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Post by Dave Homewood on Aug 25, 2019 20:13:08 GMT 12
Did that Air Freight business stem from the Feildair DC-3's that used to fly Freight across Cook Strait back in the 1980's? The colour scheme looks the same.
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Post by delticman on Aug 25, 2019 20:32:36 GMT 12
Did that Air Freight business stem from the Feildair DC-3's that used to fly Freight across Cook Strait back in the 1980's? The colour scheme looks the same. It's a little complicated but it's centred around contracts. On the attached site is how it starts with Fieldair. There is two Items on Fieldair Freight. 3rdlevelnz.blogspot.com/search?q=FIELDAIR+FREIGHT |
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Post by hardyakka on Aug 25, 2019 23:19:29 GMT 12
ZK-KFU Convair 580, Constructed as CV 340 (c/n 17), September 1952 for United Airlines. Converted to CV 440 1960, converted to CV 580 in 1966. Operated by Airfreight NZ from April 1995. Destroyed in crash 3rd October 2003, no survivors A friend of mine was a good friend of one of the pilots killed in this crash. Apparently he was an ag pilot with thousands of hours in Fletchers etc. He decided that he had done enough low-level dangerous flying and wanted a change to a more “cushy” job as an airline pilot to take him through to retirement. Ironic and tragic at the same time... |
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Post by planewriting on Aug 26, 2019 8:22:57 GMT 12
Did that Air Freight business stem from the Feildair DC-3's that used to fly Freight across Cook Strait back in the 1980's? The colour scheme looks the same. It's a little complicated but it's centred around contracts. On the attached site is how it starts with Fieldair. There is two Items on Fieldair Freight. 3rdlevelnz.blogspot.com/search?q=FIELDAIR+FREIGHTI read Dave's initial comment before seeing Delticman's and immediately looked at the Convair livery. What I noticed, for the first time, was that the tail displays the Fieldair strangled goose, so yes, I would say it definitely stems from Fieldair Freight's DC-3 livery |
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Post by harrysone on Aug 26, 2019 8:38:43 GMT 12
I'll post some more photos of "KFC-5800" ZK-KFS later today, there are some good ones that Mike has that demonstrate the size difference over the standard CV-580 and different engines/prop combinations. Apparently both 5800 aircraft that were converted have worn the rego C-FKFS over time, this makes the aircraft histories confusing to track, 'KFS is now C-GKFS. Here is a bit of a summary of the Kelowna Flightcraft CV-5800 program, apparently only two airframes were ever produced. www.ruudleeuw.com/cv5800.htmKelowna are the Type Certificate Holder for all of the Convair Prop-liners www.kfaero.ca/maintenance-and-engineering/convair/modification |
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Post by delticman on Aug 26, 2019 10:20:35 GMT 12
I'll post some more photos of "KFC-5800" ZK-KFS later today, there are some good ones that Mike has that demonstrate the size difference over the standard CV-580 and different engines/prop combinations. Apparently both 5800 aircraft that were converted have worn the rego C-FKFS over time, this makes the aircraft histories confusing to track, 'KFS is now C-GKFS. Here is a bit of a summary of the Kelowna Flightcraft CV-5800 program, apparently only two airframes were ever produced. www.ruudleeuw.com/cv5800.htmKelowna are the Type Certificate Holder for all of the Convair Prop-liners www.kfaero.ca/maintenance-and-engineering/convair/modificationThose lucky enough to ride in the Chat's Convairs is that they have Rolls Royce badges on the cowlings. |
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Post by harrysone on Aug 26, 2019 10:55:37 GMT 12
LOL, I love corporate takeovers/buyouts in aviation, that's how you wind up with such aircraft listings as "Boeing DC-4s" (have seen that at least once  ) |
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Post by delticman on Aug 26, 2019 11:10:28 GMT 12
ZK-KFH: Convair 580, constructed as CV 340 January 1953 for United Airlines (c/n 42) as N73122. Converted to CV 580 in 1967. Converted to freighter by Kelowna Flightcraft 1993. Registered in NZ as ZK-KFH in March 1997 to Airfreight NZ/Fieldair Ltd. On 20th August 2016, Airfreight NZ ceased to operate, ZK-KFH was sold to Air Chatham's Ltd. It was used for a period as a pure freighter during 2017, it has subsequently been subject of parts reclamation by Air Chatham's. Here is 'KFH in another life: www.aerialvisuals.ca/Airframe/Gallery/0/81/0000081443.jpg with United Airlines The final disposal of ZK-KFH www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12242978 KFH_1 by Harry Follas, on Flickr ZK-KFH with ZK-KFL, at NZAA June, 2006  KFH_2 by Harry Follas, on Flickr KFH: January 2008 |
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Post by delticman on Aug 26, 2019 11:17:42 GMT 12
Harry, to complete your postings, get in tough with Air Chathams. I'm sure they will give you the dates of the last flights.
ZK-KFH. When taken over by Ai Chathams is was parked on the Island for the fish runs. It is last reported on Flight Aware as flying in July 2018 but I'm sure is was on the Auckland Christchurch night run until Christmas 2018.
ZK-CIF. Made it's last flight in March I think but I'm not sure of the date.
Ray.
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Post by harrysone on Aug 26, 2019 11:41:54 GMT 12
No Worries Ray, I'll follow up re the dates.
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Post by scrooge on Aug 26, 2019 11:43:08 GMT 12
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Post by harrysone on Aug 26, 2019 13:13:23 GMT 12
ZK-KFS photos at NZAA:  KFS_1 by Harry Follas, on Flickr Note the rounded Hamilton Standard props (same as the P-3 Orion) rather than the Aeroproducts propellers used on the CV 580. The prop spinner is also larger  KFS_A by Harry Follas, on Flickr  KFS_3 by Harry Follas, on Flickr You can see in the last photo, the KFC 5800 conversion retained the shorter, original tail of the CV 340/440 |
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Post by flyinkiwi on Aug 26, 2019 15:31:31 GMT 12
 Chipping in with this photo of ZK-CIE taken shortly before departing NZAA for Yealands Classic Fighters 2019 at NZOM. |
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Post by harrysone on Aug 26, 2019 17:14:41 GMT 12
OK next in line... ZK-CID CV-580: MSN 385, Convair 440 delivered to Branff International Airways as N3435 December 1956. Converted to CV-580 in January 1967. Converted to Freighter by Kelowna Flightcraft in August 1990. Registered to Air Chathams September 2004. In storage and scavenged for parts from 2007 and eventually scrapped at Palmerston North in January 2014. Air Chathams third Convair 580 purchase (from DHL, Bahrain), A pure freighter ZK-CID was originally purchased for use on Pacific routes from Tonga to Niue with Reef Air. It was intended to convert the aircraft to another combi (similar to CIB). However the service did not eventuate, the combi conversion never took place and the aircraft was only used briefly on freight services to the Chatham Islands. CID spent a considerable time in storage (initially at Mangere and then at Palmerston North), gradually shedding engines and parts to support ZK-CIB. As N5826 a passenger CV-580 with Allegheny Airlines live.staticflickr.com/4232/34275986584_c9baa24771_b.jpgWith DHL imgproc.airliners.net/photos/airliners/0/7/0/1826070.jpg?v=v40ZK-CID's demise: 3.bp.blogspot.com/-vuvLvHTGMIw/UtSy2L-QIzI/AAAAAAAAWAY/5WOswA9JKYM/s1600/20140114_153912.jpg CID_1 by Harry Follas, on Flickr CID and CIB together at NZAA, August 2005  CID_2 by Harry Follas, on Flickr Activity on the flight deck, CID sometime during winter of 2005. CID never wore Air Chathams titles. |
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Post by Peter Lewis on Aug 26, 2019 17:39:23 GMT 12
ZK-CID At Auckland International  At Palmerston North 28Dec2009 |
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Post by harrysone on Aug 26, 2019 17:48:52 GMT 12
ZK-CIE CV-580: MSN 399, Convair 440 delivered to Union Oil Company of California as N98G in March 1957. Converted to CV-580 in November 1961. Registered ZK-CIE to Air Chathams 13 June 2005. Current with Air Chathams in 2019. Passenger only aircraft, CIE & CIF were both purchased from Alaska based Era Aviation with prospect of services in the Pacific. Both CIE and CIF were operated for periods with Peau Vavau and Chathams Pacific on Tongan and Pacific routes. Both have also provided backup for the Chatham Island Service and CIE will likely be operating the new Norfolk Island service in 2019. As a Corporate CV-580 with Gulf Oil Corporation in 1967 www.aerialvisuals.ca/Airframe/Gallery/0/77/0000077371.jpg CIE_1 by Harry Follas, on Flickr CIE at NZAA sans titles  CIE_2 by Harry Follas, on Flickr CIE at Wanaka, 2006...nice view of the folding air-stair  CIE_3 by Harry Follas, on Flickr CIE on short finals NZAA |
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Post by harrysone on Aug 26, 2019 18:02:42 GMT 12
ZK-CIF CV-580: MSN 381, Convair 440 delivered to Sabena as OO-SCT in December 1956. Converted to CV-580 in September 1968. Registered ZK-CIF to Air Chathams September 2005. Retired from service with Air Chathams earlier in 2019, in storage. Passenger only aircraft, CIE & CIF were both purchased from Alaska based Era Aviation with prospect of services in the Pacific. Both CIE and CIF were operated for periods with Peau Vavau and Chathams Pacific on Tongan and Pacific routes. Both have also provided backup for the Chatham Island Service. CIF was grounded earlier in 2019 and appears to be undergoing process of parts reclamation. With Sabena in 1963: www.airhistory.net/photo/107942/OO-SCT CIF_A by Harry Follas, on Flickr CIF in Hybrid Era scheme with no titles, shortly after it first arrived in New Zealand.  CIF_T2 by Harry Follas, on Flickr CIF with Chathams Pacific, arriving at Vavau, Tonga in November 2011  CIF_T1 by Harry Follas, on Flickr Tonga November 2011  IMG_9508 by Harry Follas, on Flickr  CIF_T3 by Harry Follas, on Flickr  CIF_T4 by Harry Follas, on Flickr Fuaʻamotu International Airport (Tongatatu), November 2011  CIF_C1 by Harry Follas, on Flickr Chatham Islands, Tuuta Airport November 2016  CIF_C2 by Harry Follas, on Flickr Wellington, November 2016  CIF_C3 by Harry Follas, on Flickr Departing Wellington |
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Post by scrooge on Aug 26, 2019 18:25:59 GMT 12
I'll post some more photos of "KFC-5800" ZK-KFS later today, there are some good ones that Mike has that demonstrate the size difference over the standard CV-580 and different engines/prop combinations. Apparently both 5800 aircraft that were converted have worn the rego C-FKFS over time, this makes the aircraft histories confusing to track, 'KFS is now C-GKFS. Here is a bit of a summary of the Kelowna Flightcraft CV-5800 program, apparently only two airframes were ever produced. www.ruudleeuw.com/cv5800.htmKelowna are the Type Certificate Holder for all of the Convair Prop-liners www.kfaero.ca/maintenance-and-engineering/convair/modificationI'm pretty sure there are 6 or 7 5-6 5800 aircraft, ZK-KFS eventually migrated to Chicago I believe and now flies car parts with it's brothers and sisters. Given that ZK-KFS has serial number KFC-004, then logic would say there are at least 4 and there was at least 1 more available after ZK-KFS. |
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Post by johnnyfalcon on Aug 26, 2019 19:26:56 GMT 12
Great thread. Great tag-team effort Peter and Harry, much appreciated!
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Post by harrysone on Aug 26, 2019 21:11:35 GMT 12
Thanks for the update Scrooge on the CV-5800s, very difficult to find an up to date source on theses aircraft! Well that pretty much does it in terms of the histories of the registered '580s in NZ (I think), thanks for your help too Peter . I have a few photos Mike took of Pionair Australian CV-580s that might be of interest including former KSA which I may add. I'll also take a look through my own collections of photos, I'm sure I have internal shots of 2-3 of the NZ Convairs. If anybody has up to date photos of the Chathams fleet and some latter-day Airfreight NZ aircraft that would be good. Most of my photos are only as late as about 2010 |
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