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Post by thebrads on Oct 31, 2019 5:11:45 GMT 12
we use to have chairs like that on the leanders in the Ops Room... don't recall it ever causing any uses... So speaking of the Leanders in NZ service. What was the good and bad with that class? Sea keeping/handling was good, as they were part of a long running family designed for the North Atlantic. Range was one issue. Regular refueling required. Akld-Sydney was about the limit under normal steaming (on CY anyway), going any further required alternative steaming practices (i.e. one boiler shut down). Hence towing the trailer everywhere. (Endeavour). (Wellington had extra fuel tanks at the expense of stores/small spaces, Southland may have too but Im not sure).
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Post by nighthawknz on Nov 2, 2019 11:09:32 GMT 12
The Mighty Y had a good dollop of concrete as she became top heavy after after the re-arranging of the hangar and sea-cat and a few other mods were done to her. She had a extended hangar to fit the Lynx Helo, The SeaCat re-positioned with the director up higher and on a added compartment. It was just enough to de-balance her. On the odd occassion she would roll like a bitch and then come right... :-)
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Post by nighthawknz on Nov 2, 2019 11:22:45 GMT 12
we use to have chairs like that on the leanders in the Ops Room... don't recall it ever causing any uses... So speaking of the Leanders in NZ service. What was the good and bad with that class? The NZ ones were behind the times with tech even when we got them, the sonars were old tech and for Sub Hunting class of vessel ...well... They were like our current frigates too lightly armed, and the search radars were just as old even when they upgraded to the LW-08 from the 965. However they were sea worthy and they were a hell of a lot of fun to serve on...
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Post by nighthawknz on Nov 25, 2019 15:11:30 GMT 12
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Post by nighthawknz on Dec 1, 2019 12:03:00 GMT 12
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Post by tfly on Dec 2, 2019 1:40:27 GMT 12
Looks like a miniature model of the Auckland Sky Tower on the top! 😂
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Post by mcmaster on Dec 2, 2019 9:41:43 GMT 12
Hopefully sea trials have started.
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Post by mcmaster on Feb 13, 2020 23:51:45 GMT 12
Is anyone in NZ starting to ask what is going on with these frigates? It’s been nearly 2 years for Te Kaha off being upgraded.
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Post by nighthawknz on Feb 14, 2020 6:24:11 GMT 12
Is anyone in NZ starting to ask what is going on with these frigates? It’s been nearly 2 years for Te Kaha off being upgraded. Apparently been delayed again and Te Kaha will be ready end of year...the internals is taking longer than expected... some one got the USB cables mix up lol
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Post by mcmaster on Feb 14, 2020 18:20:28 GMT 12
Is anyone in NZ starting to ask what is going on with these frigates? It’s been nearly 2 years for Te Kaha off being upgraded. Apparently been delayed again and Te Kaha will be ready end of year...the internals is taking longer than expected... some one got the USB cables mix up lol Thx thought it might be "plumbing issues". Must play havoc with crew currency basically standing down the NZ ANZAC crews for nearly 3 years. Original expectations was 9 months! In hindsight NZ shoulda rented a RAN FFG.
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Post by dgd911 on Feb 14, 2020 22:31:48 GMT 12
Thx thought it might be "plumbing issues". Must play havoc with crew currency basically standing down the NZ ANZAC crews for nearly 3 years. Original expectations was 9 months! In hindsight NZ shoulda rented a RAN FFG. Good point concerning the frigate crews. That’s between 300 and 400 sailors, does stand down mean most of them have left the navy, voluntarily or forced to retire? Apart from a few being trained do the rest report to DNB for daily square bashing, wash down DNB, repaint rocks and static stuff? Surely none are set to debarnacleing and painting active ships? When I think about it there must be way more than 400 sailors stuck on land as don’t we only have very few ships that can go to sea? Two IPVs Two OPVs and Canterbury, everything else unavailable. Even then the five ‘active’ vessels seem to spend much time moored up at DNB. Can we really say we have a navy 😀
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Post by chasper on Feb 15, 2020 12:47:02 GMT 12
The issue is with the cabling. When the contract was first given to the Canadian yard a NZ company that had significant experience with the ANZACs approached them and offered them a software system that manages the cabling but the yard declined and was comfortable with their paper based system. Needless to say this NZ company has now been engaged to help sort the mess out.
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Post by nighthawknz on Feb 15, 2020 13:46:44 GMT 12
The issue is with the cabling. When the contract was first given to the Canadian yard a NZ company that had significant experience with the ANZACs approached them and offered them a software system that manages the cabling but the yard declined and was comfortable with their paper based system. Needless to say this NZ company has now been engaged to help sort the mess out. So like I said they got the USB cables mixed up... lol
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Post by oj on Feb 16, 2020 19:40:20 GMT 12
Chasper, A lot of the original cabling was done in Hamilton by PACL and MacArthur Electrical. To whom do you refer?
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Post by chasper on Feb 17, 2020 16:52:36 GMT 12
A Whangarei based company, not sure if they want their name out there but they are very well known for their naval work.
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Post by tnos on Feb 22, 2020 19:37:22 GMT 12
9 months was massively underestimated by MOD NZDF and the Canadians.
HMAS Arunta just took 20 months to finish her phase 4 of midlife upgrade in Australia with people who know the ships inside and out, without having to sail to the other side of the pacific. They were always dreaming with 9 months.
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Post by madmac on Feb 25, 2020 20:51:35 GMT 12
Given where Corina Virus is going (containment failure), the Navy might better off to tow them back soon otherwise it might be years if ever before the work is completed.
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Post by nighthawknz on Feb 26, 2020 17:26:56 GMT 12
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Post by tfly on Mar 11, 2020 8:32:49 GMT 12
Meanwhile here in the UK (minding my own business) and watching S4E4 of ‘Great American Railway Journeys’ with Michael Portillo and look what popped up in the background! 🙃
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Post by mcmaster on Mar 11, 2020 19:00:10 GMT 12
Meanwhile here in the UK (minding my own business) and watching S4E4 of ‘Great American Railway Journeys’ with Michael Portillo and look what popped up in the background! 🙃 Did his Bradshaws Guide say anything about the entire NZ frigate fleet being stuck there sorting out wiring. 😉
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