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Post by shamus on Dec 23, 2012 11:20:44 GMT 12
Dont think it is ships crew. The guy in the uniform could be the captain and he looks asian to me. Can't be certain but the guy the other side of the captain looks like a guy called Chris who was one of the Motat volunteers at the time. Can't remember his surname but I can remember him.
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Post by shamus on Dec 23, 2012 10:54:01 GMT 12
Another of the Pt.Morsby one.
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Post by shamus on Dec 23, 2012 10:44:12 GMT 12
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Post by shamus on Dec 22, 2012 14:59:51 GMT 12
Yes. Now thats the one I remember. Not the first photos. It actually looks better in these photos than it was in reality. Hard to recognise the people in the photo as it is too dark. I can tell you that the guy on the right of the guy in the uniform is Ron Stanaway, later a member of the Confederates.
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Post by shamus on Dec 20, 2012 14:53:04 GMT 12
Thanks, Errol. I wasn't aware of what happened to these two after they left No.3 SFTS.
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Post by shamus on Dec 20, 2012 9:45:36 GMT 12
I am presuming, because of the name that these pilots were maori. They were training in Hawker hinds during the war and involved in accidents. LAC. Frederick Brian PIRANI. LAC. E.M. KARATAU. I am sorry that is all the information I have. These pilots probably went on to fly in combat after this training in the No.3 Service Flying Training School.
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Post by shamus on Dec 18, 2012 19:05:28 GMT 12
This is the diagram of the Baffin airframe. I have marked where the metal frame ends and the wooden longerons begin. The second diagram shows the rear joints that show how the uprights and the cross members join the longerons.
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Post by shamus on Dec 18, 2012 8:34:48 GMT 12
Hi ngatimozart. I have been in touch with Michelle Sim at AFM Wigram and she has been most helpful indeed, as she always is. Unfortunately they have no Baffin Manual but she is arranging the copying of two blueprints of parts of the Baffin for me. I am working on a history of the Baffin with the RNZAF for publication in the Aviation Historical Society of NZ, Journal and need this information as well. We have located the whereabouts of The Manual, thanks to Forum member 'aircraftclocks' and are arranging to get a copy. Anything that you can achieve from BAE would be most welcome. This aircraft is not intended to be flown so they should not have a problem with that. We certainly appreciate any help that we can get with the technical side, so many thanks for your offer.
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Post by shamus on Dec 16, 2012 22:41:32 GMT 12
Hi Richard. The structure of the Baffin is quite different to the Hind. Whereas the Hind has all metal tubing for the airframe, the Baffin has composite wood/metal construction. At the last joint shown in the latest photos the wooden longerons attach and continue for the rest of the airframe. This aircraft occupies a special place in the hierarchy as it is the link between the old wooden frame aeroplanes and the newer all metal ones. The wings also have spruce spars but the cross tubes are metal, again showing the transition. I will scan some diagrams and post them showing the airframe soon.
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Post by shamus on Dec 16, 2012 17:17:08 GMT 12
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Post by shamus on Dec 16, 2012 17:08:38 GMT 12
davem2. Checked PMs and no message from you. Had some trouble with the messages after the Forum meltdown and they did not reappear until the next day. Try again.
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Post by shamus on Dec 16, 2012 14:38:51 GMT 12
Sorry to hear that news Dave, from me and Don & Steven. We wish you a speedy recovery. I know a good anesthetic it comes in a glass and is called single malt W, but I suppose you want to keep away from glass, well you could use a plastic cup.
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Post by shamus on Dec 15, 2012 20:56:58 GMT 12
No Mike. the boost gauge only goes to +4 and also I think the wheels will be Gordon. i;ll pas on your hello to Don.
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Post by shamus on Dec 15, 2012 12:29:20 GMT 12
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Post by shamus on Dec 15, 2012 10:54:33 GMT 12
Mike, I will get some photos up later today of the Hind panel. Your list left out the Reid -Sigrist fore & aft level. If you find any Televel gauges, let me now, (hens teeth). There are several panels to be seen at Dairy Flat. Time you made a visit.
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Post by shamus on Dec 14, 2012 9:55:31 GMT 12
aircraftclocks. Very interested to hear you have the manual Vol. 1 you mentioned. Does it have an AP number. As we have no manuals and very little technical data, anything is extremely valuable for this restoration.
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Post by shamus on Dec 13, 2012 18:42:08 GMT 12
Except one vital difference. The Finnish Ripon was a special model to be made in Finland and is different to the British Ripons in that the rear fuselage was plywood and not fabric. Essential dimensions can be obtained from it but we don't know just how much the difference is. Only time will tell, but i think a trip to Finland is essential.
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Post by shamus on Dec 13, 2012 17:49:47 GMT 12
Hi curtiss again, John Smith had 2 forward airframes. One of them is now with Don & Steve. I don't think he had anymore Baffin bits. I think I would have found out on my many trips to see him.
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Post by shamus on Dec 13, 2012 17:43:40 GMT 12
Hi curtiss, do they have brake drums on the other side. This could be the deciding factor.
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Post by shamus on Dec 13, 2012 14:54:46 GMT 12
Jon L, Yes.
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