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Post by Mustang51 on Mar 15, 2019 16:15:50 GMT 12
I have just heard about and seen the footage of what has occurred in Christchurch at the mosques. I am ashamed to say that the name of Australia has been dragged through the scum by those individuals and I wish to express my heartfelt sorrow and condolences for the families and friends of all of those who have been touched by this monsterous crime. There is no place on this planet for anyone who commits a crime of that nature on either side of that or any other religious divide. To film it is incomprehensible to any civilised individual let alone the act itself. When are we all going to learn? I am so sorry.
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Post by gibbo on Mar 15, 2019 16:42:10 GMT 12
I have just heard about and seen the footage of what has occurred in Christchurch at the mosque. I am ashamed to say that the name of Australia has been dragged through the scum by that individual and I wish to express my heartfelt sorrow and condolences for the families and friends of all of those who have been touched by this monsterous crime. There is no place on this planet for anyone who commits a crime of that nature on either side of that or any other religious divide. To film it is incomprehensible to any civilised individual let alone the act itself. When are we all going to learn? I am so sorry. Absolutely, there's no room in this world for uncivilised bigots like this. The thoughts of us all are with the families involved. Commissioner of Police has just stated in a press conference 4 apparently now in custody (3 man, poss. 1 woman)... and that a number of IED have been found on vehicles & made safe by NZDF. NZDF aircraft in Wgtn ready to deploy more resources. |
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Post by 30sqnatc on Mar 15, 2019 17:13:05 GMT 12
Logic suggests it was just a matter of time before something like this occurred in our sleepy hollow but that does not reduce the shock of it actually occurring. My thoughts go to the families of those involved, the bystanders and the members of the responding emergency services.
I hope they have caught the ba****ds.
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Post by johnnyfalcon on Mar 15, 2019 18:30:27 GMT 12
One block from where I was working today. 7:00 pm, just got home from lockdown of the building in which I was working. I've never seen such Police and Defence activity, even in the aftermath of the earthquakes. It brings back memories and emotions...
This will be a watershed event for the innocence of NZ. There is never a justifiable reason for such wanton bloodshed. My sympathies to all affected by this horror.
Eye for eye, from where I sit...
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Post by camtech on Mar 15, 2019 19:08:09 GMT 12
40 dead - what a sad day for us all.
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Post by 30sqnatc on Mar 15, 2019 19:26:56 GMT 12
Come very interesting comments from Paul Buchanan on TV1 on the intelligence aspects of this tragedy.
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Post by camtech on Mar 15, 2019 20:34:21 GMT 12
Update - 49 now dead. One male charged with murder.
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Post by Mustang51 on Mar 15, 2019 21:05:25 GMT 12
I feel sick and ashamed
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Post by gibbo on Mar 15, 2019 21:22:18 GMT 12
I too feel sick and ashamed, this is not who we are! I'm also incredibly proud of our emergency services & medical staff. My god that video of 2 cops dragging one of the men out of a car is incredible - given the whole situation & what had just happened these 2 cops had balls of steel to ram him, jump out take him down with a handgun & rifle. Going on their uniforms they weren't AOS or STG ... they need to get recognised formally for doing that. 2nd cousin was working in a private hospital when a victim, hit 4 times, staggered in... imagine dealing with this stuff! |
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Post by dade on Mar 15, 2019 23:11:58 GMT 12
My condolences to the families of the deceased. The person that caused this outrage may have been born in Australian, but he is no Australian. He has lost all value as a human person.
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Post by vultee43 on Mar 15, 2019 23:59:19 GMT 12
My heartfelt sympathies go out to all New Zealanders and in particular the Islamic community. I am at a loss as to how in such a beautiful and peaceful place like Christchurch this could happen. As a former short term resident of Christchurch, no words can convey the horror this conjures in my mind and how it will affect the most selfless and friendly people in our world. What do we have to say or do to stop these senseless acts against our fellow humans? Stay strong and keep looking forward.
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Post by thomarse on Mar 16, 2019 6:21:56 GMT 12
Well said vultee43; I feel the same.
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Post by Bearcat on Mar 16, 2019 7:01:17 GMT 12
What happened is so un NZ its difficult to believe... sadly though, crazy people can happen anywhere, but the likelihood of this happening in NZ would have been close to the bottom of the list
My thoughts from South Africa.
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Post by patmurphy on Mar 16, 2019 7:19:30 GMT 12
Just awful. It's been all over the news in the UK all day. Firstly, I want to pass on my condolences to those who have lost family and friends and also to your nation, for having to suffer this terror on your streets. Of all the places in the world I have been I thought, it now transpires wrongly, that New Zealand had escaped the menace of Terrorism. If I am brutally honest though, I was surprised that your terror threat was set as low, given the state of the rest of the world. I had never noticed until this year's trip, that airports don't have security as a given ( I believe aircraft with under 70 seats have no x ray screening of luggage?). That doesn't appear to have been an issue on this occasion but maybe that will have to change now. There will be lots of time for investigating what went wrong and how this low life managed to avoid the authorities, but ablove all else, you have to carry on living your life as a country, the way you do. Try and go about your business as normal, be as tolerant as I know your country is, but maybe you might just have to be a bit more aware and vigilant that these Bas***ds are out there.  Pat |
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Post by ErrolC on Mar 16, 2019 7:27:56 GMT 12
... If I am brutally honest though, I was surprised that your terror threat was set as low, given the state of the rest of the world. I had never noticed until this year's trip, that airports don't have security as a given ( I believe aircraft with under 70 seats have no x ray screening of luggage?). That doesn't appear to have been an issue on this occasion but maybe that will have to change now. ... I think the relevant factor (or at least one of them) is that the aircraft can't reach another country. In practice, the ATRs, Q300s etc |
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Post by delticman on Mar 16, 2019 8:07:54 GMT 12
... If I am brutally honest though, I was surprised that your terror threat was set as low, given the state of the rest of the world. I had never noticed until this year's trip, that airports don't have security as a given ( I believe aircraft with under 70 seats have no x ray screening of luggage?). That doesn't appear to have been an issue on this occasion but maybe that will have to change now. ... I think the relevant factor (or at least one of them) is that the aircraft can't reach another country. In practice, the ATRs, Q300s etc I find this strange. WHY couldn't the baggage be screened? Christchurch is an International Airport. Somehow Auckland manage to screen baggage and a Convair going to Norfolk. Or was it just in the "Too Hard" basket for the Christchurch staff or was it driven by other forces? Perhaps, it just another "Kick in the Guts" for the provinces by our former national airline? We really need an answer on this. |
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Post by patmurphy on Mar 16, 2019 11:36:33 GMT 12
I think the relevant factor (or at least one of them) is that the aircraft can't reach another country. In practice, the ATRs, Q300s etc I find this strange. WHY couldn't the baggage be screened? Christchurch is an International Airport. Somehow Auckland manage to screen baggage and a Convair going to Norfolk. Or was it just in the "Too Hard" basket for the Christchurch staff or was it driven by other forces? Perhaps, it just another "Kick in the Guts" for the provinces by our former national airline? We really need an answer on this. Maybe the security issue is a debate for another day . Just been reported on the UK news that the terrorist, for that is what he is, not a "shooter" or a "mentalist" as some less reputable media outlets would refer to him, has been charged and formally identified. Not sure what your penalties are for mass murder, but a long and uncomfortable sentence would be welcome in my eyes. |
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Post by ErrolC on Mar 16, 2019 11:46:33 GMT 12
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Life_imprisonment_in_New_ZealandLife imprisonment has been the most severe criminal sentence in New Zealand since the death penalty was abolished in 1989. Offenders sentenced to life imprisonment must serve a minimum of 10 years imprisonment before they are eligible for parole, although the sentencing judge may set a longer minimum period or no minimum period at all (i.e. life without parole). Released offenders remain on parole and are subject to electronic tagging for the rest of their life. ... The longest minimum period of imprisonment on a sentence of life imprisonment is 30 years, currently being served by William Dwane Bell. No person in New Zealand has yet been sentenced to life imprisonment without the possibility of parole.
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Post by ams888 on Mar 16, 2019 13:12:38 GMT 12
As an Australian citizen i am assuming he would then be deported back to Australia if he was ever released?
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Post by Mustang51 on Mar 16, 2019 13:45:00 GMT 12
Throw him out half way across the ditch. He has caused so much pain and anxiety not only in New Zealand but around the world that he should never be released.
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