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Post by Dave Homewood on Sept 4, 2023 19:43:54 GMT 12
Did you nod off onto the return key there Shorty?
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Post by oj on Sept 4, 2023 20:15:11 GMT 12
What Electrical School?
Are you talking about 2TTS at Wigram E&W School?
What years?
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Post by chrisr on Sept 4, 2023 20:34:43 GMT 12
www.adf-serials.com.au/nz-serials/nzcorsair.htmNZ5526 - To CFS, Wigram 1945-1946. Converted to instructional airframe INST118 with Electrical and Wireless School, Wigram on 06 November 1946. Advertised for sale by WARB tender number 3386 and sold from Wigram to R. Shearer, on 09 May 1949. Broken up at Ashburton scrap yard in 1954.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 6, 2023 21:16:12 GMT 12
Re the Corsair at Rangiora business. Way back in time (1970's) I was told that the Corsair from the Electrical school at Wigram had sold to a Mr Shearer in North Canterbury so there might actual be something related but it wouldn't have been flying. It certainly matches up with the NZDF Serials info! How I'd love to get a look at those photos...oh to have been there a few minutes earlier! |
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Post by Antonio on Sept 7, 2023 9:24:18 GMT 12
There is a photo of NZ5526 (somewhere - NZ Wings?) wedged into the centre of the H block of 2TTS.
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Post by denysjones on Sept 7, 2023 11:14:36 GMT 12
You beat me to it Antonio..I was just about to say that I recall that shot on here somewhere. I seem to recall the a/c was in bare metal with an anti-glare panel dos that seem right to any other here?
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Post by tbf2504 on Sept 7, 2023 11:59:57 GMT 12
You correct Dennys. Was used by CFS at Wigram in overall silver with black cockpit framing and anti-dazzle on fuselage upper front cowl. On page 104 of Warren Russells book on the Corsair there is a good line drawing showing
the colour scheme also photos on page 182
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Post by Antonio on Sept 7, 2023 15:45:50 GMT 12
You correct Dennys. Was used by CFS at Wigram in overall silver with black cockpit framing and anti-dazzle on fuselage upper front cowl. On page 104 of Warren Russells book on the Corsair there is a good line drawing showing the colour scheme also photos on page 182 Bingo! The pic I was referring is there. I had a looksee at the book but missed to final pages! |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 7, 2023 19:15:58 GMT 12
Y'all wouldn't happen to be discussing...THIS photo?  NZ5526 by Zac Yates, on Flickr |
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Post by shorty on Sept 7, 2023 21:43:59 GMT 12
That's not the photo I was thinking of. My recollection was of it in the scrap yard
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Post by Dave Homewood on Sept 7, 2023 22:34:12 GMT 12
That's not the photo I was thinking of. My recollection was of it in the scrap yard You are not thinking of this shot, are you, Shorty? Posted by Marcus Bridle (Hairy) many years ago.  |
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kiwiwreckdiver
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Post by kiwiwreckdiver on Feb 25, 2024 21:12:17 GMT 12
Would anyone know anymore of P51 NZ2424 or have the crash report on her?? Did the RNZAF bother with a recovery of the wreckage since it was a dive in from great heights or she still sittin on the hbr floor in a big mush of alloy ??
124-48268 45-11515 Shipped from the US on the "Dominion Park".
Received at the Aircraft Assembly Depot Hobsonville on 27 August 1945.
Placed in rubberised storage at Hobsonville in early 1946.
Transferred to Ardmore by barge and road in February 1947.
Remained cocooned until early 1952.
To No.3 (Canterbury) TAF Squadron 10 June 1952.
Dived into Lyttleton Harbour from high altitude due oxygen failure at 1153 hours on 27 September 1952.
Officer Vernon Duckmanton killed.
This was the first RNZAF Mustang to be lost.
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Post by davidd on Feb 26, 2024 8:54:55 GMT 12
Note that all the RNZAF Mustangs, shipped from USA in 1945, were (I think) given the "full protection" system at the North American factory prior to shipping. However also possible they were test flown at factory, then flown to an airfield adjacent to one of the East or West Coast ports, given protection treatment, then hoisted onto aircraft carrier, merchant ship or oil/fuel carrier for onward transport to final destination). The protection system used for the RNZAF Mustangs in 1945 was a type of black, shiny plastic material known as "Plastiphene" if my memory is working correctly. Many other types of new American aircraft received this treatment in USA prior to being shipped overseas, especially fighters and light bombers, also possibly used for light communications aircraft too, although fabric covered light aircraft probably crated and carried below deck. The Plastiphene was particularly suited to protecting aircraft carried as deck cargo on merchant ships, or on aircraft carriers used, literally, as aircraft-carrying aircraft carriers! The Plastiphene was left on the NZ Mustangs in storage until they were being prepared for flying from 1951/52 onwards. However RNZAF PV-1 Venturas were carried from California to Hawaii from about June 1943 onwards till August/Sept 1944 with no additional protection, and paid the price, particularly if they ran into storms.
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Post by baz62 on Feb 26, 2024 9:44:50 GMT 12
Would anyone know anymore of P51 NZ2424 or have the crash report on her?? I'm sure I've seen a photo of her remains in a hangar presumably Wigram? |
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Post by NZ1009 on Feb 26, 2024 11:22:22 GMT 12
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Post by Mustang51 on Feb 26, 2024 11:53:20 GMT 12
A tragedy but an incredible story. Being able to obtain detailed witness reports like that is something that rarely occurs.
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kiwiwreckdiver
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Post by kiwiwreckdiver on Feb 27, 2024 13:05:18 GMT 12
Many thanks mate, thats all the finer details I was after and then sum. wow a truly horrible but interesting story. I went to a double Blenheim crash in Norway where we paid our respects to the Crew in Bergin CWGC then went to the crash site, which consisted of a giant hole next to a swamp and 4 engines in the side of the hill next to it. thinking that the German did an efficient job of recovering a bury the dead we jump into the swamp to have poke around. My Norwegian mate put his hand under water and pulled out a near complete but smashed flgiht engineers panel with gauges and switches. I put my hands under water and pulled out what felt like a pipe from the engine..... turns out it was complete leg bone. those German weren't as efficient as we had hoped. the Bone was handed over to local Police not 100% what became of it as all the bodies were accounted for. May they all rest in peace. |
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Post by Dave Homewood on Feb 27, 2024 13:15:26 GMT 12
Yikes!
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Post by madmac on Feb 27, 2024 13:49:27 GMT 12
Somewhere in Christchurch I was told that the engine had, had the pistons melt in to the block due to the speed the prop was driving the pistons at during the dive. |
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kiwiwreckdiver
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Post by kiwiwreckdiver on Mar 12, 2024 15:23:26 GMT 12
Big rumour in recent times
id like to know more about was the Dump at Wigram found when it was being re developed the Me109E was supposed to have been chopped up and dumped in there and I recently saw Harvard parts on TM with notes saying found in Wigram airbase dump.... how much was found, by who and how did some make it onto the market ?? I think a nice big chunk of fuse would have been pretty temping for scrappies had they found anything.
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