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Post by efliernz on Apr 3, 2012 12:56:04 GMT 12
The Texan commentary... a very mainstream american presentation. It was a factory demo - and that is the way they do it there. I too thought the actual display was well done. A nice machine.
I think there will be a heap of reviews (well there should be) to see what the good and bad descisions were. I does seem a little short-sited (in my mind) for an anniversary airshow to cancel historical formation displays.
Timing is everything... just like the belief that all cars would be off the base by 4:45... ha ha ha
Sorry... couldn't help it. Still... was a great day for $10!
Pete
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Post by corsair67 on Apr 3, 2012 13:59:58 GMT 12
I wonder if anyone can confirm for me that "pedantic nitpicker" is a tautology?  Colin, I don't believe in tautology - never have, never will. All that mumbo-jumbo rubbish about Librans, Geminis, Cancerians and Taureans does nothing at all for me at all. Anyway, I wonder if all the yelling and finger pointing at Ohakea and in various offices in Wellington will have ended yet?  |
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Post by saratoga on Apr 3, 2012 17:50:06 GMT 12
I wonder if anyone can confirm for me that "pedantic nitpicker" is a tautology? Colin, I don't believe in tautology - never have, never will. All that mumbo-jumbo rubbish about Librans, Geminis, Cancerians and Taureans does nothing at all for me at all. Anyway, I wonder if all the yelling and finger pointing at Ohakea and in various offices in Wellington will have ended yet? Most likely patting themselves on the back for a job well done, what- ho, old chap! |
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Post by phil82 on Apr 3, 2012 18:03:24 GMT 12
[quote )[/quote] Anyway, I wonder if all the yelling and finger pointing at Ohakea and in various offices in Wellington will have ended yet? [/quote] I have it on good authority that the burning meteor seen over Wellington last night wasn't...it was the guy who organised the traffic plan. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 3, 2012 18:11:16 GMT 12
I have it on good authority that the burning meteor seen over Wellington last night wasn't...it was the guy who organised the traffic plan. ;D I like it. I must apologise for my comments on the Texan, it certainly was spectacular, but as the penultimate display in an air show celebrating the RNZAF I found it out of place. Kudos to the team for bringing it downunder despite their troubles back home: www.reuters.com/article/2012/03/28/us-hawkerbeechcraft-idUSBRE82R19K20120328 |
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Post by Peter Lewis on Apr 3, 2012 20:40:22 GMT 12
It occurred to me last night that it would have been really nice to see the oldest airworthy ex-military aircraft in New Zealand at this airshow. Possibly more relevant than the Fokker and Brisfit (though it was quite nice to see those as well).
I refer, of course, to the Avro 504 ZK-ACU now at Masterton. It served with the NZPAF from 1925 to 1931.
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Post by johnnyfalcon on Apr 3, 2012 21:49:29 GMT 12
It occurred to me last night that it would have been really nice to see the oldest airworthy ex-military aircraft in New Zealand at this airshow. Possibly more relevant than the Fokker and Brisfit (though it was quite nice to see those as well). I refer, of course, to the Avro 504 ZK-ACU now at Masterton. It served with the NZPAF from 1925 to 1931. Currently without engine... |
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Post by baz62 on Apr 3, 2012 22:11:15 GMT 12
FJ I watched the Spitfire backtrack, then shut down and initially thought there might be a problem, but when I realised his slot had been cancelled, while watching a couple of hoons burn rubber in a Holden and Ford, and I thought WTF!!!!!! All in all a ridiculously ill-considered decision! Are the Show Committee , whoever, anonymous I wonder? [The Texan impressed me, although the commentary was dreadful!] Backtrack? He took off and formed up with the two seater then came back and landed didn't he? Why on earth they didnt get them to do a flypast down the runway is beyond me. A stupid decision for an airshow commemorating the RNZAF!! |
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Post by Dave Homewood on Apr 3, 2012 22:54:58 GMT 12
Where did I say that Zac, I don't recall saying that. Pg7 of the Warbirds Over Wanaka 2012 thread: Well, it is a warbird airshow, modern Air Force stuff is just ephemera really. I knew I must have been misquoted. Thanks for proving it. You reckoned "This, after having said just a month ago modern jets have no place at a warbirds show?" I never said that at all, as you have proven. I said at a warbirds show they are ephemera, as in gap fillers, not the main theme, extras over and above the real warbirds. I never said they had "no place". Are you training to be a journalist? |
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Post by Dave Homewood on Apr 3, 2012 23:08:14 GMT 12
I must say in all the airshows I have been too and all the times I saw one or the other display, this airshow was the first time I have ever seen the RNZAF Historic Flight's Harvard and Tiger Moth fly together in formation, and to see them with their modern day counterpart CT/4E too was pretty neat.
Also I really enjoyed seeing Simon in the Thunder Mustang, he did another great display. All the flying at this show was top notch as far as I am concerned. Seeing four whockas in the air together was damned cool too.
Overall it was a spendid show and real value for money. Roll on the next RNZAF show, which I hope will be back at Whenuapai next year?
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Post by htbrst on Apr 4, 2012 6:32:42 GMT 12
From the herald - kinda related to the 75th birthday...   ;D |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2012 9:33:14 GMT 12
Haha! I like that one.
Apologies Dave, I was caught up in the heat of the moment. After I quoted you I reread it and was all: ".......oh, whoops...."
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Post by flyjoe180 on Apr 4, 2012 11:43:59 GMT 12
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Post by nige on Apr 4, 2012 23:46:49 GMT 12
It's been interesting to read this thread - just some observations. My best laid plans to leave Palmy 0800-0830 fell through so we got away just after 0900, all went well until we encountered the traffic jam SH3 just prior to Mt Stewart and after waiting for ages (saw ambulance heading towards Palmy due to accident), turned around and at Awahuri turned into Green Rd & up Rongotea Rd (a handful of other cars were doing the same), hit the SH1 intersection and saw a similar jam heading north so (fortunately) decided to follow vehicle in front and go straight ahead instead into Campion Rd and then turned into Tangimoana Rd. All good but eventually slowed down to a crawl when near the Speedy Rd intersection (there a NZDF chap in DPM's was directing the merging of traffic - he did a great job - but certainly saw no civilian traffic management people, Police nor even roadsigns).
(And a work colleague we encountered when on base said they were held up in the same SH3 Mt Stewart spot, like most from the East, so instead back-tracked a bit and then headed north-east/north-west to Halcome and drove south straight into Ohakea via SH1 no hold-ups at all, so go figure)!
Didn't mind as we could see the action in the distance (and could listen to the airshow commentary on FM 88MHz which was really handy and it was the commentators on FM88 that informed us that the delays were happening as no local radio stations around here anymore as most being syndicated etc) eg A109 and biplanes, saw the F/A-18 4 ship take-off/climb vertically. Took ages to crawl to the airbase but again didn't mind as we could see the action around us. The other cars didn't seem to mind either as they were also driving slowly and watching the action (and some were actually stopping to take photos out of their cars) so perhaps this was also another contributing factor to the traffic hold-ups?
Anyway crawled past the end of the main runway, windows down of course to absorb the atmosphere and that coincided with the 4 F/A-18's doing their final high-speed run down the runway and all I can say that was literally ear shattering as they flew overhead!
Got into base just after 11am heading towards car park (directed into 2nd left hand one in field, when heading east on Pukenui Rd & didn't notice any signs denoting ticket holders/non-ticket holders needed to follow a particluar route) to see the 757 take-off (but didn't see what else it did in terms of display) but here's the 'funny' thing, when parked up and trekking out of car park (and thanks to a helpful RNZAF or Cadet Forces guy who alerted us to a car park close to the entrance gate) another RNZAF person asked us if we had tickets (I had pre-bought ours) so said yes and went to get them out for her but she said that's ok but show them to the people by the car park gate but when we got to the car park gate we looked and wandered around but couldn't see anyone to give them to! Once out of gate it was short stroll to the Army tents and RAAF F/A-18 & C-17 static displays and again couldn't see who to give tickets to, so continued in. My point is, did the RNZAF lose out on revenue from people that would have bought tickets at the gate but perhaps like me just strolled in and they weren't asked to pay??? From my observations, heaps of other people simply strolled in too (although I have no idea if they had pre-paid tickets or not)! Perhaps attendance numbers were much higher than the 60-70k!
Anyway, the rest was great and I'd like to thank the people (NZDF/NZCF) who had to miss the action close-up when on traffic/parking duties as they all were courteous - I hope they were on shifts meaning they could spend some time on the airfield actually watching the flying and static displays!
Final note I recall the 81 airshow parking, us from the south parked by the sport feild (ammo dumps?) and turned off SH1, from memory, before Sanson? If my memory is correct then, this time having the SH1 (south) traffic and SH3 (east) traffic all go thru Sanson can't have helped! (Apart from us naughty ones taking the backroads this time)!
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Post by Peter Lewis on Apr 4, 2012 23:54:50 GMT 12
The C-17 departed off RW08 at 1455hrs, presumably back home to Hawaii. Looks like I was wrong. The C-17 55147 approach and landing on WP runway 08 at dusk yesterday   |
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Post by Dave Homewood on Apr 5, 2012 18:41:30 GMT 12
A random snippet from the airshow that has come to mind - that is how many lost kids there were at this airshow.
The poor comentary team had to take responsibility for reuniting dumb-arse familes who cannot control their kids - and there seemed to be several every hour, almost all of which had stupendously daft and hilarious names.
One of the best I heard was a lost three year old looking for his "Uncle Bulldozer"!
But the one that took the cake for the day was the mother who'd lost her two kids, Diamond and Justice. Huh? No wonder they ran away. ;D
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Post by Hoffy on Apr 5, 2012 21:03:56 GMT 12
Mate that is bloody hilarious.
I mean really , why would you name children like that?
And Uncle Bulldozer - sounds like he obviously had some Tonka trucks etc as a child.
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Post by Dave Homewood on Apr 5, 2012 21:20:47 GMT 12
My mate Steve was laughing so much at Justice and Diamond he had to text it to his missus at home, to give her a laugh too. ;D
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Post by Dave Homewood on Apr 5, 2012 21:22:31 GMT 12
I should add that Steve and I were thinking of going to the commentary team and asking them to page Mr Stoatgobler for us. (for those of us old enough to recall that famous McPhail and Gadsby sketch) ;D
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Post by corsair67 on Apr 5, 2012 22:05:47 GMT 12
I'm just imaging what the parents of Diamond and Justice even look like. The other thing is that their names are probably spelt something more like Diemund and Juztice! |
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