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Post by planeimages on Jun 30, 2006 22:40:56 GMT 12
A8-113 RAAF F-111. Looking into the fires of hell.  |
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Post by Dave Homewood on Jul 5, 2006 23:21:30 GMT 12
man, that is an awesome photograph Peter! I can feel the heat!
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Post by planeimages on Jul 6, 2006 18:10:20 GMT 12
"You catch 'em and I'll fry 'em". "Goose" Top Gun.
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Post by xr6turbo1 on Jul 6, 2006 21:19:31 GMT 12
That is a very nice shot. Here is a couple I took. Wonderful aircraft and display.  |
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Post by xr6turbo1 on Jul 6, 2006 21:24:24 GMT 12
Cant resist, heres one more, youve gotta love those afterburners   |
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Post by Dave Homewood on Jul 6, 2006 22:07:15 GMT 12
Fabulous photos, just stunning. That one of the heat haze is amazing. It makes you think, what sorts of temperatures the airframes endure both at high speed and dumping and burning.
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Post by planeimages on Jul 10, 2006 17:49:53 GMT 12
Love the heat-haze shot and the rear end on shot with vapour streams is XLNT, too.
When I exhibited one of my F-111 shots from Avalon at a photographic club contest the judge thought the the heat haze was "a bit blurry". So much for non-aviation enthusiast judges! She still gave me a "merit" award.
I am reliably (?) informed that the RAAF have a special buget to repair the metal work between the engines after each dump-and-burn exercise. Personally I cannot see how the flames way out the back can have an effect on the airframe.
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Post by glenn on Jul 11, 2006 22:54:14 GMT 12
That haze shot is certainly different :-) Was going to post this one in another thread but seeing as this one is about the triple one. I'll just put it in here  |
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Post by planeimages on Jul 12, 2006 23:02:52 GMT 12
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Post by planeimages on Jul 12, 2006 23:07:47 GMT 12
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Post by xr6turbo1 on Jul 13, 2006 18:53:48 GMT 12
I do like the Kittyhawk shot the lighting is perfect, very nice |
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Post by Dave Homewood on Jul 13, 2006 19:25:59 GMT 12
Super stuff Peter! I agree with Gavin on the P-40 lighting, and i love the Corsair shot. Also, that's a great shot of John Lamont in the Kittyhawk.
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Post by xr6turbo1 on Jul 13, 2006 19:37:06 GMT 12
Hows this for an angry face  |
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Post by Bruce on Jul 13, 2006 19:48:35 GMT 12
[quote author=planeimages board=airshow thread=1151664056
I am reliably (?) informed that the RAAF have a special buget to repair the metal work between the engines after each dump-and-burn exercise. Personally I cannot see how the flames way out the back can have an effect on the airframe. [/quote]
I would say that there shouldnt need to be any repairs to the tail end skinning after fuel dumps. Most of that structure is Titanium and can cope with high temps, if it was prone to heat damage, GD wouldnt have put the dump pipes there! (fuel dumping is a routine military capability - not just a cool party trick). besides which the plume of fuel out the back is considerably cooler than the efflux from the two afterburners - remember the bunsen burner flames in the school science labs - yellow = cooler, blue / clear = hot!.
Incidentally the heat haze effect (and a very good pic of it too btw) is caused by the heat in the air between the subject and the camera, rather than directly off the airframe. as the picture shows the aircraft banking away from the rear, the warm slipstream would be settling in the foreground, difracting the passage of light. I love the atmospheric effects that follow F111s around! (the condensation clouds and tip vortices also prove useful physics theories!)
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Post by glenn on Jul 13, 2006 20:14:26 GMT 12
That Kittyhawk flames shot is just stunning. It's the shot of Wanaka for me.
Re the F111 budget, I don't nkow if it is true but I can assure you, the heat is intense. Several years ago, I had an F111 doing a dump and burn appraoch me at around 200 feet. it's track took itself directly over me. several seconds before the aircraft had even reached me, I had a strong burst of heat. Enough to worry me. If I could feel it from that distance, what was it going to be like overhead. As it all panned out. I can't tell you how hot it got. I don't recall it getting any hotter but that may have been the sheer panic I was experiencing :-) As the aircraft is a lot closer to the flame for a lot longer than I am, I would not be surprissed if it did do some damage.
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Post by Dave Homewood on Jul 13, 2006 20:51:48 GMT 12
I agree, the Kittyhawk belching flames is simply stunning! Great shot Gavin!
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Post by Simonjg on Jul 13, 2006 23:08:34 GMT 12
All really fantastic shots; I bet NZ Warbirds would love some of them for the NZ Warbirds site.
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Post by Dave Homewood on Jul 14, 2006 0:06:15 GMT 12
I know Stuart who runs their website. I should tell him to take a look here.
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Post by Dave Homewood on Jul 14, 2006 0:10:53 GMT 12
Email sent.
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Post by planeimages on Jul 14, 2006 9:36:30 GMT 12
Thanks to "Bruce" and Glenn for your comments on the heat. I was really being somewhat "tongue-in-cheek" as a shot against my informer. I would have to agree with the thoughts that the heat from the dump flames couldn't adversely affect the airframe. More likely there would be a "budget" for these displays. I put in the shot of the F-111 from underneath to demonstrate how far back the fuel ignites.
On the subject of heat from aircraft passing overhead I would have to agree with Glenn. Several times recently I have stood under the approach path of aircraft (Temora, Tyabb and Albion Park) and been amazed at how much hot air and fumes are displaced downwards. Logical if you think about it, of course.
Thank you, too, to Dave and XR6Turbo1 for your kind comments on my shots. The Kittyhawk with the sun on the side is one of my favourites. My mother always siad "Never shoot into the sun." Things have changed. And for those phot-club critics of the dynamic range of exposure on digital SLRS this shot shows a wide range of light values. Except for the blown-out highlights where the sun's rays are intense I think it does pretty well. Any photographic system would have a problem capturing detail in these areas.
I agree that the Kittyhawk "flames" shot is the pic of the show. Well done XR6Turbo1.
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