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AVALON
Mar 28, 2007 8:06:54 GMT 12
Post by FlyNavy on Mar 28, 2007 8:06:54 GMT 12
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AVALON
Mar 28, 2007 8:28:05 GMT 12
Post by Bruce on Mar 28, 2007 8:28:05 GMT 12
The light coloured low - viz roundels on the Hawks are interesting, look a little bit weird. (Especially with full colour, high viz tail markings!) Great photos - love the night ones!
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AVALON
Mar 28, 2007 11:00:11 GMT 12
Post by flyjoe180 on Mar 28, 2007 11:00:11 GMT 12
Awesome photos Looks like a busy place for that week
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AVALON
Mar 28, 2007 13:11:45 GMT 12
Post by corsair67 on Mar 28, 2007 13:11:45 GMT 12
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AVALON
Mar 28, 2007 13:36:55 GMT 12
Post by Dave Homewood on Mar 28, 2007 13:36:55 GMT 12
Ah, so there were a few warbirds there then. Including a lot of US-marked Harvards it seems. Nice shots!
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AVALON
Mar 28, 2007 13:57:26 GMT 12
Post by corsair67 on Mar 28, 2007 13:57:26 GMT 12
Dave, there are a few warbirds that come along, but not all of them fly during the public days. I think there might be some issues about how much Avalon is prepared to reimburse aircraft owners for flying at the show - at least that's the rumours I have heard around the tracks. Temora certainly doesn't send any aircraft to Avalon, which is a real shame because of the very rare aircraft they have in their collection. I can't believe that Avalon management would let aircraft like the Hudson, Meteor, Canberra and two Spitfires slip through their fingers. Sorry to bombard the site with so many images, but I just wanted to share some of what I saw during the 5 days I was in Melbourne with forumites who aren't able to get there.
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AVALON
Mar 28, 2007 14:57:19 GMT 12
Post by Dave Homewood on Mar 28, 2007 14:57:19 GMT 12
Never apologise for posting such interesting photos, they're extremely appreciated.
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AVALON
Mar 28, 2007 16:44:17 GMT 12
Post by FlyNavy on Mar 28, 2007 16:44:17 GMT 12
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AVALON
Mar 28, 2007 19:19:17 GMT 12
Post by corsair67 on Mar 28, 2007 19:19:17 GMT 12
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AVALON
Mar 28, 2007 19:45:46 GMT 12
Post by Dave Homewood on Mar 28, 2007 19:45:46 GMT 12
Do my eyes deceive me, or does that black Airtrainer have CT-4F written on its tail? Is there such a thing now as an F model?
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AVALON
Mar 28, 2007 20:04:01 GMT 12
Post by planeimages on Mar 28, 2007 20:04:01 GMT 12
Hi Craig,
Love the Dak and the Winjeel with its "mouth" open.
The boy in the F/A18 shot is great, too. When will he be flying one or its successor. I heard that one of the RAAF F/A 18 pilots used to lie on Stockton Beach and watch pilots flying F/A 18s into Williamtown. Now he are one!
Yes, Dave the CT 4 has moved to version F.
As I understand it from the sandwich board blurb it has a glass cockpit and other items to make it more compatible with modern service aircraft systems. Next thing it will have a turbine and weapons!
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AVALON
Mar 28, 2007 20:07:17 GMT 12
Post by planeimages on Mar 28, 2007 20:07:17 GMT 12
And I missed the three-bladed prop. Do other versions have these?
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AVALON
Mar 28, 2007 20:49:16 GMT 12
Post by beagle on Mar 28, 2007 20:49:16 GMT 12
Yes, I just saw that too Dave. Unles it is an E with an upgraded avionics system that they have decided to call an F, just like we call our orions a K
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AVALON
Mar 28, 2007 21:04:00 GMT 12
Post by Dave Homewood on Mar 28, 2007 21:04:00 GMT 12
Thanks Peter, I never knew of the new model. Yes, the C and E models had/have three blades.
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AVALON
Mar 28, 2007 21:13:40 GMT 12
Post by beagle on Mar 28, 2007 21:13:40 GMT 12
wasn't their a model about 6-7 years ago that they were going to do with retractable undercarriage
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AVALON
Mar 28, 2007 21:39:13 GMT 12
Post by Dave Homewood on Mar 28, 2007 21:39:13 GMT 12
PAC considered it but it never got to the prototype stage.
There's no mention of a CT/4F on the PAC site.
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AVALON
Mar 28, 2007 21:50:40 GMT 12
Post by Kereru on Mar 28, 2007 21:50:40 GMT 12
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AVALON
Mar 28, 2007 22:18:33 GMT 12
Post by Dave Homewood on Mar 28, 2007 22:18:33 GMT 12
Stunning photos Colin! That one of the Harvard team is gorgeous, the way the light is catching the different silver and yellow bodywork on each. The F-111 flame shot is one of the best I've seen too.
The biplane dropping napalm is also spectacular.
Is that a dedeicated RAAF Hornet aerobatic team?
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AVALON
Mar 29, 2007 0:26:46 GMT 12
Post by JDK on Mar 29, 2007 0:26:46 GMT 12
Dave's asked me to post some of my photos of the shjow, so here goes, impressions included. I went to the show on the Saturday with a friend's family, and the weather wasn't much fun and I didn't get many pics; Sunday the weather was better, but the cloud hung around and there was a mean wind all day. Of the three Avalon shows I've been to (1992, 2005 and 2007) this was undoubtedly the least impressive in terms of aircraft - either variety or numbers, and the impression I get was that they'd not bothered at all in getting any 'extra' performers for the show days. All fine, except, like the Formula 1 car racing, the Victorian state government is handing over a large lump of cash to an organisation that should make a clear profit... To be fair to the organisers, with the new heavy metal, they were in a gap in major contracts - nothing major in either civil or military or Australian or Pacific opportunities coming up, and a number of recent ones just signed. You'll also note no Airbus A-380 or Boeing 707, a poor effort by Qantas. The 707 was scheduled to appear at the Sydney Harbour bridge 75th anniversary, but there were 'paperwork' problems that stopped it; most of the scheduled flying also didn't eventuate there for other reasons. That's the negatives, and if that seems a little less than positive, bear in mind the show was promoted as 'best in the world' and more realistically 'one of the best'. It was a long way from either accolade. On the positive side there was some stunning flying, the Boeing test-pilot in the Super Hornet was spectacular, the Italians in their cargo twin turbo prop, and the RAAF did a good job with the four Hornet display, Roulettes, F-111 an Neptune. Anyway, on with the motley: The Australian Army's new toy. The HARS Neptune didn't fly during the show. The fibreglass (solid) model of the Bell X-1. Chuck Yeager decided to be photographed against some other aircraft... There were four Daks on show, three of which flew. Many of the warbird operators aren't interested any more, and stay away. Alan Arthur's P-40 from South Australia was one present, seen here with the RAAF Museum's CAC Mustang. Toothy. Jim Wickham in the Yak. VH-BOB, operated by Bob Eastgate, and the RAAF Museum's Mustang. One of the many Nanchangs in Australia, this one with a great scheme... One of the highlights was the wingovers and (here) rolls by the Italian Spartan transport. It's behind you...
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AVALON
Mar 29, 2007 0:28:06 GMT 12
Post by JDK on Mar 29, 2007 0:28:06 GMT 12
And more. A superb display. The RAAF Museum's Operation Officer, Wc Cdr Warren Madsen in the Museum's Tiger. Built in Australia - the Gippsland Airvan, and a good seller worldwide. Just a nice view. Trainer formation - two CT-4s, Winjeel and Harvard. The Cubulture based Wirraway was present, and put oin another good display. I like this picture, as it could be Papua New Guinea, 1942. We were blessed with a couple of flypasts by a B-52 on the Saturday and on the Sunday by an aircraft based, I think at Guam. The Connie was impressive. On the Saturday it returned early with the port inner shut down, oiled plugs was the word, but was very impressive on the Sunday. Qantas seem to have a tagging problem... But then you'll never muddle your aircraft with another! :lol: The 'Southern Knights' did a very nice Harvard formation flight. A mix of ex-military and civilian pilots. Pig getting ready to set the sky on fire... Always impressive. That's all folks!
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