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Post by The Red Baron on Jun 13, 2020 20:56:49 GMT 12
Stan Blackmores tourist sightseeing operation at the old Rotorua aerodrome in Fenton St.It was bought out by James Aviation early 1950's.James ran it as a seperate operation to the topdressing division.However often the topdressing pilots flew the tourist flights.James sold the sightseeing operation in the late 1960's I think it was.
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Post by nutjob on Jun 14, 2020 19:34:29 GMT 12
I'd be keen to know if there were any photos of WACO UOC ZK-AEL in the collection?
AEL was bought by Stan Blackmore from the Marlborough Aero Club in 1948 after a landing incident at Omaka saw it written off. She was ultimately absorbed into the James Aviation fleet and ended her days at Rotarua in 1958 after being flipped on her back by a new pilot...
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Post by madmax on Jun 15, 2020 0:21:47 GMT 12
Waco ZK-ALA did not end her days after being flipped on her back but was sold to Giltrap's Museum Queensland. It was later sold to a chap in Sydney whose name escapes me at the moment and was stored at Camden airfield for many years. It is now back in New Zealand and under restoration at Omaka.
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Post by cronicash on Jun 15, 2020 19:18:45 GMT 12
Okay so Stanley James Blackmore is my great grandfather. My grandfather Sir Robert james scott (Bob) married stans daughter (Ann).
I am yet to go though boxes of photos and many log books from both of them.
Was wondering if anyone had some photos of things of interest i should be looking out for? That may be worth posting here?
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Post by Dave Homewood on Jun 15, 2020 21:46:54 GMT 12
There seem to have been a few pilots named Bob Scott, I have heard of one that flew Hudsons, and I thin one who flew Catalinas that was not the same man I don't think, and one who I think flew topdressers.... can you give a precis of your grandfather's service and career please?
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Post by nutjob on Jun 15, 2020 21:52:12 GMT 12
My apologies Madmax.... My poor choice of words was meant to reflect that her James Aviation days were ended in 1958... I can fill in the rest of the history if you want...
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Post by madmax on Jun 16, 2020 10:54:47 GMT 12
Hi Nutjob, I recall that Waco ALA when stored at Camden was owned by Nick ? who operated an aircraft servicing business on Kingsford Smith airport during the 1990s and was co-pilot of DC-3 VH-EDC which crashed in Botany Bay in 1994 after engine failure. He also had a Boeing Stearman.
In the mid 1950s in the Council hangar on Rongotai airfield was a stack of aircraft mainplanes, mainly Tiger Moth, however one wing shorter than the other and painted either in red primer dope or brown stood out and I was told it was from a Waco, I later came to believe this was off AEL.
I look forward to your history of the aircraft
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Post by starr on Jun 16, 2020 13:43:01 GMT 12
Dave, the Bob Scott who married Stan Blackmore's daughter was the first NZ helicopter pilot flying for James Aviation Ltd. He was James training pilot on Fletchers for many years based in Rotorua.
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Post by cronicash on Jun 16, 2020 17:30:21 GMT 12
Thats right. Was also a test pilot for some of the first fletchers at Hamilton. My father cannot recall him flying catalinas sorry. He did also fly 4fu4 in canada and the mosquito here.
Trained in fletchers for over 26 years i believe.
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Post by Dave Homewood on Jun 16, 2020 19:24:07 GMT 12
Thanks.
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Post by cronicash on Jun 28, 2020 11:17:58 GMT 12
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Post by Peter Lewis on Jul 6, 2020 0:09:46 GMT 12
The PT-6 Fletcher was, of course, the F.1060 ZK-CTZ - now at MoTAT. Its initial flight was in 1967.
Hiller ZK-HAB was operated by James Jan1955 - May 1956 before going on to Helicopter Services Ltd., a joint co formed by James & others.
Tiger Moth ZK-APW crashed at Te Anga 11Dec51. Pilot Leslie D Brookes. Of course the photos may not have been of this incident, but as its life with James was just two years it would seem likely.
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Post by cronicash on Jul 10, 2020 8:57:16 GMT 12
Bob Scott training with Mike Meager from the states... "Self" is Bob Scott working for Ossie at the time   |
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Post by The Red Baron on Jan 24, 2021 17:51:02 GMT 12
Taken 6 years but I was finally able to verify the pilot on the right talking to Frank Jarvis is Bruce Oliver,former RAF Spitfire pilot in Europe & Malta,and postwar Catalinas & DC-3's with the RNZAF.Joined James Aviation in 1955 and later flew with Adastra and sadly died in an accident 1959.  |
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Post by Dave Homewood on Jun 28, 2021 12:14:59 GMT 12
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Post by fadge on Jul 23, 2021 21:34:58 GMT 12
Hi Cronicrash... I knew your grandfather well. I went to school with Cameron and Bradley Scott.
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Post by Antonio on Sept 12, 2021 12:00:39 GMT 12
As in...
ZK-ARB was Ossie James' original Tiger Moth, predating his ownership of ZK-AJO by several months.
The 'Pluto' motif seems to have followed it around for most of its civil life, as I also have a photo of it as a two-holer with a similar motif at Paraparamumu prior to its Ag-Tiger days.
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Post by Peter Lewis on Sept 13, 2021 8:53:26 GMT 12
Sure. ZK-ARB at Paraparaumu 1950  |
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Post by Antonio on Sept 13, 2021 13:11:22 GMT 12
Awesome shot, thanks Peter.
Am I correct that ARB was converted to an Ag-Tiger in 1948 for service with O.G. James at Tologa Bay, followed by private owners as a two-seater?
Or was it converted in 1950?
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Post by cronicash on Aug 21, 2022 17:36:03 GMT 12
Hi Cronicrash... I knew your grandfather well. I went to school with Cameron and Bradley Scott. Yeah cameron is my father. Small world. Cheers |
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