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Post by Dave Homewood on Nov 27, 2008 19:34:44 GMT 12
What is that Shorty? A Lincoln or a Shackleton? I recognise the Hudsons and Harvard, and the tail in the foreground looks like a C-47 perhaps?
Did Lincolns or Shackletons visit NZ as early as 1948, the last time the Hudsons were in service?
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Post by shorty on Nov 27, 2008 19:58:13 GMT 12
A Lincoln, probably a RAAF one.
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Post by denysjones on Nov 28, 2008 7:07:05 GMT 12
Given the apparent height off ground and general shape, as much as you can see, wouldn't the photo platform possibly be a DC-4/C-54?
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Post by shorty on Nov 28, 2008 7:43:33 GMT 12
I doubt a DC-4/C-54 would fit into that hangar tail first.
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Post by Dave Homewood on Nov 28, 2008 10:54:17 GMT 12
I don't think it's in the hangar, just sitting outside. The hangar wouldn't be long eough to enclose a C-54 or C-47 as well as the Lincoln and Hudsons and Harvards, surely?
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Post by shorty on Nov 29, 2008 22:26:33 GMT 12
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Post by shorty on Nov 30, 2008 12:20:38 GMT 12
Some more from the same Open Day, I think it may have been the first year the Hercs went down the ice hence showing them of at an Open Day to the good folk of Christchurch. Seen in the backgrund of this first shot is a P2-H Neptune.  scan0124 (2) by Neville Mines, on Flickr  scan0176 by Neville Mines, on Flickr and then in the background of this last shot are a couple of real heavyweights in the shape of some C-124 Globemasters.and a DC-4. Much more interesting than C-130s!  scan0121 by Neville Mines, on Flickr |
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Post by shorty on Dec 2, 2008 21:37:13 GMT 12
While I'm going through transports of Operation Deep Freeze hows about some of the ultimate in heavy metal. Starting off with a photo of four taken (I think) in about 1961 at Harewood  scan0125 by Neville Mines, on Flickr  scan0126 by Neville Mines, on Flickr |
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Post by shorty on Dec 3, 2008 12:31:40 GMT 12
Some more of the big birds,  scan0129 by Neville Mines, on Flickr and finally at the Ohakea 64 display  scan0130 by Neville Mines, on Flickr  scan0169 by Neville Mines, on Flickr Look at the comparative size of the guys on top of it. When I can scan slides I will post shots of the last one of these that I saw flying. Probably th last to visit NZ it delivered a Jet Ranger and a Huey Cobra to Ohakea in 1970 (Got photo of that too!) |
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Post by Dave Homewood on Dec 3, 2008 12:47:39 GMT 12
Huey Cobra? What was that in NZ for?
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Post by shorty on Dec 3, 2008 13:49:58 GMT 12
I guess they were trying to sell them to us. It put on a firepower demo at Waiouru along with Canberras and Vampires. Most of us who were on Strike wing weere bussed up to watch it along with most of the grunts from Waiouru. It was in the river flat to the west of SH 1 and the power pylons and we were all sitting up the side of the valley watching . The Canberras dropped bombs and fired rockets, the Vampires used their 20mm and rockets and the Huey let rip with it's minigun and grenade launcher, great way to fill in a day and a hell of a way to demolish a pile of 44 gallon drums !
Just checked the date it was 24-7-68 I'll post the photos sometime.
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Post by Dave Homewood on Dec 3, 2008 14:15:41 GMT 12
Wow, I had no idea the RNZAF and Army were demonstrated Cobras. Thanks Shorty.
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Post by shorty on Dec 3, 2008 18:53:51 GMT 12
Well while I'm covering round engined birds that used to go down the ice I might as well throw in these four photos that were given to me by a guy who was with US Navy Task Force Forty Three. Luckily as Official USN photos they have captions on the back so I can quote from those. Starting first up with one that has a NZ connection. Taken 30 Nov 1960 Dog team of the field team of four NZ Scientists conducting geological surveys, with R4D-8 BuNo 17188 in the background at the team's camp site on the Nimrod Glacier  scan0060 by Neville Mines, on Flickr Taken 23 October 1960. Airdevron R7V Super Constellation being off loaded upon it's arrival at Naval Air Facility McMurdo Sound,Antarctica, during one of the worst spring storms during Operation Deepfreeze 61.  scan0227 by Neville Mines, on Flickr Taken at the same time Personnel of Operation Deepfreeze 61 sorting out baggage upon their arrival at McMurdo during the same storm. Brave people to shut down piston engines in those conditions!  scan0226 by Neville Mines, on Flickr And then shades of James Bond in Thunderball Taken 28 January 1961 P2V-7 Neptune assigned to Navy's VZ-6 Air Development Squadron makes cocntsct with the 500 foot nylon line attached to a helium balloon. The line is caught in special nose mounted frame called an "Aeroretriever". This experiment was conducted over the ice landing strip at McMurdo during the summer support season Operation Deepfreeze 61.  scan0225 by Neville Mines, on Flickr Ahh, the days when they flew real aeroplanes (sorry, airplanes) down there! |
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Post by Dave Homewood on Dec 3, 2008 19:53:32 GMT 12
Was that Aeroretriever balloon system designed so ground personnel could pass on messages to aircraft or something?
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Post by shorty on Dec 3, 2008 20:15:43 GMT 12
It was called the Fulton Skyhook aeroretriever system and it actually snatched a man, wearing a special harness, up off the ground (or in the case of Sean Connery in Thunderball out of a liferaft with his girlfriend too) and the "target" was winched up into the aircraft. I don't quite know how but a bit of internet search will probably give more info.
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Post by Dave Homewood on Dec 3, 2008 20:33:58 GMT 12
Ah yes, I vaguely recall seeing that in Thunderball. I must watch it again.
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Post by shorty on Dec 3, 2008 20:43:52 GMT 12
Its the very last scene, just before they roll the credits
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Post by shorty on Dec 4, 2008 13:53:13 GMT 12
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Post by shorty on Dec 4, 2008 15:43:13 GMT 12
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Post by skyhawkdon on Dec 4, 2008 19:59:35 GMT 12
Hey Shorty, is that AMS hangar Ohakea or 1RD Woodbourne? Also what year please... aame for the line up of Skyhawks one. Where and when please? The one of Fred's sled is one I haven't seen before - is it RNZAF Official? Keep them coming!
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