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Post by shorty on May 31, 2009 21:48:16 GMT 12
NZ 1001 was written off at Harewood in February 1945 so it must be 1081 in front.
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Post by NZ1009 on May 31, 2009 22:54:53 GMT 12
1091 is the aircraft in front - 1081 was written off in 1955.
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Post by nzav8a on Jun 2, 2009 20:04:10 GMT 12
NZ1013 Wellington December 1968 NZ1014 Wigram 1958 NZ1027 Wigram 1958 NZ1079 Wigram November 1967 Wigram 24 June 1977
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Post by flyjoe180 on Jun 2, 2009 20:18:34 GMT 12
Wow, those last two photos are noisy!
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Post by Dave Homewood on Jun 3, 2009 0:36:33 GMT 12
Fantastic photos there Glen. I've never seen a nice clear coloured shot of the Red Checkers in the day-glo orange scheme like that before, the red of the checks and the orange rather clash. Ugly but very interesting.
In the second-to-last photo of all the Harvards lined up at Wigram are those two bright silver ones the FAC examples? They look really shiny.
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Post by NZ1009 on Jun 3, 2009 9:49:05 GMT 12
Execllent photos of the Harvards. Going by the last two I must have been standing close to you on the final day. Presumably the red FIVE on the in-take of the Red Checkers 1079 denotes its position in the team?
As an aside, of the 97 MkIIA, MkIIB and MkIII RNZAF Harvards I have photos of 76 of them. The ones that I dont have and date they were written off are shown in the following table.
Number W/O | Number W/O | Number W/O | Number W/O --------------------------------------------------------- 1008 1943 | 1011 1942 | 1020 1957 | 1021 1944 1022 1943 | 1026 1945 | 1030 1943 | 1031 1944 1032 1944 | 1035 1945 | 1036 1954 | 1042 1953 1045 1943 | 1047 1956 | 1048 1945 | 1054 1946 1055 1956 | 1059 1944 | 1070 1954 | 1081 1955 1093 1956 |
Given the most recent one was written off 52 years ago there is probably not much hope of finding photos of any of them but if anyone knows of any photos I would be very interested. Basically I am constructing a web album with all photos I can find of each aircraft while they were in the RNZAF plus one extra photo of those that went into civilian hands.
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Post by yak2 on Jun 3, 2009 13:25:51 GMT 12
Re 1085. Had the pleasure of 30 minutes as GIB on 3 April 1988 at Mangalore. Lovely aircraft that gave me the warbird bug.
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Post by Gavin Conroy on Jun 3, 2009 21:46:53 GMT 12
What a great thread this is. All of the photos are fantastic and their sure were a lot of different colour schemes.
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Post by baz62 on Jun 3, 2009 22:45:46 GMT 12
In the second-to-last photo of all the Harvards lined up at Wigram are those two bright silver ones the FAC examples? They look really shiny. Yes they are Dave NZ1056 and NZ1037 and you can just make them out in the formation too. I remember this well. I was kicking a rugby ball around at my high school (Go Burnside) and heard this roar (well 17 Harvards........aint going to be quiet!) and this formation flew right over my head. Man I was standing there mouth open just going wow! If I didn't love the sound of a Harvard before then that did it! Amazing that most of them are still flying and that my little paws got to touch two of them (NZ1015 and 1087).
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Post by harvard1041 on Jun 4, 2009 3:15:21 GMT 12
Good List of 'missing' Harvard photos there NZ1009 ... here's one of them...NZ1047 (OD-8 on 4 FOTU)...will see what others I have. Rgds Hvd1041
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Post by NZ1009 on Jun 4, 2009 14:09:46 GMT 12
harvard1041, Thanks very much for that. I have PM'd you the authorisation keys for the two web-albums. I am sure that you will recognise some of the photos (will be adding credit later where I can).
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Post by baz62 on Jun 4, 2009 15:08:52 GMT 12
John I was showing this thread to my exRNZAF workmate and his commnet about the photo of NZ1047 was that it looked like it had the wooden rear fuselage that some of the Harvards arrived with(later replaced with Alloy ones) Baz
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Post by harvard1041 on Jun 4, 2009 15:33:53 GMT 12
Hi Baz Yes - sure seems like it...and also in (another) 4 FOTU aircraft- NZ1046 - below. Kind of neat photo - PSP under the aircraft at OH etc. 4 OTU being one of the two Fighter OTUs..... OD-1 to OD-10 being Harvards...and OD-11 to OD-40 something being P-40s. Question is when were they changed out for metal rear fuselages..and does anyone know the RNZAF Mod Number ? Here's another shot of your missing Harvards - Wayne - NZ1020. Not a great photo..but understand this was one of the Army Co Op Units at Norwood. Rgds Hvd1041
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Post by Dave Homewood on Jun 4, 2009 16:48:36 GMT 12
Great photos! For the record the Army Co-op unit at Norwood was No. 22 (AC) Squadron.
So were these No. 4 OTU Harvards painted silver overall, or just on the wooden rear fuselage with the rest being polished metal?
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Post by Peter Lewis on Jun 8, 2009 22:47:40 GMT 12
Right, Onevar - the next group - Harvard NZ1060 is said to have been in store at Wigram by 1962, but this was presumably short-term as this photo shows it being worked on in 1964. In 1977 it was presented to the RAAF Museum in 1977 and was made airworthy as VH-SFY at Point Cook marked as NZ934. At Wigram 26Aug1964:NZ1061 remained airworthy with the RNZAF until 1977 when it was sold to W Greville, Broken Hill, NSW and briefly appeared as ZK-ENH before departing to Australia where it became VH-PEM in 1980 with the same owner At Wigram 29Aug1964:NZ1065 was another Harvard that remained in active use until the end of RNZAF service. It was sold to W. Williams, Mount Maunganui in 1978 and was registered to E J Adams, W S Bell, M C Christophersen, R O Dahlberg & D J Phillips, Mt Maunganui as ZK-ENF the same year. At Wigram 25Aug1964:Harvard NZ1066 has a similar history of RNZAF use and sale to W. Williams in 1978. It became ZK-ENE with M C Christophersen, Mt Maunganui in June 1978. At Wigram 26Aug1964:NZ1075 remained active until the final days in 1977, eventually being sold by GSB tender during 1978 to Airferry Inc., Sydney, NSW. Despite this, it was passed on to D G Reidpath, Auckland and registered as ZK-ENI in August 1978. By 1981 ownership was transferred to H D Brunton, Narromine, NSW who took it to Australia where it became VH-HVD in 1982. At Wigram 24Aug1964:At the opening of the new airport, New Plymouth, 4March1967:
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Post by harvard1041 on Jun 9, 2009 3:33:45 GMT 12
Hey - great shots there... are most of these in 2 Hangar at WG ?
Rgds Hvd1041
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Post by baz62 on Jun 9, 2009 15:22:07 GMT 12
Yes the RAAF got NZ1060 and then asked for another one and got NZ1034 which was at Ohakea with the RNZAF Museum. Greedy buggers! Nice photos and enjoy seeing ones I haven't seen before. I love this thread! Baz ;D
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Post by Dave Homewood on Jun 9, 2009 15:47:07 GMT 12
But they did give us a flyable Canberra don't forget Baz. And a very nice one it is too. And they flew lots of planes at the Museum's opening as well.
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Post by agalbraith on Jun 9, 2009 21:24:29 GMT 12
A sad end to 1080......... In happier times
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Post by agalbraith on Jun 9, 2009 21:28:44 GMT 12
Was 1020 one you were looking for??
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