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Post by phil on Mar 7, 2014 17:11:57 GMT 12
To be quite honest, apart from the aircrew who may be excited about this, it's about as relevant to the rest of the air force as Massey aviation or some other company buying new aircraft.
Apart from the pilots who will fly them, no one else in the air force is going to have anything to do with them, honestly it's a none event to everyone else.
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Post by beagle on Mar 7, 2014 22:47:16 GMT 12
S&S will still all the safety equipment ?
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Post by phil on Mar 8, 2014 8:01:51 GMT 12
I think they are looking after the Aircrew flying clothing, but that's not the same as working on the aircraft.
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Post by beagle on Mar 9, 2014 19:57:40 GMT 12
what about aircraft harnesses. we used to check them for serviceability.
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Post by Dave Homewood on Mar 9, 2014 20:50:45 GMT 12
The S&S trade used to look after the CT/4's parachutes, liferafts, helmets, life preservers, paintwork, markings and stencilling, harnesses, quick release fittings, canopy covers and transparencies, as well as a myriad of other flightline duties. Also we were responsible for training the new aircrew in use of all the safety and emergency escape devices.
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Post by TS on Mar 9, 2014 21:02:25 GMT 12
G------ OSH------ ??
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Post by beagle on Mar 10, 2014 17:24:52 GMT 12
any news if Safe air have the staff to fulfil this contract
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Post by beagle on Apr 29, 2014 21:18:07 GMT 12
any news or photos from the USA regards these frames
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Post by jimtheeagle on Apr 30, 2014 21:06:55 GMT 12
The word from someone I know is: The First two RNZAF T-6s are due through the UK on delivery circa July 23, however Beechcraft might bring delivery forward and visit Farnborough, possibly RIAT.
JT
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Post by beagle on Apr 30, 2014 22:31:14 GMT 12
cheers for that. will have to look up for when those shows are on etc and maybe see if there will be some images then. if they take them, it would be static only like the 109 was.
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Post by tfly on May 1, 2014 0:28:09 GMT 12
That's reason enough to attend these two air shows (if I needed one?)
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Post by beagle on May 1, 2014 6:35:29 GMT 12
I see on the UK airshow review forum that Beechcraft has confirmed participation by 2 T6's
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Post by ErrolC on May 1, 2014 8:54:02 GMT 12
They've had the type listed for Farnborough for at least a week, and have used company demo planes previously I think? Examples en route to a customer would be an improvement for Beechcraft, and spotters!
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Post by tbf25o4 on May 1, 2014 14:57:53 GMT 12
Talking with several senior RNZAF officers at a symposium at Wellington recently they confirmed that the NZ14xx series will be used for the serial numbers. I guess as a purist it seems unusual to deviate from policy of not duplicating RNZAF serials from the policy (written in the late 1980s) but as with civil registrations in New Zealand the re-issuing of perused serial numbers would be the norm!
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Post by Dave Homewood on May 1, 2014 17:49:24 GMT 12
And it's nothing new - Baffin and Walrus both carried the same numbers. The Meteor and Beaver too. And Vincents and Wellingtons at the same time!
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2014 18:47:54 GMT 12
It'll be interesting to see whether they are NZ machines and if so, how exciting! Didn't something similar happen with a Strikemaster or two?
I saw a couple of 1/48 T-6 kits at Modelcrafts & Hobbies in Wellington - very tempting, but I'll wait until the real thing has arrived before I build one!
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Post by camtech on May 1, 2014 18:55:21 GMT 12
I'm with you Paul.
There are a number of alternatives available, but I guess the lure of 14 sqdn having their "own" aircraft was too much.
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Post by roly on May 1, 2014 20:25:27 GMT 12
Regarding re-use of tail numbers - there will come a time when they will HAVE to be re-used. If all training aircraft are in the 1XXX range, then that means they can only range between 1001 and 1999; i.e a total of 999 aircraft. Admittedly that is an AWFUL lot of aircraft, but the fact remains - they WILL run out. The policy is over 30 years old, things change and its not like the NZDF gets new aircraft every year - this is a 30 year solution; so I say why the hell not just pick up on the 14 Sqn thing? NZ7571 and 7572 are nice and neat numbers for the B757-200s, and NZ7271/7272 for their B727 predecessors (and yes I know that 7XXX does fall within the policy for tpt acft) but the spirit of identifying the tail number with the type and/or unit is not without precedent, and as Dave has pointed out, the re-use of tail numbers is nothing new in the RNZAF. I don't think there is any chance that the T-6Cs will be confused with the Tiger Moths that bore the NZ1401-NZ1411 numbers before them (none of which are still in existence anyway)!
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Post by roly on May 1, 2014 20:39:16 GMT 12
They've had the type listed for Farnborough for at least a week, and have used company demo planes previously I think? Examples en route to a customer would be an improvement for Beechcraft, and spotters! If they do have the NZDF aircraft there I cant imagine them being anything but on static display. Not the done thing to wring the customer's aircraft out doing flying displays before they have even been accepted -would you like your new car to have been used in a drifting display before you got your hands on it?
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Post by beagle on May 1, 2014 22:09:17 GMT 12
of course they will be on static display only. I don't think having my Toyota ractis doing a drifting lap by shane van gisburgen would be on par with a skilled test pilot doing a display of it capabilities. Would I be right in saying most of the manoeuvre's done in a display would be performed in test flights before acceptance.
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