a minimum of $600 million, with an operating cost of $20,000 per hour". It said the C-17s would be a "desirable acquisition" and noted that there were only eight to 10 of the aircraft left for sale. MPs on the committee sought advice on how money could be found to purchase the aircraft and whether it was practical to replace five Hercules with two Globemasters. "We learned that the purchase has been provided for in the Defence Midpoint Rebalancing Review, and the possibility of making the funds available earlier is being considered," the report said. Secretary of Defence Helene Quilter told the committee that any purchase of C-17s might not be a "complete replacement" for the Hercules and the two types of aircraft could possible operate side by side. The Ministry of Defence was analysing information from Boeing on the price and availability of the aircraft, and it was also working with its Australian counterparts to determine whether it would offset some of the C-17's operating costs. Around $50 million of the $300 million price tag was believed to be for operating costs and replacement parts. Defence Minister Gerry Brownlee said last month the C-17 was one of several large military aircraft being considered to assist with the Defence's Force airlift capacity. Mr Brownlee said any decisions about military acquisitions needed to be made carefully. He said the NH90 helicopters purchased by the previous government for $770 million had proven to be a "challenging piece of kit" because they were difficult to transport. The minister made the comments after the NZDF was unable to take the NH90s to Vanuatu after Cyclone Pam because they were not cleared for island-hopping and were vulnerable to sea spray if transported by ship. The NH90s are currently being used in a search and rescue training exercise in Marlborough. Air Force chief Mike Yardley said they were a "highly capable aircraft". "This aircraft is well suited to the wide range of work the Air Force carries out with Police, Civil Defence and the Department of Conservation," he said. Unlike the Hercules, the C-17 had capacity to transport an NH90-sized helicopter. www.nzherald.co.nz/politics/news/article.cfm?c_id=280&objectid=11433122
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Post by chis73 on Apr 15, 2015 16:47:31 GMT 12
Here is a link to the report (the Foreign Affairs, Defence & Trade Select Committee's 2013/14 Annual review of NZDF & MoD). C-17 info on paqe 3. link
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Post by gibbo on Apr 15, 2015 17:09:32 GMT 12
Here is a link to the report (the Foreign Affairs, Defence & Trade Select Committee's 2013/14 Annual review of NZDF & MoD). C-17 info on paqe 3. linkHmmm, makes me cautiously optimistic... although 3 would be the sensible number, I think the reality is there won't be any support for an almost $1B spend for 3. At least the report pretty much states another type will be required to 'work alongside', which I expect would ultimately be a twin-engine type. ....fingers crossed!
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Post by baronbeeza on Apr 15, 2015 17:16:44 GMT 12
And the Herald is an authoritative source for aviation and defence matters. Yeah right. Just wait for a pic of a C177 to accompany the prose.....
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