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Post by Dave Homewood on Dec 14, 2022 7:37:30 GMT 12
Beags suggested to me yesterday that it is now time for him to start a P-8 Poseidon Replacement thread....lol!
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Post by gibbo on Dec 14, 2022 9:08:08 GMT 12
Beags suggested to me yesterday that it is now time for him to start a P-8 Poseidon Replacement thread....lol! Easy, 2 cessnas with hand-thrown bombs... a.l.a. NZ Herald reporting standards!  |
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Post by machina on Dec 14, 2022 9:25:13 GMT 12
Beags suggested to me yesterday that it is now time for him to start a P-8 Poseidon Replacement thread....lol! A 60 year old thread would be quite a thing to see  |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2022 9:44:39 GMT 12
If not his actual words, what does this say about journalism standards of grammar? It's a press release, so it will have been someone in the minister's staff who wrote the item rather than explicitly quoting something the minister actually "said" (still a possibility). It thus says nothing about journalism standard of grammar but rather that of civil servants'. |
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Post by johnnyfalcon on Dec 14, 2022 10:21:34 GMT 12
If not his actual words, what does this say about journalism standards of grammar? It's a press release, so it will have been someone in the minister's staff who wrote the item rather than explicitly quoting something the minister actually "said" (still a possibility). It thus says nothing about journalism standard of grammar but rather that of civil servants'. All tarred with the same brush... |
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Post by Dave Homewood on Dec 14, 2022 14:02:28 GMT 12
I have just listened to a recording of Henare's speech, thanks to tbf2504, and yes, Henare did say "aircrafts".
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2022 14:06:26 GMT 12
I stand corrected! Unlike certain people  |
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Post by ErrolC on Dec 14, 2022 14:19:44 GMT 12
I stand corrected! Unlike certain people So did none of the civil servants pick up the error, or did they all decide to let the official Media Release stay as said? |
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Post by machina on Dec 14, 2022 21:32:01 GMT 12
I am pleased to announce that permission just came through from DPA to publish this new episode of The Wings Over New Zealand Show, WONZ 268 - Changing Times at No. 5 Squadron. Featuring Wing Commander Glen Donaldson (Commanding Officer of No. 5 Squadron), Flight Sergeant Tony Strugnell (Flight Engineer), Squadron Leader Paul Barrett (Maintenance Flight Commander), Flight Lieutenant Tom Peterson, (Pilot), Flying Officer Holly Graham (Air Warfare Officer) and Corporal Nikita Crookbain (Air Warfare Specialist). In this episode I visited No. 5 Squadron Royal New Zealand Air Force at RNZAF Base Whenuapai, and sat down with a group of aircrew and engineers from the squadron to talk about their experiences with the Lockheed P-3K2 Orion as the sun sets on its very long RNZAF career. And they discuss the new Boeing P-8 Poseidon that is just entering service to replace the Orions. This discussion gives a great insight into the amazing work that the Orion has done over five and a half decades for New Zealand, and also looks forward to how the now Poseidon will fulfil the roles that the Orion spent so long doing, and what is to come for the new aircraft Here is the link: cambridgeairforce.org.nz/WONZShow/2022/12/wonz-268-changing-times-at-no-5-squadron/ Dave, just finished listening to this. A great discussion, with incredible insights into 5 Squadron’s work. Even though I’m excited for the P-8, after hearing about the P-3’s real capability and how useful it is I can’t help feel some of that might be lost with the transition. A shame we can’t build new P-3s for the EMAC role!! |
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Post by Dave Homewood on Dec 14, 2022 21:40:52 GMT 12
Thanks Machina, I am glad that you enjoyed the episode. It was really neat to sit down with some of the great guys and girls of the squadron, an amazing bunch of people. Please share the link around and help to raise the show's profile.
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Post by mcmaster on Dec 15, 2022 0:34:31 GMT 12
Thx Dave enjoyed that podcast. Well described the gravity of that Christchurch quake mission recce. Also what a tough plane the P3 is no wonder it’s the one they fly into cyclones!
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Post by Dave Homewood on Dec 15, 2022 7:17:17 GMT 12
Indeed, I found that most interesting about the wing design making it so stable.
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Post by Antonio on Dec 15, 2022 8:30:54 GMT 12
From Naval News: 13th December www.navalnews.com/naval-news/2022/12/boeing-awards-contract-to-lufthansa-technik-to-support-new-zealands-p-8a-poseidon-fleet/ P-8A Poseidon MPA of New Zealand (Lufthansa Technik photo)Boeing Awards Contract To Lufthansa Technik To Support New Zealand’s P-8A Poseidon Fleet Boeing has awarded Lufthansa Technik a contract for sustainment services within its support of the Royal New Zealand Air Force’s (RNZAF) future fleet of four P-8A aircraft that will leverage commercial capabilities to improve readiness rates. he contract is for provision of Lufthansa Technik’s Total Component Support (TCS), a comprehensive component services program for the 737 covering more than four hundred commercial common parts included in the configuration of the P-8A, a military derivative of the popular airliner. Leveraging the 737 commercial market in support of P-8A international customers will allow smaller fleets easier access to necessary global supply chain inventory from the more than four thousand 737 aircraft operating today.
“Our collaboration with Lufthansa Technik is a strong example of how industry can work together to solve customer challenges and maintain high readiness rates. Our goal is to expand service offerings from a strategic German industry partner for additional P-8A customers to benefit.”
Torbjorn (Turbo) Sjogren, Boeing VP and General Manager, Government Services The TCS program provided by Lufthansa Technik allows the RNZAF to reduce investment in commercial common parts and improve aircraft readiness through access to the German company’s maintenance, repair and overhaul (MRO) global supply chain.oeing and Lufthansa Technik signed a strategic Memorandum of Understanding (MOU) in 2021 to support Germany’s P-8A Poseidon fleet. The MOU expanded to a three-party agreement with ESG Elektroniksystem- und Logistik-GmbH in 2022. “Lufthansa Technik is a longstanding partner with a long history of supporting Boeing aircraft around the world,” said Michael Haidinger, president of Boeing in Germany. “This new contract is a clear demonstration of our commitment to German industry and how we partner across the Atlantic and globally, shaping meaningful partnerships that ensure continued economic and industrial growth in Germany.”
Under Boeing’s Performance-Based Logistics (PBL) program, Lufthansa Technik also provides hardware support to the Italian fleet of Boeing KC-767A tankers and has facilitated outstanding aircraft availability for the Italian Air Force.
“As a renowned expert for Special Mission aircraft and a leading maintenance, repair and overhaul provider with decades of experience in servicing commercial Boeing 737s, we are delighted to soon start servicing New Zealand’s Poseidon fleet. The strong partnership with Boeing enables us to offer the best possible service level over the entire life cycle of the aircraft. We are very much looking forward to further cooperation with our partners in Germany and beyond.”
Michael von Puttkamer, VP Special Aircraft Services at Lufthansa Technik In July 2018, the government of New Zealand announced the purchase of four P-8A Poseidon aircraft to replace their aging fleet of P-3K2 maritime patrol aircraft. The first P-8A to New Zealand was delivered December 2022, with three remaining aircraft to be delivered in 2023. Deployed around the world with 155 aircraft delivered or in service, and more than 450,000 collective, mishap free flight hours, the P-8A is vital for global anti-submarine warfare, intelligence, surveillance and reconnaissance and search-and-rescue operations. |
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Post by obiwan27 on Dec 15, 2022 11:46:35 GMT 12
Really enjoying the podcast interview with the 5 Sqn crew. I think some interviews with Operational units would add an extra dimension to your podcasts in future Dave, when time of all involved aligns.
It's very informative for us aviation enthusiasts, but I feel for the general public also, much more so that the general MSM, that on the whole tend not to cut the mustard when it comes to our Defence Force.
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Post by machina on Dec 15, 2022 12:09:06 GMT 12
From Naval News: 13th December www.navalnews.com/naval-news/2022/12/boeing-awards-contract-to-lufthansa-technik-to-support-new-zealands-p-8a-poseidon-fleet/P-8A Poseidon MPA of New Zealand (Lufthansa Technik photo)Boeing Awards Contract To Lufthansa Technik To Support New Zealand’s P-8A Poseidon Fleet Boeing has awarded Lufthansa Technik a contract for sustainment services within its support of the Royal New Zealand Air Force’s (RNZAF) future fleet of four P-8A aircraft that will leverage commercial capabilities to improve readiness rates. he contract is for provision of Lufthansa Technik’s Total Component Support (TCS), a comprehensive component services program for the 737 covering more than four hundred commercial common parts included in the configuration of the P-8A, a military derivative of the popular airliner. Leveraging the 737 commercial market in support of P-8A international customers will allow smaller fleets easier access to necessary global supply chain inventory from the more than four thousand 737 aircraft operating today.
“Our collaboration with Lufthansa Technik is a strong example of how industry can work together to solve customer challenges and maintain high readiness rates. Our goal is to expand service offerings from a strategic German industry partner for additional P-8A customers to benefit.”
Torbjorn (Turbo) Sjogren, Boeing VP and General Manager, Government Services The TCS program provided by Lufthansa Technik allows the RNZAF to reduce investment in commercial common parts and improve aircraft readiness through access to the German company’s maintenance, repair and overhaul (MRO) global supply chain.oeing and Lufthansa Technik signed a strategic Memorandum of Understanding (MOU) in 2021 to support Germany’s P-8A Poseidon fleet. The MOU expanded to a three-party agreement with ESG Elektroniksystem- und Logistik-GmbH in 2022. “Lufthansa Technik is a longstanding partner with a long history of supporting Boeing aircraft around the world,” said Michael Haidinger, president of Boeing in Germany. “This new contract is a clear demonstration of our commitment to German industry and how we partner across the Atlantic and globally, shaping meaningful partnerships that ensure continued economic and industrial growth in Germany.”
Under Boeing’s Performance-Based Logistics (PBL) program, Lufthansa Technik also provides hardware support to the Italian fleet of Boeing KC-767A tankers and has facilitated outstanding aircraft availability for the Italian Air Force.
“As a renowned expert for Special Mission aircraft and a leading maintenance, repair and overhaul provider with decades of experience in servicing commercial Boeing 737s, we are delighted to soon start servicing New Zealand’s Poseidon fleet. The strong partnership with Boeing enables us to offer the best possible service level over the entire life cycle of the aircraft. We are very much looking forward to further cooperation with our partners in Germany and beyond.”
Michael von Puttkamer, VP Special Aircraft Services at Lufthansa Technik In July 2018, the government of New Zealand announced the purchase of four P-8A Poseidon aircraft to replace their aging fleet of P-3K2 maritime patrol aircraft. The first P-8A to New Zealand was delivered December 2022, with three remaining aircraft to be delivered in 2023. Deployed around the world with 155 aircraft delivered or in service, and more than 450,000 collective, mishap free flight hours, the P-8A is vital for global anti-submarine warfare, intelligence, surveillance and reconnaissance and search-and-rescue operations. Excuse my ignorance but what does this translate to in real life? Will our P-8s be off to Germany for certain maintenance or what? |
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Post by Dave Homewood on Dec 15, 2022 12:52:37 GMT 12
Excuse my ignorance but what does this translate to in real life? Will our P-8s be off to Germany for certain maintenance or what? No, from what I saw stated on Facebook yesterday it simply means the RNZAF has joined a spares pool contract. Not aircraft maintenance. |
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Post by Dave Homewood on Dec 15, 2022 13:03:02 GMT 12
Really enjoying the podcast interview with the 5 Sqn crew. I think some interviews with Operational units would add an extra dimension to your podcasts in future Dave, when time of all involved aligns. It's very informative for us aviation enthusiasts, but I feel for the general public also, much more so that the general MSM, that on the whole tend not to cut the mustard when it come to our Defence Force. Thank you Ken. I appreciate that. I do try to get a more broad and accurate, in-depth picture when interviewing people than the average article or news item provides. I am certainly keen to do more with the RNZAF operational units, if they are happy to do that. But be aware, such arrangements are not straight forward. I first approached the squadrons with the idea of meeting with personnel and recording some shows in January 2022, and the recordings were finally done in November 2022. Much of that revolved around the access restrictions to the base due to the virus, but also several extra months went by while we tried to tee up a time when staff were available. Even on the day there were a coupe of last minute changes in the line ups, thanks to staff being called away to other work. But pleasingly I did get both C.O.'s and two great bunches of people. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2022 16:25:54 GMT 12
So did none of the civil servants pick up the error, or did they all decide to let the official Media Release stay as said? Looks like it. Were it me I'd have added a [sic] after the offending word but I suspect that's not a great idea in government stuff! |
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Post by baz62 on Dec 15, 2022 17:37:13 GMT 12
87 months after starting this thread... finally the first aircraft to replace the P3K2 has arrived. beagle, who's he, where's he been.... Hey Mr Beagle glad to see you on here. Where did you go?  |
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Post by machina on Dec 15, 2022 17:58:24 GMT 12
May have missed it but when can we expect to see the new girl flying?
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