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Post by ErrolC on Jan 13, 2014 6:18:24 GMT 12
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Post by vs on Jan 13, 2014 7:16:38 GMT 12
Hope New Zealand does not loose to much of its collection. What those guys are doing at TVAL is amazing! Be great to see the RNZAF Museum buy some of TVAL airplanes….would be a great fit to their collection.
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Post by Andy Wright on Jan 13, 2014 9:14:35 GMT 12
A wonderful idea. This will certainly bring WW1 aviation to the fore and in front of, probably, millions of people. I 'stay away' from WW1, as I have enough trouble doing what I do with WW2 aviation, but that doesn't mean the fascination isn't there. The next four years are going to be massive so to have Kiwi ingenuity, artistry and skill displayed front and centre is certaily something to be proud of.
Besides, if any of the aircraft sell up there, TVAL can just build some more...
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Post by nuuumannn on Jan 13, 2014 16:12:17 GMT 12
I think so too. Very few people in the UK warbirds/historical world expected New Zealand to be leading the field in this way. When I worked over there I spoke to a number of people about what was happening and all of them lamented the fact that it was able to happen here and not in the UK for whatever reason. As much as it might be disappointing that aircraft might leave here for overseas, the 100th anniversary commemmorations in the UK will be very big and well attended, so for airshow crowds to see and hear these machines in UK skies will be something quite special - and, of course their origin will be blared across airfields loud and clear through the tannoy.
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Post by ErrolC on Mar 9, 2014 7:24:24 GMT 12
Updates from ww1aviationheritagetrust.co.uk/Published 19/02/2014 Oliver Wulff – a German Collector – has offered his aircraft to WAHT to be based at Stow Maries. Mr Wulff’s intention is to open a flying museum in St Augustin Hangelar (close to Cologne in German) where he has already bought a WW1 hangar built there for his collection. The collection includes a Fokker DVII, a BE2f in 7 Sqn colours, an Albatros DVA in Paul Baumer colours, an RAF SE5a currently in Glyn Lewis livery but possibly being changed to that of Albert Ball. He also has interests in WW2 aircraft – a Fiesler Storch Fil56 C3 1049 currently under restoration and shares in a Curtiss P40. Mr Wulff is looking forward to linking up with WAHT and is very happy to get engaged in supporting the Trust’s work. The BE2 is being flight tested next week and shipped to the UK the week after, arriving in Stow Maries in April. Published 05/03/2014 | By Dick Forsythe Oliver Wulff’s BE2e (above) will be flight tested this week at Hood Aerodrome Masterton in order to obtain it’s NZ CAA certification and airworthiness certificate. We are optimistic that it will be ready for shipping by mid-March and in Stow Maries 5-6 weeks later. A second BE2e is being prepared in the same timescale and will be coming to Stow Maries at the same time as the first presentation aircraft. This second aircraft will be a reproduction of A2767 which was based at Stow Maries in 1917. We are keen to find sponsors who will help WHAT acquire this and other aircraft on behalf of the nation to build up an enduring RFC flying presence in UK based at Stow Maries. Your collective help to find sponsors would be much appreciated. Photos at ww1aviationheritagetrust.co.uk/?p=494
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Post by Brett on Mar 9, 2014 8:11:02 GMT 12
I noticed in the press that the aircraft TVAL will be shipping to England include a DH2. I wonder if this is the Redfern-built replica in the AHC, or whether TVAL are building new reproductions?
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Post by aeromuzz on Mar 11, 2014 8:31:10 GMT 12
I noticed in the press that the aircraft TVAL will be shipping to England include a DH2. I wonder if this is the Redfern-built replica in the AHC, or whether TVAL are building new reproductions? From what I've read, most of the display aircraft are to be borrowed from collections in the northern hemisphere. So far, the only aircraft from TVAL is the BE2e mentioned above which is privately owned and possibly another BE2 reproduction (also mentioned above) which as they've mentioned fundraising to buy aircraft, suggests that this is not definite as it's not paid for. SO my guess is that the total number of aircraft to be based at Stow Maries permanently currently numbers 0. In saying that, I also stand to be corrected if anyone knows any more about it.
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Post by Brett on Mar 11, 2014 9:25:36 GMT 12
From the March 2014 issue of Aeroplane (www.aeroplanemonthly.com):
WW1 Aviation Heritage Trust formed An ambitious plan to commemorate the 1914-18 aerial conflict was announced by the newly-formed WW1 Aviation Heritage Trust (AHT) during early January. The trustees include Gene DeMarco, the Production Manager/Chief Pilot at The Vintage Aviator Ltd in Masterton, New Zealand, the world’s leading constructors of First World War aeroplanes. During the spring of 2014, the first of a series of television documentaries about the evolution of aviation during the First World War will be made in New Zealand by AHT. Subject to funding, during each year of the centenary one of the aircraft featured in each film will be brought to the UK from New Zealand to further tell the story at commemorative events, air shows, and flypasts. It is planned to eventually base the aircraft at the UK’s only unaltered First World War airfield at Stow Maries, near Maldon, Essex. The trust has been set up by former RAF helicopter pilot Dick Forsythe, who, on January 15, told Aeroplane: “We are currently registering with the Charity Commission, and once that is in place will be speaking to a broad spectrum of potential sponsors. The aircraft we expect to come over to the UK include a B.E.2c, Airco D.H.2, Royal Aircraft Factory F.E.2b and Farman F.20. We hope to have the first aircraft over in the UK during April/May of this year.” For more details, go to: ww1aviationheritagetrust.co.uk
Below a Peter Lewis photo of ZK-FEB was the caption: The Vintage Aviator (TVAL) F.E.2b reproduction, ZK-FEB, seen flying at Hood Aerodrome, Masterton, New Zealand, in November 2012. If plans outlined by the WW1 Aviation Heritage Trust come to fruition, a TVAL-built F.E.2b will be seen in the skies over the old Royal Flying Corps base at Stow Maries, Essex. ____
I didn't expect these aircraft to be permanently based at Stow Maries, but my question still stands, "which D.H.2, an existing replica or something new?"
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Post by aeromuzz on Mar 11, 2014 14:03:32 GMT 12
I didn't expect these aircraft to be permanently based at Stow Maries, but my question still stands, "which D.H.2, an existing replica or something new?" Unless some big money backers are prepared to pay the big cost of getting aircraft from NZ to the UK (and then back again), it will most likely come from a northern hemisphere collection. There is a flyable one in the UK.
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Post by Dave Homewood on Mar 12, 2014 13:01:25 GMT 12
Two new Be2c's have been added to the register today apparently - ZK-KOZ & ZK-TFZ
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Post by aeromuzz on Mar 13, 2014 8:23:24 GMT 12
Two new Be2c's have been added to the register today apparently - ZK-KOZ & ZK-TFZ They actually Be2f's. I assume one is for Oliver Wulff and the other is possibly the one that TVAL always intended to build for themselves. It could also be the one that goes to the UK if funding is found.
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Post by ErrolC on Mar 13, 2014 9:03:21 GMT 12
The CAA has them listed as The Vintage Aviator BE2e-1's.
This compares with BFR as Royal Aircraft BE2F, and TVA as The Vintage Aviator BE2c-1.
All of which appears logical and consistent, which isn't always true of how replicas are recorded (the Fokker triplane replicas have Fokker as their manufacturer, for instance).
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Post by delticman on Mar 13, 2014 9:12:12 GMT 12
Well they are registered as BE2e-1's with consecutive serial numbers. If the second one is to be painted as A2767, that is part of a batch of 250 BE2e's built by the British and Colonial Co Ltd of Filton. What will be really amazing is to have three BE2's on the same field. When did that last happen?
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Post by ErrolC on Mar 13, 2014 9:51:37 GMT 12
Who's got the wonky handwriting that got misread when entered into the public-facing database? It will be a great sight! Sent via Proboards Android App
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Post by Brett on Mar 31, 2014 17:39:42 GMT 12
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Post by komata on Mar 31, 2014 18:02:42 GMT 12
Not three, but FOUR!! Thank you so much, Quite made my afternoon. What is the historical background to the white aircraft? An early-production, pre-war machine perhaps?
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Post by ErrolC on Mar 31, 2014 18:28:35 GMT 12
From 'On the Wings of History'
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Post by ErrolC on Jun 12, 2014 7:19:58 GMT 12
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Post by delticman on Jun 13, 2014 13:45:18 GMT 12
Todays pictures show them inside the hangar with serials showing and rego information.
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Post by Radialicious on Jun 13, 2014 21:59:19 GMT 12
"If you've got a gap in your history - call New Zealand, we can fill it for you"
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