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Post by TS on Apr 7, 2015 21:44:42 GMT 12
They were all briefed before hand they all knew what was out there, lets not be nannies, about what in all was a great show. Long may they continue onwards and upwards I say....  Plus take the show for what it is, stop being such perfectionists.... |
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Post by mumbles on Apr 7, 2015 23:57:34 GMT 12
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Post by blackgull on Apr 8, 2015 7:23:18 GMT 12
If Joe Public didn't like the show, it would cease to exist. Of course from an authentic point of view the V1 was hyped. But that's what entertainment is about. For the purists tho' the V1 will undergo further development to increase it's authenticity and power. There are significant technical challenges in doing this, and even in getting it to this stage. BTW the wings are stressed to take at least 12G. It was very turbulent low down on Saturday and tricky to judge that downwind turn, so full marks to the pilot for handling it so well.
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Post by lumpy on Apr 8, 2015 7:29:57 GMT 12
I thought the V1 was very underpowered without any get out of jail power, not to mention the wings flappin like a bird, a little over hyped I think, oh well, joe public seemed to like it. Yes , I can see how you would think that , but remember it flew on Saturday in winds that some of the full size aircraft didnt fly in ( it had enough power to do so ) . Also sometimes it appeared to struggle to climb , but it was actually being limited to very low height because of being in the air with full size aircraft ( who were also flying fairly low ) . I liked it . |
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Post by harrysone on Apr 8, 2015 8:24:56 GMT 12
The Catalina Stand at Omaka, Thanks again to all those that dropped by and donated  If people missed us they can still donate on our website  www.nzcatalina.org.nz/ |
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Post by dodgy on Apr 8, 2015 8:47:48 GMT 12
They were all briefed before hand they all knew what was out there, lets not be nannies, about what in all was a great show. Long may they continue onwards and upwards I say.... Plus take the show for what it is, stop being such perfectionists.... If you are referring to the Yak-3s, there is no way that a briefing would include 'yep, feel free to fly over the crowds'. History is littered with deaths resulting from an aircraft incident that plows into the crowds. These days all turns are away from crowds and no display may fly over the crowd. I am not a nanny. I am a pilot as well and loved the show. I enjoyed seeking the Yaks fly over but the CAA and the organisers may have enjoyed it rather less. Personally, I enjoyed the V1. So, no pulse jet (with awesome sounds), but that would have made it a bugger to control and land. |
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Post by TS on Apr 8, 2015 9:31:57 GMT 12
No I am not referring to the Yak 3s flying over the crowd! I agree with you on that one. My comment is referring to the V1s launch ramp being on an active airfield. There is no way that it would have been put in the way of aircraft during their take off roll. Maybe said Harvard was a little off line??? |
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Post by ams888 on Apr 8, 2015 9:37:21 GMT 12
Hey all, I just had this link pop up on my facebook page for an article on the Daily Mail website. They are claiming that the Marlborough Express is claiming that the FW190 is "damaged beyond repair". Surely this cannot be accurate? |
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Post by Dave Homewood on Apr 8, 2015 10:51:13 GMT 12
It's bollocks. The Fw190 is certainly repairable. Once again, has anyone got the ground loop on film please?
As for the V1, that presented an amazing and unique spectacle to the audience never seen at Classic Fighters before, and never seen ANYWHERE in the world before. It was absolutely fantastic to see this huge model being flown with such skill and accuracy, and representing a very important and exceedingly evil part of WWII history in a way no other group has been able to. In fact I am not sure if a genuine WWII fighter aircraft has ever done a paired display with a large model before either. I reckon the team who worked hard to come up with a unique concept like this, design it, make it work and then put on displays that got rousing ovations from the crowd can be rightly proud of the achievement, and certainly they deserved the award they were given on Sunday evening.
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Post by kiwithrottlejockey on Apr 8, 2015 10:57:32 GMT 12
It's bollocks. The Fw190 is certainly repairable. Once again, has anyone got the ground loop on film please? It sure is. The Marlborough Express article says no such thing as claimed. It merely reports on what idiot news organisations overseas are saying. CLICK HERE to view the Marlborough Express article, which was published earlier this morning on Fairfax NZ's STUFF website. Those overseas news websites are merely publishing sensationalist bullshit. However, based on the principle that any publicity is better than no publicity, then overall the publicity is probably good for Classic Fighters, as stated by Graham Orphan in the Marlborough Express article. |
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Post by phil82 on Apr 8, 2015 10:59:14 GMT 12
I thought the V1 was pure bloody genius in conception and execution. So did all of the people who rose to their feet and applauded. It was a unique idea, and in some ways quite astounding.
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Post by ErrolC on Apr 8, 2015 10:59:56 GMT 12
Hey all, I just had this link pop up on my facebook page for an article on the Daily Mail website. They are claiming that the Marlborough Express is claiming that the FW190 is "damaged beyond repair". Surely this cannot be accurate? The captioning on that piece (which was also in the Mirror I think) got seriously scrambled. The reporting is very poor, and can't even be trusted to quote others correctly. |
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Post by phil82 on Apr 8, 2015 11:02:32 GMT 12
It's bollocks. The Fw190 is certainly repairable. Once again, has anyone got the ground loop on film please? It sure is. The Marlborough Express article says no such thing as claimed. It merely reports on what idiot news organisations overseas are saying. CLICK HERE to view the Marlborough Express article, which was published earlier this morning on Fairfax NZ's STUFF website. Those overseas news websites are merely publishing sensationalist bullshit. However, based on the principle that any publicity is better than no publicity, then overall the publicity is probably good for Classic Fighters, as stated by Graham Orphan in the Marlborough Express article. I checked the Marlborough Express for what it had actually published before I wrote in the comments section of the UK Daily Mail. What it said the ME had published was a complete fabrication, but then the DM report came out of Australia. |
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Post by lumpy on Apr 8, 2015 12:21:09 GMT 12
It's bollocks. The Fw190 is certainly repairable. Once again, has anyone got the ground loop on film please? Not on film , but I believe Peter Lewis may have a series of still shots taken through the event . |
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Post by Brett on Apr 8, 2015 12:34:28 GMT 12
The latest Albatros D.Va is absolutely gorgeous.   As is the Cessna C-195.  The highlight for me was the return of NH799.  Aerial action included the Yak display team, short a couple of members due to mechanical maladies.  Richard Hood in the Pitts S 12, who encountered some IFR conditions.  Some of the locals out for a flight.  Jim Rankin getting his carrier quals. Next stop, HMNZS Wellington?  There were three Spitfires at the show. I don’t know why Graham Orphan didn’t mention that in his commentary.  Two pilots from Jasta 11 get airborne from a war-torn field in Léchelle, 1918.  The Pither gets 33.3% airborne  A jet powered Fairchild?  Some young whippersnappers hooning around on their new-fangled Velocipedes. Note the complete lack of lights, reflectors, bells and NZS-approved helmets. If there was a footpath they probably would have been cycling on that, as well.  More hooning, this time in a company vehicle!  Bugger!  Those that want to see vintage aircraft confined to dusty museums don’t seem to understand that you can also get them dusty by flying them.  And finally, Easter may have only just finished, but the Safety Elves have already put up their Christmas decorations.   |
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Post by planecrazy on Apr 8, 2015 15:24:13 GMT 12
Thank you to all for sharing all these great pics, just a question on the V1.
Must have missed this somewhere so was the V1 a 1 to 1 scale rc replica,
and did it crash and epode as part of the show, looks great by the way!
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Post by planecrazy on Apr 8, 2015 15:27:58 GMT 12
Okay just found this amazing!
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Post by kiwithrottlejockey on Apr 8, 2015 15:51:16 GMT 12
Another one....
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Post by ErrolC on Apr 8, 2015 16:29:43 GMT 12
Thank you to all for sharing all these great pics, just a question on the V1. Must have missed this somewhere so was the V1 a 1 to 1 scale rc replica, and did it crash and epode as p[art of the show, looks great by the way! The flying one didn't explode (it landed next to the launch rail each day), but a full-size mockup did explode during the WW2 scenario each afternoon. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 8, 2015 16:48:12 GMT 12
Great photos Brett!! I'm still not sure what scale the V1s were? On reflection the flying one looked a bit small, but man oh man was it cool to see it fly! The Catalina Stand at Omaka, Thanks again to all those that dropped by and donated I popped $20 in the tin on Friday and then came back on Saturday to buy a model kit. Great to see you guys! I just wish I'd known who you were, Harry, so I could introduce myself. |
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