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Post by scrooge on Aug 27, 2019 12:32:47 GMT 12
CV580 cockpit Mar 2005  CV5800 cockpit Mar 2005  |
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Post by scrooge on Aug 27, 2019 12:35:24 GMT 12
CV5800 Freight Cabin  |
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Post by harrysone on Aug 27, 2019 16:07:53 GMT 12
Nice clean partial glass cockpit in the KFC 5800, can see the lineage though  Nice long freight interior too. I see Kelowna FC say that it can be made to accommodate 78 pax, that would put it in similar category as an ATR 72. Not sure if any 5800 has been produced as a passenger transport though. |
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Post by scrooge on Aug 27, 2019 18:23:22 GMT 12
No none, I once saw an illustration mocked up in a German (I think) airline's colours, somewhere on the internet but that was as far as it went.
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Post by harrysone on Aug 28, 2019 9:12:35 GMT 12
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Post by harrysone on Aug 28, 2019 9:19:48 GMT 12
Chathams Pacific aircraft at Fuaʻamotu International Airport, Tonga in November 2011. 'Prop-liner haven' AWP with CIF in the background.  Chats_Pacific by Harry Follas, on Flickr |
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Post by agile on Aug 28, 2019 21:54:21 GMT 12
ZK-CIE in plain white with no titles, NZCI, 17/2/15. Not a great photo but captures the general bleariness of the scene in light drizzle at close to midnight after a very stressful day. I suspect CIE was brought in on this occasion because CIB went U/S.  ZK-CIB, NZCI, 20/2/15. Note the missing logo on the fin.  A windowfull of Allison 501. ZK-CIB, 20/2/15  |
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Post by harrysone on Aug 28, 2019 23:58:25 GMT 12
One that didn't quite make it onto the NZ Register: VH-PDL Convair 580 constructed as CV 340 (s/n 137). Delivered as N11137 to Pan American Airways in December 1953, Converted to CV 440 in 1965, Converted to CV 580 in November 1968. Sold to Pionair NZ in October 2006, reserved registration ZK-PNR (not taken up) Ferried to Palmerston North: September 2006. Painted in Pionair Australia livery as VH-PDL - October 20, 2006 Entered Australian Aircraft Register as VH-PDL October 20, 2006. 13 April 2017, withdrawn from use & registration cancelled  PDL by Harry Follas, on Flickr |
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Post by Peter Lewis on Aug 29, 2019 8:55:51 GMT 12
Didn't know about that one Harry.
Thanks for the info.
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Post by harrysone on Aug 29, 2019 9:39:46 GMT 12
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Post by JW on Aug 30, 2019 11:47:02 GMT 12
Thank you harrysone for posting the histories and pictures of the Convair 580. The Convair 580 is one of my favourite aircraft. I do have four pictures of ZK-KFH at Palmerston North taken in September 2016. Not sure if you would like a picture to post on here.
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Post by harrysone on Aug 30, 2019 13:54:22 GMT 12
absolutely JW, go straight ahead |
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Post by harrysone on Sept 3, 2019 21:12:47 GMT 12
Interesting bit of airline nostalgia...
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Post by cv580f on Sept 14, 2019 6:13:22 GMT 12
I'll post some more photos of "KFC-5800" ZK-KFS later today, there are some good ones that Mike has that demonstrate the size difference over the standard CV-580 and different engines/prop combinations. Apparently both 5800 aircraft that were converted have worn the rego C-FKFS over time, this makes the aircraft histories confusing to track, 'KFS is now C-GKFS. Here is a bit of a summary of the Kelowna Flightcraft CV-5800 program, apparently only two airframes were ever produced. www.ruudleeuw.com/cv5800.htmKelowna are the Type Certificate Holder for all of the Convair Prop-liners www.kfaero.ca/maintenance-and-engineering/convair/modification |
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Post by cv580f on Sept 14, 2019 6:28:19 GMT 12
I'll post some more photos of "KFC-5800" ZK-KFS later today, there are some good ones that Mike has that demonstrate the size difference over the standard CV-580 and different engines/prop combinations. Apparently both 5800 aircraft that were converted have worn the rego C-FKFS over time, this makes the aircraft histories confusing to track, 'KFS is now C-GKFS. Here is a bit of a summary of the Kelowna Flightcraft CV-5800 program, apparently only two airframes were ever produced. www.ruudleeuw.com/cv5800.htmKelowna are the Type Certificate Holder for all of the Convair Prop-liners www.kfaero.ca/maintenance-and-engineering/convair/modification
N371FL sn 309, N381FL sn 276 and N391FL sn 278. As far as I know C-GKFS is being operated by Kelowna Flightcraft in Canada. |
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Post by noooby on Sept 15, 2019 5:40:37 GMT 12
I was just in the drawing office at Kelowna Flightcraft yesterday. Good grief there are a lot of drawings for the Convair series!! All original, nicely rolled up and labelled. And of course they've all been digitised too.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 25, 2019 19:04:32 GMT 12
ZK-CIF CV-580: MSN 381, Convair 440 delivered to Sabena as OO-SCT in December 1956. Converted to CV-580 in September 1968. Registered ZK-CIF to Air Chathams September 2005. Retired from service with Air Chathams earlier in 2019, in storage. Passenger only aircraft, CIE & CIF were both purchased from Alaska based Era Aviation with prospect of services in the Pacific. Both CIE and CIF were operated for periods with Peau Vavau and Chathams Pacific on Tongan and Pacific routes. Both have also provided backup for the Chatham Island Service. CIF was grounded earlier in 2019 and appears to be undergoing process of parts reclamation.ZK-CIF was on TradeMe for a while and made the news as it was being advertised as a potential “tiny house”. It has been purchased by Whanganui man James Barron, will be moved to the seaside suburb of Castlecliff and turned into accommodation. It was the front page of today’s Whanganui Chronicle newspaper but I won’t link to their site as the story is behind a paywall. Fortunately the 3rd Level blog has the story in full: 3rdlevelnz.blogspot.com/2019/09/airliner-to-accommodation.htmlThe aircraft has its own (under construction) webpage: www.castlecliff.nz/zkcifand Facebook page: m.facebook.com/ZK-cif-aka-The-Spirit-of-Whanganui-or-Te-Wairua-o-Whanganui-122816912441775/The news story mentions she will be located near Karaka Street. As I live on Karaka Street this is very exciting. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 26, 2019 3:55:15 GMT 12
From the aforementioned ZK-CIF Facebook page, scans of yesterday's Whanganui Chronicle (I missed out on a copy as both the local dairy and local Four Square were sold out when I went in):  Untitled by Zac Yates, on Flickr  Untitled by Zac Yates, on Flickr |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2019 10:47:30 GMT 12
ZK-KFH: Convair 580, constructed as CV 340 January 1953 for United Airlines (c/n 42) as N73122. Converted to CV 580 in 1967. Converted to freighter by Kelowna Flightcraft 1993. Registered in NZ as ZK-KFH in March 1997 to Airfreight NZ/Fieldair Ltd. On 20th August 2016, Airfreight NZ ceased to operate, ZK-KFH was sold to Air Chatham's Ltd. It was used for a period as a pure freighter during 2017-2018, it has subsequently been subject of parts reclamation by Air Chatham's. Here is 'KFH in another life: www.aerialvisuals.ca/Airframe/Gallery/0/81/0000081443.jpg with United Airlines The final disposal of ZK-KFH www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12242978 KFH_2 by Harry Follas, on Flickr KFH: January 2008 The Facebook page for ZK-CIF reports that Air Chathams hasn't been able to dispose of ZK-KFH and that "just after (CIF) left the hangar(sic) on my roadtrip Thursday she entered to complete being scrapped". |
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Post by harrysone on Nov 4, 2019 15:45:53 GMT 12
I saw the center section of KFH, sans outer wings and rear fuse still sitting on its gear t the end of '23 a couple of weeks ago...the thought did occur to me that she was getting the chop!
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Nice long freight interior too. I see Kelowna FC say that it can be made to accommodate 78 pax, that would put it in similar category as an ATR 72. Not sure if any 5800 has been produced as a passenger transport though.
