Hey - great shots there... are most of these in 2 Hangar at WG ?
I only have vague memories - it was a long time ago, 45 years! As I remember it, there was one (or possibly two) hangars that housed the operational Harvards and Devons, another hangar where the maintenance was carried out and finally a hangar at the far end which housed lots and lots of stored Harvards under canvas covers.
Retirement is something for the young. Once you are old you never seem to have the time.
Post by Dave Homewood on Jun 9, 2009 22:10:35 GMT 12
Nice photo of NZ1087 in the one-off trial CFS scheme. The red and white colours must have been very striking on that aircraft.
Ine the other photo, why would there be the dark panel above the Territorial Air Force checkerboard on top of the fuselage?
It would be neat to pick a particular Harvard like NZ1087 and make models of every colour scheme it wore in its long career, you'd end up with a few interesting models I'd think. Or you could do art profiles I guess. Where's phas3e?
Post by Peter Lewis on Jun 9, 2009 22:31:57 GMT 12
Harvard NZ1076 was another long-term RNZAF survivor. Active until 1977, it was then sold to Rex Brereton, Dunedin in July 1978 and became ZK-ENB with the same owner immediately.
At Wigram 26Aug1964:
NZ1078 had the misfortune of a forced-landing in 1974, but was restored back to airworthy and survived with the RNZAF until 1977. Sold GSB tender number 022112 to W. Field, Nelson and then passed on to G A Martin & B J Dalliessi, Blenheim who registered it as ZK-ENG in July 1978.
At Wigram 29Aug1964:
NZ1079 remained active until 1977. Sold to W. Williams, Mount Maunganui 7Aug78, it was never civil registered in NZ but was sold to Paul Brice, Va, USA later in 1978 and was civil registered there retaining it's RNZAF c/s initially as N111PB and later as (more appropriately) N101NZ.
At Wigram Apr1976:
At Willow Grove NAS as N111PB 1987:
Harvard NZ1080 had the misfortune to sustain a fatal crash into Rakaia River 11Aug73. The results can be seen in the post-crash photo posted by Anthony above. Components from this aircraft were used in restoration of NZ1058 at Ferrymead Museum.
Yes you have! The pictures look great.The black and white photos ..is there a story behind them? Were you with the RNZAF at the time at Wigram and able to take the pictures or did you know someone and was able to get on base? Was it a special open day?
Keep them coming Peter, its great to see the Harvards !
Is anyone able to fill in the missing serial numbers? All the serial numbers above are, with the exception of 1089 which is in the Taranaki Transport Museum, still flying!
A photo of 1051 prior to the one in the collection above (CFS, mid-1950s) and also one after, resplendent in its new colour scheme and living in Perth.
A couple of other questions I have are, in Reply #715 in Shorty's Some Photos From My Stash, there appears to a substantial portion of the rear fuselage of 1083 which is currently a reserve aircraft for the RNZAF Historic Flight. Why would it be necessary to replace such a large portion of the rear fuselage?
Also, does anyone have any idea where the following photo was taken? It was captioned "The RNZAF’s Territorial Airforce flew these Harvards on weekend camps during the early 1950s. (Bert Stapleton, History of New Zealand Aviation, p206)" and shows NZ1046, NZ1050, NZ1057, NZ1037, NZ1015, NZ1010 and NZ1029. I have seen another photo of an NAC DC-3 taken in the identical location.
Post by Dave Homewood on Jun 12, 2009 18:24:08 GMT 12
All the RNZAF's INST numbers matched to serials up till the point the book was written, so will include these Harbards, are in one of Warren Russell's books. I cannot get to it right now but will do soon if no-one beats me to it.
So that's where NZ1051 went. Thanks for that, nice photo of it.
In that last shot of TAF Harvards I've often wonered were the stripes on some deliberately painted yellow, or were they orange stripes that have faded?
the plain yellow stripes were the original 1950s colour scheme, similar to the RAF scheme of the period. Some received dayglo orange stripes as part of the RNZAf experiments into the effectiveness of the finish (this was just before the period when wing tips and rear fuselages of all training types got the treatment!) hence some, such as '57 glow, (also note the orange wing tips) and the others dont. Faded Dayglo generally goes powdery white rather than yellow (and quickly at that!)