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Post by angelsonefive on Mar 21, 2019 11:45:04 GMT 12
Very generous and I find almost unbelievable in light of went down in Jakarta in May 1998, events very raw for the Chinese still living there. Once again the media portrayed it as something completely different and downplaying the real numbers involved. Likewise in 1965 and 1966. 1RNZIR was in Sarawak, towards the end of our "tour" there, when we heard of mass killings going on in Indonesia. Under the pretext of putting down a coup the Indon. govt and military liquidated the Partai Komunis Indonesia, which consisted mainly of ethnic Chinese citizens, resulting in the end in the deaths of 500,000 to 1 million people.
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Post by richard1098 on Mar 21, 2019 22:11:08 GMT 12
I believe that within the penitentiary system he may be dealt a suffering blow from other incarcerated inmates. Lets hope he suffers as there is not enough punishment for planning over 18 months this heinous act of cowardice and brutal aggression where 49 people so far have been slaughtered. Karma will define his fate!! I know this is a radical negative view and as a Christian I should show compassion and forgiveness but I'm sorry to say I cannot fogive this act of terrorism on our peaceful land. When this non human is incarcerated, he will more than likely be in protective or isolated custody like Martin Bryant in Hobart. Certainly cost the taxpayer more than an average prisoner. Seeing Australia sends New Zealanders back home after being convicted maybe you should do the same. The Aus government deports foreign national only after they've served their jail sentence. There'd be no way they'd simply trust another country, no matter how friendly, to ensure their sentence for a serious crime was actually served.
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Post by Dave Homewood on Mar 21, 2019 23:22:07 GMT 12
Well maybe we have learned that lesson after the last lot of terrorists were not jailed here and they were set free early...
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Post by Brenton on Mar 22, 2019 10:40:20 GMT 12
I think the French demonstrated quite clearly just how our political systems can operate. (Winstone Peters will be ageing fast I'd imagine.) I say we keep the guy here and try and find out as much as possible about him , his motivations, and just in case, if anyone else or organisation had any involvement in this attack. BTW... I see myself as a conspiracy analyst not a conspiracy theorist. Just as an observation, how many would have imagined the French Government doing what they did to us prior to the event. Not many I'd say. So don't let him go.
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Post by mcmaster on Mar 22, 2019 12:38:01 GMT 12
I don't think there is going to be much depth to the organisation of his shocking crime. His pathology though is another matter. If the suggestion above is that he may be an operative of Government(s), to me, is nonsense. That goes with any suggestion that Australia will want anything approximating leniency for him(it).
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Post by Mustang51 on Mar 22, 2019 13:45:12 GMT 12
Let him rot in hell........
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Post by Dave Homewood on Mar 22, 2019 21:36:37 GMT 12
Did you see the police announced yesterday that when the officers apprehended him he was on his way to a third mosque for another go! Thank goodness those who policemen were on the ball and stopped the prick. They did an absolutely amazing job, two rural cops coming straight from a course on how to handle an offender with a gun, they decided to skirt the city rather than take the main roads through the centre s they figured he might do that - and their hunch was right. They spotted his car driving erratically with hazard lights on, and did a u-turn to pursue. They confirmed it was the car that had been reported and in a split second decision they decided to ram him off the road. Clearly it took the offender by surprise and he was screwed. The arrest came just 21 minutes after the first shot was fired, I read. Amazing police work, they need to both be given the highest award for carrying out an incredible capture, and also preventing further deaths. Proper heroes, those two.
Some numpty papers reported they were unarmed but it's not true, they were undertaking a weapons course and had their weapons in their car. Our police seem to carry guns more and more these days. However they use them responsibly for the mos part and I do not worry that they are now armed more frequently. These two gents never took the opportunity to shoot the offender, when they could easily have done so, running on adrenaline and anger. Proper heroes.
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Post by Brenton on Mar 22, 2019 21:53:24 GMT 12
Warning people that he was hazardous was an interesting decision. My God the conspiracy theorist's will have a field day with that one. What possible reason could he have for doing that ? Oh yeah ... he was in a hurry and completely out of his mind. Your right Dave, those cops were heroes. There were a lot of heroes that day.
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Post by richard1098 on Mar 23, 2019 10:15:56 GMT 12
I don't think there is going to be much depth to the organisation of his shocking crime. His pathology though is another matter. If the suggestion above is that he may be an operative of Government(s), to me, is nonsense. That goes with any suggestion that Australia will want anything approximating leniency for him(it). Agreed. Any suggestion that the Australian government would seek leniency for him, or any other Australian national or expat who commits serious crimes, is total and utter nonsense. An interview with his family seemed to indicate NZ has been his place of residence since 2013, so even if he was totally a lone wolf, who he associated with will be of interest, particularly if they had any insights into his motivations.
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