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Post by Dave Homewood on Oct 5, 2024 22:42:35 GMT 12
NZ Navy ship runs aground off Samoa HMNZS Manawanui pictured in Niue in late 2023. Photo: NZDF A New Zealand Defence Force ship has run aground off the Samoan island of Upolu. HMNZS Manawanui, the Navy's specialist dive and hydrographic vessel, regularly conducts tasks across the Pacific. Marinetraffic.com's ship tracker showed the vessel was 'aground' near the village of Siumu, on the southern side of Upolu, at 10.45pm Saturday. It had departed Auckland's Devonport naval base for the Pacific on 29 September. According to the Defence Force website, the ship has a capacity of 66 and a core crew of 39. It has been in service since November 2019 and has a top speed of 14 knots (26km/h). In November 2023, it was used in a seven-week operation to conduct underwater surveys and help to dispose of submerged World War II bombs in Niue, Fiji and Vanuatu. "Some of our crew hail from Pacific nations and so for them our deployments to the Pacific are a way for them to give something back to their communities," Commanding Officer Yvonne Gray said at the time. The Defence Force has been contacted for comment. www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/529935/nz-navy-ship-runs-aground-off-samoa
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Post by Dave Homewood on Oct 5, 2024 23:34:29 GMT 12
Royal New Zealand Navy vessel HMNZS Manawanui runs aground near SamoaBy Cherie Howie 5 Oct, 2024 11:50 PM  The Royal New Zealand Navy ship HMNZS Manawanui is used for salvage and hydrography tasks around New Zealand and across the South West Pacific, according to the New Zealand Defence Force website. Photo / NZDF - Royal New Zealand Navy ship HMNZS Manawanui runs aground near Samoa
- All 78 on board safe on lifeboats.
- HMNZS Manawanui is a specialist dive and hydrographic vessel.
A Royal New Zealand Navy vessel has run aground near the southern coast of Upolu in Samoa tonight, with all 78 on board in life rafts and accounted for, Maritime Component Commander Commodore Shane Arndell said. The incident on the specialist dive and hydrographic vessel HMNZS Manawanui occurred tonight while conducting a reef survey. “The safety of personnel is our top priority. All of the 78 who were on board are currently in life rafts and accounted for. The New Zealand Defence Force is working closely with the Rescue Coordination Centre (RCCNZ) who are co-ordinating rescue efforts. “A Royal New Zealand Air Force P8 has been deployed to assist.” Defence Minister Judith Collins couldn’t immediately be contacted. HMNZS Manawanui, which sailed out of Devonport Naval Base in Auckland last Saturday, has a core crew of 39 but bunks for 66, according to the NZDF website. Commanded by Commander Yvonne Gray, it was built in 2003 and has been in service with the Royal New Zealand Navy since 2019. Its homeport is Gisborne.  Royal New Zealand Navy specialist dive and hydrographic vessel HMNZS Manawanui as pictured on the New Zealand Defence Force website. Photo/ NZDF The 5741 tonne, 84.7m ship, which has a beam of 18m and draught of 6.8m is used by the navy for specialist diving, salvage and hydrography tasks around New Zealand and across the South West Pacific, according to the NZDF. “Missions that the ship enables include coastal and harbour survey, underwater explosive disposal, underwater search and recovery, and limited mine countermeasures.” The ship supported navy operations “across the maritime domain”, they said. “The ship can survey harbours and approaches prior to larger support ships landing support equipment and personnel whether for combat or disaster relief. It can support the ongoing mission to eradicate explosive remnants of war in the South Pacific. “And it can undertake salvage operations to find and recover submerged objects.” www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/royal-new-zealand-navy-vessel-hmnzs-manawanui-runs-aground-near-samoa/YLJL2634NVDJTD6YOQPJDBOMFU/
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Post by Dave Homewood on Oct 5, 2024 23:35:29 GMT 12
When was the last time a full RNZN crew had to abandon ship?
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Post by madmac on Oct 6, 2024 6:04:21 GMT 12
How aground does a Navy ship to be, for them to abandon ship.
Well thats probadly the end of the Navys hydrographic capabiliy hopefully only until the next government.
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Post by machina on Oct 6, 2024 6:05:28 GMT 12
Damn.
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Post by johnnyfalcon on Oct 6, 2024 7:00:13 GMT 12
Well that's not so bad, if the worst happens, it can salvage itself... |
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Post by Antonio on Oct 6, 2024 7:57:08 GMT 12
She's a heavy wee beastie given her size, methinks
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Post by shane on Oct 6, 2024 8:03:57 GMT 12
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Post by Dave Homewood on Oct 6, 2024 8:18:43 GMT 12
What a colossal disaster for the Navy. Very sad. Running aground was bad enough but the fire is dreadful.
Just what the Defence Force did not need when they're already hemorrhaging money with not enough budget, and a stop put on capital expenditure.
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Post by oj on Oct 6, 2024 8:20:07 GMT 12
Hope the Insurance Premium is paid up to date (if any)!
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Post by oj on Oct 6, 2024 8:24:20 GMT 12
What a colossal disaster for the Navy. Very sad. Running aground was bad enough but the fire is dreadful. Just what the Defence Force did not need when they're already hemorrhaging money with not enough budget, and a stop put on capital expenditure. Agreed. The only winners out of this will be the Personnel Dept., who can redeploy the crew to compensate for the lack of incoming recruits. |
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Post by Dave Homewood on Oct 6, 2024 8:27:57 GMT 12
Hope the Insurance Premium is paid up to date (if any)! I very much doubt that the RNZN insures their ships. The RNZF does not insure their aircraft, and the cost of insuring a fleet of ships that do not make money would be astronomical and not worthwhile. |
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Post by l29 on Oct 6, 2024 8:32:07 GMT 12
And it's sunk
What a embarrassing time for all.
The cleanup costs will be huge
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Post by Dave Homewood on Oct 6, 2024 8:34:51 GMT 12
Sunk? Oh no.
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Post by madmac on Oct 6, 2024 8:39:56 GMT 12
What a colossal disaster for the Navy. Very sad. Running aground was bad enough but the fire is dreadful. Just what the Defence Force did not need when they're already hemorrhaging money with not enough budget, and a stop put on capital expenditure. This is what happens when an organization is subject to cronic under funding and bleeds personnel, and anyone who supports the defense force should mention it in any media they engage in. |
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Post by chis73 on Oct 6, 2024 9:15:23 GMT 12
Yep, Minister sacking time! It's not personal Judith, it's just an operational matter.
So sad for what's left of our little Navy. This may indeed be the nadir. Certainly comparable with the breakdown and subsequent retirement of HMNZS Royalist in 1965. What are we left with now - 8 ships of which we can only crew 5?
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Post by l29 on Oct 6, 2024 9:31:19 GMT 12
How on earth is this a ministers fault? Perhaps if people were actually accountable for there own actions. Can't be to hard to miss a reef.... NZ is broke, it's wasted billions on feel good things and now it's crunch time. Yep, Minister sacking time! It's not personal Judith, it's just an operational matter. So sad for what's left of our little Navy. This may indeed be the nadir. Certainly comparable with the breakdown and subsequent retirement of HMNZS Royalist in 1965. What are we left with now - 8 ships of which we can only crew 5? |
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Post by chasper on Oct 6, 2024 9:40:18 GMT 12
It will be career ending for the commanding officer and the officer of the watch at least. Hard to understand how a vessel with some of the most capable sonar equipment available aboard could run aground.
The NZDF does not insure its vehicles, ships nor aircraft.
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Post by Dave Homewood on Oct 6, 2024 9:40:21 GMT 12
Can't be to hard to miss a reef.... Considering this was their ship specially equipped for seeing what was beneath the surface of the ocean, it really makes me wonder what was going on. |
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Post by Dave Homewood on Oct 6, 2024 9:45:28 GMT 12
From what I can see, the last time an RNZN vessel was lost in naval service was HMNZS Moa in 1943 when she was sunk by Japanese bombers.
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