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Post by Dave Homewood on Oct 6, 2024 9:49:05 GMT 12
I wonder is a Seasprite was deployed aboard at the time of the grounding? Any idea?
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Post by Dave Homewood on Oct 6, 2024 10:01:50 GMT 12
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Post by Antonio on Oct 6, 2024 10:27:13 GMT 12
Sad sight.  The HMNZS Manawanui, aground in Samoa. Photo: Profile Boats / supplied |
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Post by gibbo on Oct 6, 2024 10:30:53 GMT 12
I wonder is a Seasprite was deployed aboard at the time of the grounding? Any idea? She had a forward flight-deck but no hangar so was able to operate a chopper but not deploy one ...so no chopper onboard. |
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Post by gibbo on Oct 6, 2024 10:32:14 GMT 12
Sad sight. The HMNZS Manawanui, aground in Samoa. Photo: Profile Boats / suppliedLater photos in media show a much worse state ...major fire & sunk, although possibly not fully submegred the fire will have totalled her. |
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Post by Dave Homewood on Oct 6, 2024 10:58:20 GMT 12
I guess to save on money, the crew could come home on the next two C-130J's that will be passing through there soon on the way from the USA.
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Post by machina on Oct 6, 2024 11:41:23 GMT 12
Very sad, and such a blow. I wonder what the future holds for the NZDF. The status quo re funding/resources is unsustainable.
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Post by Mustang51 on Oct 6, 2024 12:55:26 GMT 12
Just so happy that everyone evacuated safely
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Post by chrisr on Oct 6, 2024 16:34:00 GMT 12
A C-130J is off to Samoa on the types first International trip in RNZAF service.
EDIT. Well it was, seems takeoff was aborted.
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Post by snafu on Oct 6, 2024 17:28:26 GMT 12
It will be career ending for the commanding officer and the officer of the watch at least. Hard to understand how a vessel with some of the most capable sonar equipment available aboard could run aground. The NZDF does not insure its vehicles, ships nor aircraft. Well not the first time something like this has happened HMS Nottingham ran aground on the submerged but well charted Wolf Rock near Lord Howe Island. Yes, believe it will be bad news for the CO as at the end of the day the buck stops with them |
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Post by 30sqnatc on Oct 6, 2024 18:36:30 GMT 12
A C-130J is off to Samoa on the types first International trip in RNZAF service. EDIT. Well it was, seems takeoff was aborted. A Kiwi callsign is now outbound on Flight Radar 24 NNE towards Samoa. |
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Post by The Red Baron on Oct 6, 2024 19:59:43 GMT 12
About the only time I went 'ship spotting'...planes are more interesting.   |
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Post by machina on Oct 6, 2024 20:46:25 GMT 12
A C-130J is off to Samoa on the types first International trip in RNZAF service. EDIT. Well it was, seems takeoff was aborted. A Kiwi callsign is now outbound on Flight Radar 24 NNE towards Samoa. NZ7012, for posterity. |
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Post by l29 on Oct 6, 2024 21:21:03 GMT 12
Good news, the fire is out.
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Post by Dave Homewood on Oct 6, 2024 22:14:50 GMT 12
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Post by tbf2504 on Oct 7, 2024 8:29:31 GMT 12
Minister of Defence Judith Collins indicated on TVNZ this morning that the ship may have lost power before hitting the reef
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Post by davidd on Oct 7, 2024 9:18:18 GMT 12
Although the MOA was sunk by Japanese bombs off Guadalcanal, it is almost certain that the Japanese bomber crew (pretty certain it was a Val) was aiming for the very large US Navy tanker that happened to be refuellingg the MOA at the time, just off the stern of the larger ship I believe. Both ships were stationery, anchored or moored. Very bad luck for the NZ Navy, very wonderful luck for the US Navy! Apparently the MOA went down almost immediately to the bottom, with loss of life (from memory).
Whoops, somehow this post appeared in the wrong page, relates to Davie's comment on page 1. Must be my fat fingers again.
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Post by hardyakka on Oct 7, 2024 11:32:01 GMT 12
I see a P-8 (NZ4804) was deployed in support and then later one of the new C-130J's (NZ7012) was sent out as well.
I can see a C-130H (NZ7002) is not far from Samoa now (midday 7th Oct).
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Post by Antonio on Oct 7, 2024 11:56:03 GMT 12
Although the MOA was sunk by Japanese bombs off Guadalcanal, it is almost certain that the Japanese bomber crew (pretty certain it was a Val) was aiming for the very large US Navy tanker that happened to be refuellingg the MOA at the time, just off the stern of the larger ship I believe. Both ships were stationery, anchored or moored. Very bad luck for the NZ Navy, very wonderful luck for the US Navy! Apparently the MOA went down almost immediately to the bottom, with loss of life (from memory). Whoops, somehow this post appeared in the wrong page, relates to Davie's comment on page 1. Must be my fat fingers again. Five ratings were killed and seven were seriously wounded, including Lt Cdr Phipps. |
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Post by machina on Oct 7, 2024 12:14:21 GMT 12
Minister of Defence Judith Collins indicated on TVNZ this morning that the ship may have lost power before hitting the reef I wonder if that makes Babcock nervous. |
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