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Post by Dave Homewood on Apr 4, 2018 0:06:05 GMT 12
There were two Hawks on the Thursday. I think the second one was just for moral support rather than part of the act.
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Post by Mustang51 on Apr 4, 2018 8:59:11 GMT 12
Hmmmmmm Hairy chested single seat highly manoeuvrable multi role fighter Vs Two seat lead-in fighter trainer............
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Post by Dave Homewood on Apr 4, 2018 9:48:43 GMT 12
I thought both jet types were very cool. I'd not be unhappy if we got some BAe Hawks in NZ.
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Post by kiwithrottlejockey on Apr 4, 2018 11:58:33 GMT 12
Somebody has uploaded to YouTube a great piece of footage of the F-16s departing Christchurch Airport on Easter Monday, heading back to Japan....
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Post by skyhawkdon on Apr 4, 2018 12:05:45 GMT 12
Very cool video. I heard that the second F-16 pilot got into a wee bit of trouble for some low flying he did while he was here! Apparently a complaint was made to the CAA by some tourist operators around Mt Cook and on the West Coast after they were beaten up by him...
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Post by skyhawkdon on Apr 4, 2018 12:07:26 GMT 12
When the two Hawks departed Queenstown on Monday morning one of them returned shortly after with a problem, followed about half an hour later by the second one. Both departed again mid afternoon.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2018 12:08:05 GMT 12
I'd like to say thank you to everyone who was there and has taken the time to share their thoughts, stories and images with those of us unable to attend. There have already been many photos shared here that have shown me that I may have made a mistake in not going! Thank you all.
It sounds like this milestone show was a success and a very enjoyable event so congratulations to the organisers, volunteers and crews who were responsible for ensuring safe activity over the weekend.
Gavin: congratulations on the F-16 idea. When I first read it I thought it was a stroke of genius!
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Post by kiwithrottlejockey on Apr 4, 2018 12:35:29 GMT 12
I haven't even started to look through my photographs yet. Monday was a full day as I drove over to Jackson Bay with a friend for lunch at The Craypot (we met up with nuuumannn at Jackson Bay …… he was enroute home to Nelson via an overnight stop at Hokitika), where we each ordered a huge whitebait pattie (it was litterally ALL whitebait with a tiny smidgeon of egg binding it together), accompanied with salad and chips; then my friend and I drove right down to the road-end in the Cascade Valley, before returning to Wanaka. Yesterday, I spent travelling home (rental car to Queenstown Airport with a stop at the Cardrona Hotel for brunch, flight to Wellington, then train to Masterton), and today is a day of rest and recovery from a full-on weekend.
I had three Canon SLR camera bodies with me at the airshow (two crop-frames and one full-frame) along with five lenses and I probably took around three-to-three-and-a-half-thousand photographs. Based on past experience, I'll probably end up deleting 95% of those when I look through them closely and it will probably take a few weeks to go right through them.
It was though, as usual, a very enjoyable weekend. I realise Warbirds Over Wanaka reached its peak back during the mid-to-late 1990s and early 2000s, and that the mantle of “best three-day regular airshow” has shifted to elsewhere (mostly Classic Fighters, but occasionally Wings Over Wairarapa), but it is still a great occasion set amongst amazingly beautiful surroundings and I love my two-yearly trips down there, not just to attend the airshow, but also because of the many great friends I have made at Wanaka over the years and who I continue to meet up with at Wanaka every two years. There were a few unfortunate no-shows this year (the engine troubles with the I-16 resulted in it not being able to attend; and the two Hood-basted WWII fighters which are tied up in legal hassles at the moment), but it still didn't detract from the atmosphere of what is a great biannual event. Long may it continue.
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Post by nuuumannn on Apr 4, 2018 13:59:52 GMT 12
Hear hear Bruce, enjoyed the Craypot very much. Great idea. Nice to meet you and Mark. Question for anyone, what was the F-16 pilot's name? This guy?  DSC_1277 |
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Post by nuuumannn on Apr 4, 2018 14:27:03 GMT 12
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Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2018 14:27:24 GMT 12
I believe he's Richard Smeeding, aka Punch. And some cool pics there Grant, I love the one of the Cat among the boats and of Graeme and Full Noise.
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Post by nuuumannn on Apr 4, 2018 14:49:49 GMT 12
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Post by Brett on Apr 4, 2018 15:16:03 GMT 12
Is that the Minister of Defence catching a taxi?
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Post by nuuumannn on Apr 4, 2018 15:32:01 GMT 12
No, it's Shane Jones' new regional air service...
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Post by TS on Apr 4, 2018 16:48:49 GMT 12
Ha!! he has no head for heights that's for sure. Just another polly.... Great Photo's by the way.  |
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Post by johnnyfalcon on Apr 4, 2018 16:50:25 GMT 12
Looks like somebody's head rolled for misuse of taxpayer dollars...
That KC-135 looked H...E...A...V...Y. What a cool looking bird though. Are these really old 707 airframes?
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Post by kiwithrottlejockey on Apr 4, 2018 17:33:19 GMT 12
That KC-135 looked H...E...A...V...Y. What a cool looking bird though. Are these really old 707 airframes? I understand the Boeing C-135 and KC-135 airframes were originally designated by Boeing as model 717, as opposed to the 707 which had a wider fuselage cross-section. However, they have been through a serious refit at some point during their lives, including the fitting of newer engines — they were originally fitted with the miltary version (J-57) of the non-bypass JT3C “civil turbojets” which also powered the first 707s, but with water injection for takeoff (the early civil 707s also had the option of water-injection for takeoff). The history behind the discrepency in fuselage cross-sections is an interesting one. The Boeing Dash 80 concept airframe, which was effectively the prototype of the 707 (and the K/C-135), had a much narrower fuselage, and that was intended to be the production width. However, Juan Trippe of Pan American Airways, the launch customer, played Douglas off against Boeing to get a wider fuselage which could seat six-abreast instead of the original five-abreast. Boeing thought they were getting the sole contract for supply of four-engined jet airliners to Pan American and they had refused to re-design the airframe to accommodate the greater width; however Juan Trippe had been secretly negotiating with Donald Douglas, who agreed to produce a fuselage wide enough for six-abreast seating, so when Trippe publicly announced he had signed a contract with Boeing for 20 model 707 jetliners and with Douglas for 25 model DC-8 jetliners, Boeing suddenly realised they were going to lose-out big-time to Douglas in subsequent orders unless they gave Trippe what he wanted. However, as they were already tooling up to produce C-135 and KC-135 airframes for the USAF, they kept the narrower fuselage for the military transports and tankers, but developed a newer, wider (and longer) fuselage for the civil 707 versions. Two very interesting books were published more than 3½-decades ago; both were biographies about Juan Trippe and Pan American. The first, published in 1980 is “ An American Saga — Juan Trippe and His Pan Am Empire” by Robert Daley; the second, published in 1982 is “ The Chosen Instrument — Juan Trippe and Pan Am — The Rise and Fall of an American Entrepreneur” by Marylin Bender and Selig Altschul. I've got copies of both books and they are very large tombs running to over 600 pages each, with each book devoting several chapters to the start of the jet age and the intense negotiations which went on before the first 707s and DC-8s were produced and delivered to Pan Am. If you want to know more, I'll start a fresh thread in the appropriate messageboard. EDIT: For more info about the KC-135 Stratotanker, CLICK HERE. |
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Post by haughtney1 on Apr 5, 2018 2:55:23 GMT 12
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Post by nuuumannn on Apr 5, 2018 4:52:20 GMT 12
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Post by baz62 on Apr 5, 2018 11:45:57 GMT 12
 DSC_0646 I enjoyed watching Bevan's displays. Johnnyfalcon and I both thought Bevan handled the Chipmunk very smoothly. Unfortunately most of the crowd would just see an aeroplane going upside down and rolling around but to us he made the aerobatics look easy and they were smoothly done. Well flown Bevan! |
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