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Post by Luther Moore on Sept 17, 2011 4:12:29 GMT 12
Oggie, If you get a chance check out the show ''Time Team''they dig up a Spitfire in a field in France,Very good show!
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Post by Luther Moore on Sept 17, 2011 1:03:21 GMT 12
Dave,Do you still have your coins?I have alot of 1950 and 40's NZ coins
Appart from the coins I also have a few things of relatives in the wars like medals,photos,patches,letters',bullets,a logbook and all sorts of little stuff.I also have a M1 Vietnam steel helmet. Does anyone have the RNZAF wing patch?the one with only one wing,I'm trying to find one to add to my collection but the RNZAF ones are very hard to find.
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Post by Luther Moore on Sept 15, 2011 22:25:21 GMT 12
That's what I would do,bring a laptop and scanner.Scanner is the best thing for it so you can scan the pages and zoom into parts you could't see in a photo by a camera. Scanners are very good for old photo's,some of the photo's I have scanned you can zoom right in to see the face on the Pilot's in planes and even planes in the background.
I wonder if like Dave said there are photo's of these crashes mentioned in the Endorsement form?
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Post by Luther Moore on Sept 14, 2011 23:11:06 GMT 12
Was it common for them to destroy the logbooks because the pain of the War?if that's what you meant.
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Post by Luther Moore on Sept 14, 2011 19:04:23 GMT 12
I know what you mean Andy, it's hard to find one for sale these days,to think they destroyed 6500 ft of shelves full makes you feel sick.
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Post by Luther Moore on Sept 14, 2011 16:59:16 GMT 12
Maybe they were paranoid and didn't want anyone knowing anything?
So I'm wondering now Dave, would My grandfather had to of apply for the logbook of his Brother?
Imagine how many logbooks were destroyed after the war because people didn't think how valuable they would be a few years later,6500 feet of logbook shelves destroyed,I dont even want to think about it.
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Post by Luther Moore on Sept 14, 2011 16:20:49 GMT 12
From England,
We are often asked whether we hold a specific person's log book. When aircrew were reported missing their effects were collected together and held in a central depository. Whilst in most cases their property was later handed over to next of kin, unclaimed logbooks were retained by the Air Ministry. By 1959, these unclaimed logbooks covered some 6500 feet of shelving. It was decided that representative samples would be preserved in the Public Record Office and the remainder destroyed at the end of 1960. This decision was announced in the Press and a number of people claimed logbooks. But the vast majority were destroyed, ironically just a few years before the RAF Museum was founded
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Post by Luther Moore on Sept 14, 2011 15:40:13 GMT 12
There are quite a few stories on the Net about stolen logbooks,I read somewhere a guy was trying to track down his Dad's logbook after his Dad donated it to the museum and it was stolen from there.
I also read somewhere thousands of logbooks were destroyed after the war in England I think.
There are some low people out there that's for sure.
Also would flight crews in Bomber Command have logbooks?
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Post by Luther Moore on Sept 13, 2011 14:29:48 GMT 12
Thanks Errol and Angelsonefive.
Thats way more information than I thought I would get about it.
Interesting stories about the other pilots Dave.
What that guy did is so wrong it's not even funny,who would do such a thing?
love the part about Skip Watson being proud of both.
Did the Pilots get a fine with the endorcement forms?
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Post by Luther Moore on Aug 27, 2011 16:00:50 GMT 12
Wow thats great! Is it of a real plane? if so whats the story behind it?
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Post by Luther Moore on Aug 27, 2011 3:03:01 GMT 12
Dave, here is a story from one of My Uncle Bernard's Crew in the death march.
Navigator John Walter Crowe,
He was captured and taken to a camp where the Commandant interrogated him about something for hours. He had a pick, or a plectrum for his guitar in his pocket you see. It was made out of an old ruler with degree marks on it and they thought it was a fiendish new British guidance gadget. Once he told them what it was though, the commandant said "Tell me Mr Crowe, you do know of Burt Weedon? I play ze guitar too you see." They spent the next few hours talking music and guitars and then the commandant had to send him to the camp, albeit with a very heavy heart.
He made a toothbrush out of wood and string (this was even reported in our local paper when he came home!) so that he could stay clean and lived in hope of being rescued. They forced the prisoners, at Christmas, to walk to Poland from Germany. The men were chained in threes and if one died, they had no coice but to drag him with them. The route was lined with guards with rottweilers trained to kill and so they marched and they marched.
One night they all took shelter in a barn and were woken by a massive rumbling and an almighty roaring. Suddenly the wall of the barn caved in and through it came an American ( I think) tank. The lid popped open and a face looked out and said "Bloody hell Johnny Crowe - what the hell are you doing here?"
It was Grandad's next door neighbour from back home in East London. He was helping the Americans on a rescue mission. He threw Grandad a can of bully beef and a can of Christmas Pudding and then set about helping everyone else
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Post by Luther Moore on Aug 26, 2011 22:33:46 GMT 12
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Post by Luther Moore on Aug 26, 2011 21:56:24 GMT 12
Yes it was nasty. The surviving crew Members of Uncle Bernard's plane were in it.
Have you checked out Richie Mccaw's new show?
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Post by Luther Moore on Aug 26, 2011 21:37:47 GMT 12
Thanks for setting my story right.
Dave, are you talking about the death march from Luft 3? sounds like the death march the Germans made the prisoners of Luft3 walk, but I think this was a bit furthur than a few miles.
Htbrst, Very interesting, would you know the name of the movie?,I need to watch it again now it's on my mind.
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Post by Luther Moore on Aug 26, 2011 17:59:22 GMT 12
Hi Guys,
I watched a documentary the other night and they mentioned something very interesting. They spoke about how Pilot's had respect for each other and there were also rules everyone followed, one was never shoot a man after he has bailed out of his aircraft. I also have seen a movie where some Pilot POW's were being mistreated in a German POW camp, when a Luftwaffe Pilot sees the condition they are living in he demands they be moved to a better camp.
Does anyone know anything about this?
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Post by Luther Moore on Aug 23, 2011 0:03:44 GMT 12
Dave, I think you just figured it out, Thanks.
I zoomed in but its to blurry to see the badge on the hat.
Also you see the stick he is holding?could it be the stick they hit the horses with?
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Post by Luther Moore on Aug 22, 2011 22:08:51 GMT 12
Uploaded with ImageShack.usAlso I found this photo it's one of the two mentioned above, but I can't figure out what one. Anyone know if it looks like Maori Battalion or Mounted rifles?
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Post by Luther Moore on Aug 22, 2011 18:28:23 GMT 12
On the subject of Ardmore has anyone tried Google earthing it?
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Post by Luther Moore on Aug 22, 2011 18:18:38 GMT 12
Shorty, can I please have your help with those ribbons? I had three Great Grandfathers serve in WWI, I have all medals of theirs. I know the ribbons in the photos on this thread are from my Fathers side, I have two medals(not in the photo)of
Peter Auckland Moore- Maori Battalion. Peter Dalton -Wellinton mounted rifles, died 1918.
Would you have a clue to who's ribbons belonged to who? Maybe you or someone might have an idea of where these two would of served and what ribbons they would of received?
Cheers
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Post by Luther Moore on Aug 22, 2011 0:44:37 GMT 12
Oh really!Check it out it's going to be a great movie!
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