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Post by harvard1041 on Dec 9, 2008 11:17:07 GMT 12
Hi Dave
Yes - no problem... hey - I'll trade you any war-time Harvards shots ?
Rgds Hvd1041
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Post by harvard1041 on Dec 9, 2008 1:15:41 GMT 12
Ah yes - recall the Vampire in the playground at Woodbourne (next to the Gym now) -about 1971- and the one at Redwoodtown...think they both ended up in a shed in Renwick. Here's the two Harvards you might want to use - Dave. ...surely the Harvard on the pole at Wigram should count ?..can't be that many aircraft up poles ?...Wigram, Harewood spring to mind.
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Post by harvard1041 on Dec 5, 2008 12:46:21 GMT 12
Hello - been away for a few days...but here are a couple more Harvard shots. NZ1046 - on 2 OTU as OD-10 4 OTU MK II ...and some MK IIs in Storage ... how about some other 'older' photos...Hairy ? Rgds John.
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Post by harvard1041 on Dec 5, 2008 7:34:38 GMT 12
Yes - used to strip them at the RD - first job of the Group - then fly them down to the ANZ Paintshop at Harewood - at the end of the Group.
What year did the Groups come back into the RNZAF (from ANZ Mangare) - about 1981 ?...do you know Shorty.
Rgds Hvd1041
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Post by harvard1041 on Nov 24, 2008 1:57:31 GMT 12
I gather Bruce McGill was killed in NZ1020.
I had heard (actually from my old man - since departed) that there were a number of other aircraft out at Birdlings Flat on the day - which was normal -as I believe much of the weapons work was done from there...rockets and the 0.30 cal wing gun....and that several people saw the crash - which was a bad deal.
Bruce had been his Instructor on Wings Course.
Rgds Hvd1041
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Post by harvard1041 on Nov 21, 2008 23:42:36 GMT 12
Great photos again ! - keep them coming
Think the 4 Mustangs might be Ohakea...isn't that the Officers Mess building in the background ?
How about the NAC art-deco hangar - where is that ?
Rgds Hvd1041
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Post by harvard1041 on Nov 21, 2008 0:15:39 GMT 12
Hi Hairy
Wonderful photos there !...just very very neat. What year do you think they would have been taken ?...early 1960s perhaps.
Are there any P-40E or short tailed P-40 shots in amongst your collection.
Off to spend a few hours pouring over these shots.
Rgds Hvd1041
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Post by harvard1041 on Nov 20, 2008 15:17:23 GMT 12
How about a thread on 'old engines' - great (great) thread running as Al works on the Bristol Freighter & Hercules at Omaka ....and the SE5a & Wright-Martin Hisso engines at Masterton...but how about we try and dig out photos of the engines - with a Kiwi connection ? Here's a couple to get things going. 80HP Le Rhone -Pup, Avro504 etc R-1340 - Harvard ] Allison V-1710-39 - P-40E (& P-51A) Hisso - SE5-Spad etc ..lot of petrol-heads out there..
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Post by harvard1041 on Nov 20, 2008 14:24:36 GMT 12
Hi Dave No - it's Brendan Deer's Spitfire at Fielding I believe...making pretty good progress - can't say I know much about it - but looks nice ! Not sure why 1076 would have Checkers cowls and a name in 1976 (I was a school kid at the time) - but its possible Checkers cowls (on and off) wasn't as a strict deal as it became in later years...there were a ton of spare cowls around anyway- and with only a couple of years to run with the Harvard - I have a photo taken at Woodbourne in 1975 - below - no Checkers cowl...perhaps they needed another FAC aircraft at OH - and so 'tarted it up' - happens at times. Someone out there will know ? - actually the current owner who has had it at Ohakea and Fielding since he bought it back in 1978 would know.... How about the older photo I posted of 1076 - previous page -all silver - with a pretty unique Vampire in the background ?...any idea anyone ? Here's my favourite Harvard photo however - NZ1041 on 4(F)OTU at Ohakea 1944. Rgds Hvd1041
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Post by harvard1041 on Nov 20, 2008 10:05:53 GMT 12
OK - three more - than some one elses turn.....must be a ton of old Harvard photos out there...older the better. Ohakea - 1976 - Outside 42s hangar - the two FAC Harvards, couple Daks and NZ1076. ..close up on 1076 - was IGGY Wood the boss at the time ? NZ1076 & NZ1037 - recently...what's the funny looking British aircraft in the middle ?..... Rgds Hvd1041
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Post by harvard1041 on Nov 19, 2008 0:04:52 GMT 12
Hi Hairy Do keep you photos coming - great record. In the same spirit - here's a couple more. NZ944 at MOTAT - 1973 Some of the Harvards in Storage at Woodbourne - 1973 to 1975 ...and NZ1050 when it first went up on the Pole at Wigram - 1973. ..and it flying back in 1961 rgds Hvd1041
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Post by harvard1041 on Nov 18, 2008 0:41:15 GMT 12
Great shots Hairy - how did you get these photos ? ...mine are some I took myself as a kid, others from a friend who is a retired RNZAF Photographer - love those early post-war shots - and ones with the sliding rear hood - most of the aircraft had the sliding mechanism 'cut' at production - RHS of the rear hood and then screwed down...keep them coming ! Here's your NZ1083 - Dave - at WB TTS - before going to WG - kinda nice shot with the 727 & Devons in the background. NZ980 in the Playground - which one ? NZ1079 in the Mountains NZ1037 - out of OH. ...and NZ1034 with Blunites. ...keep them coming - see if we can get an entire thread without any mid-1970 dayglo.
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Post by harvard1041 on Nov 17, 2008 15:00:28 GMT 12
Couple more - then gotta go. NZ1056 (0ne of the FAC aircraft) - WG - 1973 NZ1009 - WB -1974 - believe this is still an 'RNZAF Spare' at OH. NZ909 - 1973 WB (Scrapped in 1974) NZ946 - Jan 76 Hvds & 727 - WB -1984 ...anyone have any war time RNZAF Harvard shots ? Rgds Hvd1041
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Post by harvard1041 on Nov 17, 2008 14:36:07 GMT 12
Hey this is fun.... NZ1034 - OH - 1978 NZ1076 NZ1078 Rgds Hvd1041
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Post by harvard1041 on Nov 17, 2008 13:53:45 GMT 12
Hi again Kinda like Harvards - here are couple of photos. NZ1037 at Ohakea - 1962. NZ1037 at WB - 1975 and NZ1041 at WG - 1961 Lots of great RNZAF photos of Harvards out there - some great ones recently from the Barry Read and also Shorty Mines thread... must be others... Rgds Hvd1041
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Post by harvard1041 on Nov 17, 2008 13:30:02 GMT 12
Hi Guys Think there might be a bit of confusion here...RNZAF MKII, MKIIA, and MKIII are just RAF names for USAAC AT-6A, AT-6C, and AT-6D aircraft resepectively. All the aircraft were essentially the same - SNJ - Harvard - AT-6 ...coming down the NAA (Inglewood or Dallas Line) - just delivered to different Customers. In our case, they had a NAA number, a USAAC number, then a RAF number - and finally an RNZAF number. The RNZAF aircraft were delivered to the British Air Commision - but allocated to the RNZAF. The MKII was essentially a pre-war NAA Part Number 66 - aircraft - backlit instrument panels, early style instruments - a few more Customer Mods...maybe back-to-front mixture controls for the Brits (but not the Kiwi ones). I think the stroy about RH mounted throttle quadrants and back-to-front controls is a rehash of the story about French Spec P-36s & P-40Bs. Here's a photo of a MKII - NZ963at Ashburton. The MKIIA aircraft were an AT-6C. In the case of NZ1041 NAA (North American Aviation) 88-13190 on the NAA Data Plate, USAAC 41-33717 (ie a year 1941 Contracted aircraft), RAF EX744 - on a small brass plate on the Instrument Panel...and then final after allocated to the RNZAF NZ1041. Photo here of the front panel for 1041 (see the little brass RAF plate ? ) Here's a couple of shots of the NZ1044 - also a MKIIA aircraft - showing its Delivery Logs from the NAA Dallas plant - accepted by the Brits - then passed thru to us. The MKIII aircraft were std NAA AT-6D aircraft. The MKIIA* and MKIII* designation were RNZAF post war designations for the (at the time) 'Big Mod' done mid 1950s...when they tried to standardise the aircraft - 24V being one example. The MKII aircraft never made it back into service when flying started post war as far as I know...and were disposed of. Having said this most of the Harvards are 'Paddys Axe' machines with forward fuselage, rear fuse, wings and hori & vertical stabs from several aircraft - some even have the Data Plate of another aircraft (just a plate rivetted on after all). The Canadians also built the Harvard under licence - CCF - Canadian Car & Foundry aircraft were MKII, IIB and (post war) MKIV aircraft...but they different to the 'std' NAA aircraft. Bit of a ramble - but hope it is of interest. Rgds HVD1041
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Post by harvard1041 on Oct 21, 2008 7:59:40 GMT 12
Great photos - keep them coming !
I think at one stage - many people had bits of NZ6207 (Fred Kinvig at OH- 1974) as souvenirs - being the first A-4 to crash... (believe John Dick's fatal - 1981 was the second ?) - I know at WB there were various bits - including a mock-up (used at the Court of Inquiry) showing how the pressure plate of the oil pump could be installed backwards - which was the basic cause of the crash.
Keep the photos coming - especially like the Harvard shots out of Wigram - late '50 - early -60s.
Rgds Hvd1041
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Post by harvard1041 on Oct 20, 2008 19:48:48 GMT 12
Some really great photos in there... 'Yes Please' - keep posting them !
Can anyone identify the CFS pilots there ?... believe Stu Boys is one of them.
Rgds Hvd1041
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Post by harvard1041 on Oct 6, 2008 1:16:26 GMT 12
I was actually there trying to find the grave of FO Bruce Hosie - my great uncle from Taranaki - who was a WOAG killed in Oct 44 bombing the Kembs Barrage...found it and his Pilot (Drew Wyness) next to each other. They were both 617 Sqn people and died in pretty tragic circumstances after being shot down during the raid. 'Night after Night' has a good write up of what happened. Rgds Hvd1041 s430.photobucket.com/albums/qq24/Hvd1041/?action=view¤t=BruceHoiseandJohn2.jpg
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Post by harvard1041 on Oct 6, 2008 1:11:02 GMT 12
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