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Post by Mustang51 on Dec 24, 2012 13:06:22 GMT 12
Hear hear JDK !
I have been going to Wanaka since 1998, Omaka first time 2011 and back again next year. I have always travelled with the Memsahib and she enjoys the shows immensely. That's a huge key to success. Sue even made it into the Otago Daily times in 2010 and, I believe is seen in the dvd sipping a wine in the Omaka Gold Pass area. She is enthusiastic about airshows - especially in NZ - but is also an 'enthusiast" being the best paint stripper in the world and having worked on, amongst other lighter warbirds, Mustangs on this side of the ditch and also Hudson repaint. What I am getting at - and as mentioned elsewhere in this thread - we need to take off the anoraks and see it from other people's perspectives. They all don't know that there are 78,000 rivets in a Spitfire and quite frankly they don't want to know. At one show in Aussie a mate of mine simply stated the next day that he just wanted to know a bit of the history of the aircraft and its type but didn't want to know how to build one. His comments directed at one of the commentators who drowned on endlessly about rubbish - and over the Merlin - without a care except what HE wanted to say.
It is so difficult to organise an airshow and to make it 'different'. Try it one day if you dare, to get onto an organising committee. You'll see its just not about the aircraft, its about theatre, toilets, dagwood dogs (God forbid I eat one of those again !) merchandising, organising star aircraft that have mechanicals at the last minute, about lost kids, inexplicable queues at car parks, dust and why aren't there more water carts, unforecast freezing rain etc, etc, etc. That's the reality of an airshow............ that and the "thank God that's all-over" coffee when the last person is out of the car park. Try finding someone with Aldzheimers at 7pm when they have just wandered off.....
Kiwi and Aussie airshows are, in my view, far better organised than many others around the world. What they may lack in 67 Mustangs are mare up in spades by the organisers and the participants. So..... bored at an airshow now......... just think back to the 1960 and see what was around.
The best place is the commentary box but it is also the worst at the same time, lost kids, who's on next, where are they?, etc, etc, etc...........
We need to keep our minds open to everyone's needs at these shows. If we just made it for the enthusiasts we'd have one show and that would be the end of it.
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Post by mumbles on Dec 25, 2012 22:56:59 GMT 12
Hear hear JDK ! I have been going to Wanaka since 1998, Omaka first time 2011 and back again next year. I have always travelled with the Memsahib and she enjoys the shows immensely. That's a huge key to success. Sue even made it into the Otago Daily times in 2010 and, I believe is seen in the dvd sipping a wine in the Omaka Gold Pass area. She is enthusiastic about airshows - especially in NZ - but is also an 'enthusiast" being the best paint stripper in the world and having worked on, amongst other lighter warbirds, Mustangs on this side of the ditch and also Hudson repaint. What I am getting at - and as mentioned elsewhere in this thread - we need to take off the anoraks and see it from other people's perspectives. They all don't know that there are 78,000 rivets in a Spitfire and quite frankly they don't want to know. At one show in Aussie a mate of mine simply stated the next day that he just wanted to know a bit of the history of the aircraft and its type but didn't want to know how to build one. His comments directed at one of the commentators who drowned on endlessly about rubbish - and over the Merlin - without a care except what HE wanted to say. It is so difficult to organise an airshow and to make it 'different'. Try it one day if you dare, to get onto an organising committee. You'll see its just not about the aircraft, its about theatre, toilets, dagwood dogs (God forbid I eat one of those again !) merchandising, organising star aircraft that have mechanicals at the last minute, about lost kids, inexplicable queues at car parks, dust and why aren't there more water carts, unforecast freezing rain etc, etc, etc. That's the reality of an airshow............ that and the "thank God that's all-over" coffee when the last person is out of the car park. Try finding someone with Aldzheimers at 7pm when they have just wandered off..... Kiwi and Aussie airshows are, in my view, far better organised than many others around the world. What they may lack in 67 Mustangs are mare up in spades by the organisers and the participants. So..... bored at an airshow now......... just think back to the 1960 and see what was around. The best place is the commentary box but it is also the worst at the same time, lost kids, who's on next, where are they?, etc, etc, etc........... We need to keep our minds open to everyone's needs at these shows. If we just made it for the enthusiasts we'd have one show and that would be the end of it. Entirely agreed, especially on the '78,000' rivets point. I am an anorak, but sometimes less commentary is more, especially when some commentary scripts have factual errors (there are a couple of local examples of this I have heard a few times, repeatedly). Not only is it extraneous, but when it's wrong it's even more frustrating. |
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Post by typerated on Dec 30, 2012 16:32:11 GMT 12
No updates of participation on the website.
I imagine two aircraft that won't make it are:
The mossie - off to the States before Easter?
The Catalina - corrosion problems still?
Anyone know for sure?
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Post by nzjet on Dec 30, 2012 17:41:27 GMT 12
Catalina wont be
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Post by typerated on Dec 30, 2012 18:26:31 GMT 12
Thanks
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Post by JamesStokes on Jan 2, 2013 18:28:34 GMT 12
Considering the Mossie has been flying all over the show (pardon the pun) since late Sept, I'd say it probably won't be here for easter, sadly.
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Post by Dave Homewood on Jan 14, 2013 20:55:04 GMT 12
It seems to me that some of the concepts behind Classic Fighters airshows go back a lot further than I thought. In the 3rd of June 1968 AHSNZ Journal it reports on an airshow held over Easter Weekend 1968 (13th of April) that marked the 40th Anniversary of the Marlborough Aero Club. In this airshow they had: - a mass flypast - two "WWI fighters" (Avian ZK-ACM and Moth ZK-AEJ) chasing each others tails, then 'strafing soldiers on the ground who were behind sandbags - A big air battle where it seems up to ten Tiger Moths joined in the fight - a NZ airshow "first" where Mr R. Handley stood on the wing stand on top of Tiger Moth ZK-BRG flown by Mr J.E. Moon - and the crew had built a replica Bleriot XI Monoplane "Britannia" which was powered by a Gipsy Major, and was designed to attemtp to take off and break in half in the take off run. However it never got that far as the wind caught it when it was being towed and damaged the undercarriage. It sounds like a fun airshow for those days and kind of sounds like the genesis of a lot of stuff we see there today, only with much better WWI replicas.  |
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Post by baz62 on Jan 14, 2013 21:19:27 GMT 12
That sounds like it would have been a sight to see, 10 Tigers mixing it up! On a modern note looks like my accommodation is sorted for this years show and the leave is booked! Let the countdown begin.  |
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Post by Naki on Jan 14, 2013 21:23:52 GMT 12
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Post by Dave Homewood on Jan 14, 2013 21:29:55 GMT 12
Please do scan more Paul!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2013 10:59:04 GMT 12
Has anyone heard any news on the show? It seems to have been rather quiet...maybe they have some tricks up their sleeves to really wow us?
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Post by FlyingKiwi on Jan 15, 2013 20:13:03 GMT 12
I'm still quietly hoping to attend, but realistically it probably isn't going to happen - apart from anything sorting accomodation now anywhere in the vague vicinity would be mission impossible I think. Still, if I make it to Wings Over Wairarapa this weekend I'll be satisfied as I've never been to it before either.
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Post by kiwithrottlejockey on Jan 15, 2013 20:31:29 GMT 12
I'm still quietly hoping to attend, but realistically it probably isn't going to happen - apart from anything sorting accomodation now anywhere in the vague vicinity would be mission impossible I think. Still, if I make it to Wings Over Wairarapa this weekend I'll be satisfied as I've never been to it before either.
I managed to get accommodation in two different backpackers at the last minute for the first three Classic Fighters airshows. And I know people who managed to do the same for Classic Fighters 2009 and 2011. |
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Post by rbwannabe on Jan 15, 2013 21:10:46 GMT 12
Pitts Model12
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Post by DragonflyDH90 on Jan 15, 2013 21:56:33 GMT 12
Great Richard. Might finally get to see it.
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Post by Dave Homewood on Jan 15, 2013 22:45:05 GMT 12
oooh yes, I'd love to see the Pitts Model 12 too.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2013 20:22:13 GMT 12
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Post by baz62 on Jan 27, 2013 18:50:04 GMT 12
Well Teresa and I are all set. Holidays booked, accommodation booked and now I've bought two 3 Day Gold Passes.
Now the waiting begins!
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Post by kiwithrottlejockey on Jan 27, 2013 21:38:58 GMT 12
Well Teresa and I are all set. Holidays booked, accommodation booked and now I've bought two 3 Day Gold Passes. Now the waiting begins!
I've been claiming that spot every Classic Fighters since the first one in 2001. Talk about being a creature of habit, eh? ;D |
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Post by andynz on Jan 30, 2013 22:22:55 GMT 12
Yep looking forward to Omaka as always. Flying in to OM thursday (weather permitting).. it is always a great show, excellent group of enthusiasts behind the scenes and the best venue in the country for an airshow. It'll be another top weekend.
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