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Post by mcmaster on Feb 20, 2019 10:32:45 GMT 12
Regarding embarking a Helicopter,would it be possible to fit the flight deck with some type of inflatable hangar? Probably not enough space and too exposed up front anyway? |
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Post by gibbo on Feb 20, 2019 17:01:53 GMT 12
Regarding embarking a Helicopter,would it be possible to fit the flight deck with some type of inflatable hangar? Probably not enough space and too exposed up front anyway? Inflatable no... not unless it's got a sturdy solid frame as it is super-critical the hangar (skin or frame) does not come into contact with the chopper even if it tucked away out of use - can't compromise the airframe. It'd simply be too exposed for anything not fully solid and frankly there isn't the room nor it seems RNZN desire to add one. |
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Post by kiwiruna on Feb 20, 2019 17:48:54 GMT 12
Hi Guys,
Thanks for the replies I figured that this might have been the answer, It was just the conversation got me thinking. Me and thinking dangerous.
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Post by gibbo on Feb 20, 2019 20:26:56 GMT 12
Hi Guys, Thanks for the replies I figured that this might have been the answer, It was just the conversation got me thinking. Me and thinking dangerous. Actually your question wasn't as silly as you might think... www.buildair.com/hangars/Yes there are inflatable hangars but as you'll see it's their lack of suitability for a scenario like Edda Fonn / Manawanui that counts them out. In fact there's these that could be a closer shot www.igus.eu/info/vector-2012-helicopter-hangar ... but again I think the space (not) available is the killer along with the fact any hangar structure on this vessel could seriously impede forward visibility. |
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Post by kiwirob on Feb 20, 2019 23:46:09 GMT 12
On an offshore vessel like this the flight deck is mostly used for crew and supply transfers, they never have a helicopter based onboard.
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Post by nighthawknz on Feb 28, 2019 16:48:20 GMT 12
Getting ready. In these latest drone images of our future Dive Hydro Vessel, beside sister ship Edda Frende, we can see the new superstructure is now complete. Sea trials are set for next month. Despite the paint job the ship has a freshly painted ‘Edda Fonn’ on its side, as the ship will stay under that name until delivered to New Zealand in May.  Still need to name her... RNZN FaceBook Page |
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Post by kiwiruna on Feb 28, 2019 18:31:21 GMT 12
Is she being fitted for/with any weapon systems?
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Post by gibbo on Mar 1, 2019 16:05:25 GMT 12
Is she being fitted for/with any weapon systems? In this doc there is the briefest of mentions: www.defence.govt.nz/assets/Uploads/2018-Dive-and-Hydrographic-Vessel.pdf (link may not work) I'd say look on pg1 but there's more than one Pg 1!  ...search for 'weapon'. All it says is: Defence would add commercial dive and hydrographic systems, military
communications, weapon mounts and armoury to the vessel, to provide a contemporary
replacement for Resolution and Manawanui. |
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Post by nighthawknz on Mar 1, 2019 17:08:18 GMT 12
will be a couple of manual .50cal mounts and that about that...
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Post by gibbo on Mar 1, 2019 17:53:19 GMT 12
will be a couple of manual .50cal mounts and that about that... Yes I'm expecting so...even 3-4 of them to cover 360 degree surface cover would be an improvement. |
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Post by tfly on Mar 2, 2019 8:20:50 GMT 12
Getting ready. In these latest drone images of our future Dive Hydro Vessel, beside sister ship Edda Frende, we can see the new superstructure is now complete. Sea trials are set for next month. Despite the paint job the ship has a freshly painted ‘Edda Fonn’ on its side, as the ship will stay under that name until delivered to New Zealand in May. Still need to name her... RNZN FaceBook PageCan anyone in the navy field enlighten me? I notice some RNZN ships have a black cheat line between the red anti fouling and the grey hull and some don’t, is there any logical reason for these differences throughout the fleet? The Edda Fonn appears to be red to grey, the ANZAC’s red to one shade of grey and then another shade of grey and the IPV/OPV/MRV fleet go from red to black to grey! I would have thought they would all be similar? Interested to hear if these is any logical reason for the differences? |
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Post by nighthawknz on Mar 2, 2019 8:53:35 GMT 12
Can anyone in the navy field enlighten me? I notice some RNZN ships have a black cheat line between the red anti fouling and the grey hull and some don’t, is there any logical reason for these differences throughout the fleet? The Edda Fonn appears to be red to grey, the ANZAC’s red to one shade of grey and then another shade of grey and the IPV/OPV/MRV fleet go from red to black to grey! I would have thought they would all be similar? Interested to hear if these is any logical reason for the differences? Don't quote me on this... as for the grey... the navy was slowly moving to the Aussie Grey a few years back once they use all the grey they had in stock Which has more of a blue green tinge to it... As for your so called cheat line  lol... not really sure why there is a difference could be Barry did Te Kaha and Jovän did Manawanui |
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Post by Bruce on Mar 2, 2019 12:55:58 GMT 12
Can anyone in the navy field enlighten me? I notice some RNZN ships have a black cheat line between the red anti fouling and the grey hull and some don’t, is there any logical reason for these differences throughout the fleet? The Edda Fonn appears to be red to grey, the ANZAC’s red to one shade of grey and then another shade of grey and the IPV/OPV/MRV fleet go from red to black to grey! I would have thought they would all be similar? Interested to hear if these is any logical reason for the differences? Don't quote me on this... as for the grey... the navy was slowly moving to the Aussie Grey a few years back once they use all the grey they had in stock Which has more of a blue green tinge to it... As for your so called cheat line lol... not really sure why there is a difference could be Barry did Te Kaha and Jovän did Manawanui My theory (very much as a "landlubber") is that its the Navy equivalent of low-contrast roundels. The ANZACs are combat vessels so bright colours are all toned down and therefore the band between max and min loading (which is I guess an important visual indicator) should be painted a more "camouflagey" colour. The OPVs and IPVs etc still need to look warlike but neat, crisp presentation is also important since they are in the local public eye a lot. I did wonder why Edda Fohn doesnt have a black band, but maybe that will come later... |
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Post by gibbo on Mar 9, 2019 23:22:12 GMT 12
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Post by nighthawknz on Mar 15, 2019 15:44:24 GMT 12
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Post by navymllad on Mar 15, 2019 23:11:37 GMT 12
Quite a big vessel then - always hard to tell from photos! |
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Post by nighthawknz on Apr 1, 2019 19:41:25 GMT 12
New Zealand Navy’s new diving support vessel starts journey from NorwayThe Royal New Zealand Navy’s new diving and hydrographic support vessel has started her journey from Norway to Auckland, New Zealand. Formerly known as offshore support vessel MV Edda Fonn, the vessel was sold by Norway’s Østensjø Rederi to the New Zealand Navy in August 2018. The vessel was modified for navy needs and was repainted from a bright yellow to navy grey. Edda Fonn completed sea trials earlier this month before sailing to her new home. Once in New Zealand, the vessel will be commissioned as HMNZS Manawanui and will undergo final modifications before entering service by November 2019. The New Zealand Navy was initially scheduled to receive a custom, new-build vessel but an NZ$148 million cost blowout in the country’s frigate upgrade project forced the government to consider a used vessel. Defense officials identified Edda Fonn as the most suitable option from an initial list of over 150 candidate offshore and subsea support vessels. The vessel will be homeported in Gisborne and will replace the decommissioned dive tender HMNZS Manawanui and hydrographic survey ship HMNZS Resolution. navaltoday.com/2019/03/29/new-zealand-navys-new-diving-support-vessel-starts-journey-from-norway/
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Post by Bruce on Apr 1, 2019 19:55:11 GMT 12
The vessel was modified for navy needs and was repainted from a bright yellow to navy grey.
Yellow? some of it was, but most was Orange - Red... at least thats what I would call it.... |
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Post by nighthawknz on Apr 1, 2019 23:14:43 GMT 12
The vessel was modified for navy needs and was repainted from a bright yellow to navy grey.
Yellow? some of it was, but most was Orange - Red... at least thats what I would call it....  I would say it was a half and half... lol |
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Post by nighthawknz on Apr 4, 2019 16:37:14 GMT 12
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...search for 'weapon'.
lol... not really sure why there is a difference could be Barry did Te Kaha and Jovän did Manawanui
