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Post by shorty on Dec 21, 2008 14:16:58 GMT 12
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Post by Damon on Dec 21, 2008 19:30:09 GMT 12
I take it that the Harvard on the Subritzky's front lawn is NZ1053? What is the NZ serial for the '78' marked Harvard, NZ1078 by chance? I thought it had the late RNZAF paint scheme before retirement. Thanks.
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Post by shorty on Dec 21, 2008 20:03:26 GMT 12
Don's one was INST 173/NZ 1069, Darby's was Inst 178/NZ 1090.
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Post by shorty on Dec 21, 2008 20:43:22 GMT 12
Here's some more Harvard shots Wigram 1967  Document (64) by Neville Mines, on Flickr 42 Squadron hangar, Ohakea late 60's  NZ 1037 by Neville Mines, on Flickr INST188/NZ 1007 during the servicing phase of either our Mechanics or Fitters couse, 5 Hangar, Woodbourne.1968 or 1970 The main TTS was in 2 hangar but the servicing phase (with Harvards and Vampires) was done at 5 hangar. 5 shed was also the storage hangar (mainly Vampires) and ASF operated out of one corner. The "line" offices for the TTS were 2 Auster packing crates and the classroom was also the cricket pavilion.  NZ 1007 (INST188) by Neville Mines, on Flickr |
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Post by Damon on Dec 21, 2008 21:05:41 GMT 12
Thanks shorty.I gather they are now both in Australia. I remember paint stipping an outer wing from NZ1069 in 1991 when I was working for Greg Ryan/Aerotech.I think it went on the restoration of NZ1052 in the end. Interesting to see the late '60's colour scheme still looking so good .
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Post by shorty on Dec 21, 2008 22:18:35 GMT 12
Staying with Harvards we have NZ 1046 / INST 185 on the fire dump at Wigram in April 1967  NZ 1046 (INST 185) by Neville Mines, on Flickr and then moving north we have Te Kumi in September 1967  Bennet Harvards 2 by Neville Mines, on Flickr and finally a shot at an unknown date, note they have the tall radio masts, old (pre fern leaf) roundels and unusually no buzz numbers. It looks like NZ 1041 is the only one fitted with solo weights although they are all flying one up.Anybody want to guess a date?Early 50s?  scan0014 by Neville Mines, on Flickr |
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Post by harvard1041 on Dec 24, 2008 22:54:42 GMT 12
Great shots again there Shorty !....love those Harvards.
I also have that four ship of Harvards - must be an RNZAF Official shot...I suspect it is the '62 or '63 CFS Team - I recall talking to Stu Boys once - he had the same shot - he was on the team at the time.
Merry Christmas
Rgds
John.
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Post by Dave Homewood on Dec 25, 2008 8:55:01 GMT 12
Stewart Boys was in the CFS Wigram team from 1962 till 1965, so it could be any of those years really.
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Post by harvard1041 on Dec 26, 2008 20:26:02 GMT 12
...but NZ1041 stopped flying in 1963 and went into storage.
Rgds
NZ1041
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Post by Dave Homewood on Dec 26, 2008 21:09:59 GMT 12
Ah-ha. Yes, so that narrows it down. Well done.
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Post by shorty on Dec 28, 2008 10:21:50 GMT 12
Well, I didn't know whether to post these on the Harvard thread or keep them here and this one wins, that way I can keep better track of what I have posted so hare are a couple of unusua shots of Harvards. First up is at NZ 1056 Hobsonville in the latter half of 1967 while I was at 1 TTS.  NZ 1056 by Neville Mines, on Flickr The second shot (an I can't remember the serial but it also may be '56) is the result of Fg Off Bruce Renai's beat up of a truck at Raumai/Tangimoana on 3-2-69. He had only recently qualified as a pilot and was authorised on this day to carry out continuation training including aerobatics and low flying practice. Then there was this local council truck parked on a sand dune (fortunately the crew were not in the cab) and the 50' minimum height restriction sort of got lost "in a rush of youthful exuberence" and the wing tip went through the truck cab. Result? The harvard lost about 18" of wing tip and jammed the aileron. He never declared a problem until he joined finals which didn't go down well with the powers that be. The wing was written off and the pilot was fined and awarded a loss of seniorority. He left the Air Force shortly after.  Document (58) by Neville Mines, on Flickr |
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Post by Dave Homewood on Dec 28, 2008 11:52:33 GMT 12
Blimey, it looks like he was lucky to get that aircraft safely down after hitting the truck.
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Post by baz62 on Jan 2, 2009 8:21:12 GMT 12
Blimey, it looks like he was lucky to get that aircraft safely down after hitting the truck. I'll say! Man those Harvards are tough! I'm surprised she didn't crash when she hit the truck! Bet the Council guys got a surprise, imagine telling the boss what happend "She got hit by this aeroplane boss honest!"  |
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Post by shorty on Jan 20, 2009 14:41:15 GMT 12
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Post by Dave Homewood on Jan 20, 2009 20:51:02 GMT 12
They take me back to the good old days Shorty.
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Post by John L on Jan 22, 2009 13:02:45 GMT 12
CT4's - noisy little blighters - we used to live in Motukarara in the mid 80's and during the week there were hordes of these blighters cavorting about the sky, normally over our place, it seemed!
Was good when the Harvard was out practising though - I think he used to use the canals out the back as a reference line......
Was very impressed coming back home one evening, to watch a Friendship doing a low level steep turn - judging by the row of trees, his port wingtip was about 30-40ft above the paddock!
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Post by shorty on Jan 22, 2009 20:39:14 GMT 12
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Post by Damon on Jan 22, 2009 20:58:44 GMT 12
It does seem to be a bit' buddy buddy 'in the back.Watch out for C of G!
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Post by Dave Homewood on Jan 22, 2009 21:00:31 GMT 12
Shorty, what's the story with that last shot with all those CT/4B's in the air? Was that Wigram on the 50th Anniversary of the RNZAF?
Regarding NZ1056, is that two people in the rare cockpit?
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Post by shorty on Jan 23, 2009 7:03:56 GMT 12
Not only two people but solo weights fitted as well!
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NZ 1015 by Neville Mines, on Flickr
NZ 1015a by Neville Mines, on Flickr
NZ 1015b by Neville Mines, on Flickr
