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Post by Dave Homewood on Jan 13, 2013 11:23:09 GMT 12
Lots of Oxfords wore silver schemes too, especially postwar as it was standard.
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Post by kiwithrottlejockey on Jan 13, 2013 12:15:07 GMT 12
Thanks for the airshow pic great to look back to a time when our RNZAF attended every display it could , Curious about the building on the right side of the photo.could this be the original WRAC club house ?Later to be burned down,
They have a vast number of aviation photos from Wairarapa, although only a tiny fraction of them are available online; however the entire collection is catalogued on their website (which is hosted by Masterton District Council). One day, I'm going to spend an afternoon looking through their collection of photographs. They are in Queen Street, less than five minutes walk from my place. |
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Post by baz62 on Jan 13, 2013 13:32:06 GMT 12
Lots of Oxfords wore silver schemes too, especially postwar as it was standard. Oh to be the seller of silver paint back then! Thanks Dave. |
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Post by seafire on Jan 13, 2013 16:36:57 GMT 12
My father (Geoff White) tells me he flew a Dakota to Kaitaia in 1950 when in 41 Squadron to resupply 75 Squadron and the Mosquitos there on exercise for two weeks. A couple of names of pilots mentioned were Ron Short, Gordon Shearer. He has a photo somewhere which I've asked him to find.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 13, 2013 17:49:08 GMT 12
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Post by suthg on Jan 13, 2013 18:01:21 GMT 12
Possibly just six jets together in formation at an airshow in NZ? But at least it does say or imply at Hood. BTW, thanks for the link. Interesting reading.
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Post by phil82 on Jan 13, 2013 18:02:24 GMT 12
Possibly, dunno really, bit I doubt it would be a record. 111 Squadron RAF in the Hunter F6 once did a 22 aircraft loop!
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Post by Dave Homewood on Jan 13, 2013 18:52:27 GMT 12
Um, Kiwi Red used to do a six-ship loop!!
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Post by baz62 on Jan 13, 2013 21:55:29 GMT 12
Someone needs to tell them then! Of course as it's a CIVILIAN team then it might well be a first. And being even more clever a first for THIS airshow.
EDIT: Yep I was right, on the WOW website they are calling it the first time a civilian jet display team has done it.
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Post by Dave Homewood on Jan 13, 2013 22:13:55 GMT 12
The article clearly states that the loop attempt will be the first at the Wings Over Wairarapa airshow. My response that Kiwi Red used to do it in their routine (regularly) was to the question of if this was attempting a New Zealand record - it isn't.
The article however states, "Flying in such close proximity means hand signals are the most effective way to communicate."
Surely radio would be the most effective and safe way to communicate, wouldn't it? If the pilots are all watching each others wingtips in close formation surely they don't also want to be watching for handsignals too?
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Post by DragonflyDH90 on Jan 14, 2013 7:15:28 GMT 12
Nope Dave, hand signals are still the preferred method. There are a few radio calls from time to time but generally speaking hand signals are the go.
You dont watch a wing tip but use bearing lines, for example, a place on the wing that if you draw a line through intersects with the spinner (each aircraft has different points that you tend to use for bearing lines). You are in essence sighting between two points to keep all the angles looking the same, the guys on both sides use the same points and therefore the angles should be the same when viewed from the ground.
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Post by Dave Homewood on Jan 14, 2013 8:10:36 GMT 12
Thanks for that Ryan. I was basing my knowledge on what I have seen of military teams where all the communication seems to be via radio, such as "Bomb burst; bomb burst go." etc. So is this a different method or are the military teams also using hand signals that I have never conciously picked up on before? By the way, the 7 day weather forecast charts show that rain is coming for Wairarapa this week but Friday onwars looks good. www.metvuw.com/forecast/forecast.php?type=rain®ion=nzni&noofdays=7 |
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Post by Mustang51 on Jan 14, 2013 11:39:21 GMT 12
Please no rain, no rain, no rain.................
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Post by skyhawkdon on Jan 14, 2013 11:39:42 GMT 12
75 Sqn did a 9-ship loop over Ohakea in 1991 to celebrate the unit's 75th anniversay.
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Post by Ykato on Jan 14, 2013 11:42:52 GMT 12
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Post by baz62 on Jan 14, 2013 11:43:57 GMT 12
The article clearly states that the loop attempt will be the first at the Wings Over Wairarapa airshow. My response that Kiwi Red used to do it in their routine (regularly) was to the question of if this was attempting a New Zealand record - it isn't. The article however states, "Flying in such close proximity means hand signals are the most effective way to communicate." Surely radio would be the most effective and safe way to communicate, wouldn't it? If the pilots are all watching each others wingtips in close formation surely they don't also want to be watching for handsignals too? Yes the article said that but as mentioned in my previous post the website said it is a first for a civilian team. Does that qualify for a NZ record or does it not matter whether it is civilian or military team? |
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Post by Dave Homewood on Jan 14, 2013 12:17:39 GMT 12
I am sure that the "record books" reference was just a turn of phrase that the journalist was using, and has confused some people here.
Sure it will be the first time civilian owned jets do a six-ship loop at an airshow if they achieve that, and I hope they do. I will be most pleased to see it and will make note of it in my Airshow Archives if they do it.
All I was trying to say was a few people seemed to get from the article that a six-ship jet team had never done a loop in NZ before, but Kiwi Red did, and at lots of airshows and displays over cities. That's all. I wasn't trying to split any hairs.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2013 13:23:25 GMT 12
I just wanted to figure out what Matt - who normally has the local government round - meant by "record books". Interesting stuff though!
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Post by baz62 on Jan 14, 2013 14:54:45 GMT 12
I am sure that the "record books" reference was just a turn of phrase that the journalist was using, and has confused some people here. Sure it will be the first time civilian owned jets do a six-ship loop at an airshow if they achieve that, and I hope they do. I will be most pleased to see it and will make note of it in my Airshow Archives if they do it. All I was trying to say was a few people seemed to get from the article that a six-ship jet team had never done a loop in NZ before, but Kiwi Red did, and at lots of airshows and displays over cities. That's all. I wasn't trying to split any hairs. No I didn't think you were Dave just curious about the record if one existed. Yes I see what you meant about the "take" from the article, journos do sometimes embellish things or get the wrong idea don't they.  They need to check facts with a certain forum eh Dave!  |
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Post by suthg on Jan 14, 2013 15:30:16 GMT 12
Perhaps he was hoping for free tickets ...
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