Did the Navy Impress Private Boats in WWII?

[Dave Homewood]

By 1939 there were a lot of very nice, often new and quite useful and powerful launches and other private pleasure craft in New Zealand, especially around Auckland. Did the NZ Government impress private boats into Navy service or RNZAF Marine Section service, like they did with private planes in the 1939-40 period?

Or were all the small boats used by the Navy and RNZAF specially built for the role?

[chis73]

Morning Dave,

Don't know about private motor boats & launches, but a number of private company coastal vessels & fishing trawlers were impressed into service as minesweepers and danlayers, at least until 1942, when the Government-ordered vessels began arriving (such as the Bird-class corvettes & Isles-class armed trawlers that came from Britain and the locally built Castle-class trawlers) . For smaller boats, I think they probably had enough Fairmiles & HDMLs (once they arrived, again 1942). I would try a quick browse through S.E. Waters official history of the RNZN in World War II (e-book available here), it should have all the details you're looking for (try chaps 12, 14 & 18 for starters).

[Dave Homewood]

Thanks, ah yes that makes sense.

[davidd]

Yes, plenty of "impressed" launches, etc., plus some ordered for particular Navy or RNZAF purposes. One of latter was to be a "torpedo recovery vessel", ordered in 1943 in anticipation of the arrival of our 63 TBF Avengers under allocation. However, this vessel was never built, as all the NZ civilian boat-builders were far too busy with Navy orders as well as the large contracts to supply various vessels for the United States Army, and the US Navy. In January 1944 the American theatre commander indicated that the NZ TBFs would not now be required as torpedo bombers in the forward area, so the torpedo recovery vessel, even had it been built, would never have had any work to do. Other vessels were impressed or otherwise acquired "for the duration" by other means, such as the RNZAF coming into possession of the so-called "PANAIR", a very attractive large launch which happened to be the property of that very large American airline usually attributed to a gentleman by name of Juan Trippe (spelling?) Another specialised launch was ordered by RNZAF for a purpose I cannot recall. In this case, the launch was never built; however a detailed sketch of this proposed vessel exists in the RNZAF file, the only such sketch I have ever seen in said file.

However, the largest source of specialised marine craft for the RNZAF was the United States Navy, with which the RNZAF had a special arrangement whereby the local theatre commander would supply suitable craft from his "pool" of such craft, quite independent of our "Lend Lease" arrangements. These "pools" existed for all types of supplies and equipment, including aircraft, construction machinery, saw-milling equipment, and all support MT and auxiliary vessels. From this source came our three "Crash" launches (as the Americans termed them, equivalent to "ASR" in the RAF), and a large number of refuelling launches, tow boats, and the like. Many of these were constructed from wood, and as such were considered only as "temporary" vessels in that they were not expected to last for duration of the war, but many in fact did so. Unlike the case of our Land-Lease aircraft, the NZ Govt never had any title to these vessels, but were expected to care for them as for our own, even if they were second-hand, which many in fact were (including those crash boats). Also supplied under similar arrangements was a large proportion of our MT vehicles in the forward area, and also quite a lot of the milling equipment and vehicles (including bull-dozers) in our forward area saw mills. Although practically all this "loaned under local arrangements" equipment reverted to their American government owner after VJ-Day, a small proportion was retained (presumably by some sort of horse-trading arrangements) and returned to New Zealand, including those fabulous-looking crash boats, plus some other marine craft, including refuelling barges (latter probably left behind by US Navy in Fiji). The rather large amount of American military vehicles abandoned in New Zealand whilst awaiting overhaul by NZ civilian contractors (mostly in Petone area from memory, stand to be corrected) was quite another cup of tea.

[zkdex]

Davidd is correct, plenty of civilian vessels were impressed for military use, mostly by the Navy. Some were patrol vessels with Q pennants, while others served with the Naval Auxiliary Patrol Service (NAPS) and had Z pennants. Once the purpose built HDML and Fairmile launches (Q pennants) became available, many of the impressed vessels were released. From memory, the RNZAF launches had id numbers prefixed with a W.
Not all of these vessels were sea-going, the RNZAF had a launch or two on Lake Rotorua!

[davidd]

Yes, the RNZAF launches were normally referred to by their bow number, and in signals, documents, log books and unit histories, etc., these numbers were always prefixed with a "W", but in fact, no letter was ever painted on them at all, just the number. I have always assumed that the "W" indicated Water (although that sounds pretty wishy - washy), but so far I have never found any official explanation for the practice of referring to these vessels with the invisible prefix letter, nor for the choice of "W". Many of the impressed launches (and other craft) also had names (usually their civilian one) but most did not, such as W1.

[Dave Homewood]

Here is an interesting piece of history, sort of semi-related to civilian boats being impressed.



A WARTIME MEASURE FOR AUCKLAND PLEASURE CRAFT
To enable boats to use the eastern passage of the harbour for leaving and entering port, season licences are being issued by the Auckland Yacht and Motor-Boat Association. Above, painting a- registration number on a launch at St. Mary's Bay on Saturday. 
NEW ZEALAND HERALD,  23 OCTOBER 1939

[Dave Homewood]

And Minhinnick worked his magic with his 'Old Soldier Sam' cartoon strip in the NZ Herald on the 16th of December 1939.

[Dave Homewood]

Another example of a civilian owned pleasure craft in Auckland with the military registration number.

LATEST ADDITION TO AUCKLAND'S FLEET OF PLEASURE CRAFT
The Lady Alice, a new cruiser built by her owner, Mr. G. Roberts, of St. Heliers Bay, shortly after her launching yesterday. The boat is 30 feet overall with a beam of 9 feet.
NEW ZEALAND HERALD, 12 JANUARY 1940

[Dave Homewood]

Here is another boat with the registration number. Or what was left of it.



Wreckage of Mr. E. F. Laslett's 20ft launch — a converted lifeboat — which was driven from St. Heliers by the gale along the waterfront, striking the breastwork repeatedly until, she broke up, near Kohimarama Wharf.

NEW ZEALAND HERALD, 15 JANUARY 1940