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Post by ErrolC on Mar 28, 2016 11:37:34 GMT 12
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Post by Deleted on Mar 28, 2016 14:03:18 GMT 12
I had my fingers crossed for a show blessed with good weather and safe aircraft, so it's disappointing to read of the Harvard mishap and the Tiger-DC-3 incident.
Great photos by Gavin and others, thank you so much for sharing them! Some new additions to my wallpaper and screensaver folders. Was there much mention of this show marking 20 years since the last Buchon flew at Wanaka?
And about Buchons - thanks for the links and info about the ZK-CIX process, I'd read it before but I'm more curious about why it wasn't done for other visiting WoW star aircraft.
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Post by thebrads on Mar 28, 2016 16:43:25 GMT 12
Was there much mention of this show marking 20 years since the last Buchon flew at Wanaka? I lost count of how many times the crowd were told "only the second time a Buchon/ME109 has flown at Wanaka" (or words to that effect), and also how this was a "once in a lifetime opportunity". Well history clearly records both of these broadcast statements as being incorrect. |
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Post by baz62 on Mar 28, 2016 16:46:34 GMT 12
Was there much mention of this show marking 20 years since the last Buchon flew at Wanaka? I lost count of how many times the crowd were told "only the second time a Buchon/ME109 has flown at Wanaka" Well correct insofar as it is the only the second time a Merlin Buchon has flown at Wanaka as the last time it was a DB engined 109G. |
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Post by thebrads on Mar 28, 2016 16:49:28 GMT 12
Re Harvards, yes there were two incidents on Monday morning. Earlier media reports appeared to provide some form of confusion between the two seperate incidents. I did not witness them, but what i can offer is that one scraped a wingtip during an attempted takeoff. I did later see NZ1092 with her starboard wingtip removed and being looked at.
NZ1057 was during landing, not takeoff as has been reported in some media.
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Post by thebrads on Mar 28, 2016 17:00:48 GMT 12
I lost count of how many times the crowd were told "only the second time a Buchon/ME109 has flown at Wanaka" Well correct insofar as it is the only the second time a Merlin Buchon has flown at Wanaka as the last time it was a DB engined 109G. Sorry, i didn't write that clearly, it was implied that it was only the second time that anything resembling a 109 had flown at Wanaka, irrespective of engine manufacturer. (And I am pretty certain that the 109G (1996) was a re-engined Buchon anyway, not technically a 109G.) |
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Post by kiwithrottlejockey on Mar 28, 2016 17:26:19 GMT 12
I attended the inaugural official meeting of Warbirds Over Wanaka Club members over the weekend (I am one of the foundation members). The meeting was called by Mandy Deans to discuss a few issues to do with Warbirds Over Wanaka, and in particular the upcoming 30th anniversary (in years) of the first airshow (Warbirds On Parade) held in 1988. There are some big things being planned for Warbirds Over Wanaka 2018, but I cannot give away too much at this point as I feel it is not my place to spill the beans, but rather it's up to Mandy Deans and others to make the official announcements nearer the time. However, I can say that Tim Wallis is very much involved in organising the next Warbirds Over Wanaka (and he claimed that both his brother George, and Gavin Johnson are also involved) and he not only has some BIG plans, but he also had the old twinkle in his eyes while he was giving a speech to club members telling us what his plans are, and it was almost like the twinkle in his eyes he used to have when he was organising the early airshows. He appears to have the backing of the current Warbirds Over Wanaka organisation, so it will be a case of “watch this space!”
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Post by Mustang51 on Mar 29, 2016 8:36:17 GMT 12
Bruce, Just back at work. Missed our steak at the SA. Suffice it to say that a badly rolled ankle just after we spoke (no Jack Daniels involved) put paid to my driving. Still #@*$ sore on Monday morning. It was my 10th Wanaka and it was great to meet up and talk with so many friends again. Looking forward to the show's 30th year and hopefully a bit more personal participation. Sad to see 57 laying in the grass. Ten minutes after I left the second Harvard incident and while I was waiting at Queenstown for my flight I am informed that Wanaka experienced a 4.3 earthquake...... So it was all happening ! Bruce, some very nice pics there of the Cat as you promised and Gavin....... another spectacular series of shots. Guessing we'll see the best when the article comes out? What Sir Tim has planned will make it a great 30th. I for one am booking my accommodation right now.
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Post by skyhawkdon on Mar 29, 2016 9:37:30 GMT 12
Here's hoping you are back on the commentary team for 2018 Peter. I cringed far too many times listening to the resident aviation expert's (read balding circus clown!) dribble. So many of his "facts" were wrong. Sadly it seems airshow commentary is more about entertainment these days, rather than facts and educating people. Same can be said of the RNZAF's commentator. She also has far too many facts wrong and seems to get all caught up in the excitement of the moment and says silly things. I particularly hate how she keeps referring to the RNZAF aircraft as "toys". She has done this for years. I'm surprised her superiors haven't had a word with her about it...
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Post by skyhawkdon on Mar 29, 2016 9:45:38 GMT 12
Overall it was a great show. The Silver Pass stand was sold out Sat and Sun so was pretty full at times (late comers gave up trying to find a seat - definitely worth claiming your seats early!). The weather was perfect, especially on Saturday when it was dead calm all day. The Vampires benefited from a little wind on the nose for their takeoffs on Sunday! One of the Blunty's had a fuel pump problem on Sunday so didn't fly in the jet formation. Not sure what happened to the 5th jet (the Wanaka based Viper powered L-29) that was supposed to also be in the formation? All of the formation displays were superbly flown. The RNZAF T-6 solo aeros were very good - this is one fast and slick aircraft! The Cat is looking superb in it's new paint.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2016 10:19:47 GMT 12
I'm glad to hear about the T-6C display/s, whenever I'm in Wanganui I hear them and I'm looking forward to seeing them in action.
Bruce, thanks for sharing about the WoW Club meeting. The 30th anniversary may just get me down there, especially if Tim's involved...I finally listened to the latest WONZ Live Show this weekend and Wal Denholm suggesting PZ474 might make Wanaka that year has me excited.
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Post by suthg on Mar 29, 2016 10:44:57 GMT 12
Yes - thanks all for the commentaries and photos so far! For me, it saeems 2018 will be my first Wanaka! Lots to look forward to.  |
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Post by kiwithrottlejockey on Mar 29, 2016 11:55:34 GMT 12
I'm currently at Queenstown Airport waiting to board my flight to Wellington in about 20 minutes, and the four RAAF Hawks have just taken off, presumably heading home.
And with regards to the 2018 Warbirds Over Wanaka, I cannot say anything because it is not my place, but what both Mandy and Tim told us about the upcoming plans for the 30th anniversary airshow literally blew our minds. I really hope they pull it off, because if they do it will be a fantastic airshow. And as we know from past experience, when Tim Wallis has a dream, he tends to make it happen. He really is back to his old boyish self, apart from a few short-circuits which slow him down a bit. I'm looking forward to it and have already booked the accommodation for Easter 2018.
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Post by tbf25o4 on Mar 29, 2016 15:20:08 GMT 12
It seems to me that the Harvard incident involving NZ1057 is one of the classic scenarios with this type.
"There are two types of Harvard pilot, those who have and those who are about to!" (This of course refers to the ground looping of the Harvard which could result
in scrapped wing tips or collapsed undercarriages) The media has so far provided a range of "informed" comment on what happened!
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Post by nuuumannn on Mar 29, 2016 15:27:38 GMT 12
Sad to hear of the incidents that happened at the show; I left the airfield moments before 1057 had its wheels up landing and saw the emergency services vehicles racing along Luggate Highway, not realising that they were on their way to the airfield. I was hoping to get a shot of the Catalina landing on the lake, as it was lining up as I left (I'd been talking to the lovely people at the Catalina stand beforehand) and I waited ...and waited and after 30 minutes there was still no Catalina, so left to drive back to Nelson. Found out why when I got back home.  Thoroughly enjoyed the show; the good: the Buchon and John Romain, the superb staff in the Gold Pass marquee, getting up close and personal with the Big Avenger and the Buchon during the Gold Pass flightline walk, the Catalina - went for a flight in it on Sunday night, the friendly folk manning (and womaning) the Catalina tent, nicely choreographed finale, the excellent Warbirds and Wheels museum, the French guys next to the Casa with a wee tent giving away merchandise to the public. The bad; the terrible commentary, agree with all of your comments about it - I particularly thought it in poor taste getting cheap laughs at the expense of the French guy talking about the Casa ("ze Caza"), the sort of thing you do over drinks at the bar afterwards, not over the airshow PA. Poor demonstration of knowledge of subject matter (De Havilland Goblin, not Rolls Royce Goblin, for example). It was far too familiar and jocular; many of the cracks were in-jokes between each of the commentators and the pilots and would have no doubt been lost to the public - Jim should stick to doing the weather. The airshow brochure, indifferently designed and poorly edited - messy use of different fonts and font sizes in the text, casual spelling mistakes and bad grammar, 'Air Force' is two words and the Buchon is a Bf 109, not an Me-109 (no hyphen). A few gaps in the flying while aircraft were holding in the air in between displays, inevitable, but when accompanied by silence (unusual) from the commentary box makes for dead air. Again, the commentators needed to sharpen up a bit. The C-17 display was a little lack-lustre, surely a lower pass might have been possible, even if a landing was not, and the USAF commentary was poorly read; he was reading from a script. The Armee de L'Air and RNZAF showed the USAF how it was done with the Casa and Herc displays. The French commentary for the Casa display was better than the RNZAF commentary also. A brief two-ship fly past by the T-6 Texan IIs, how long has the RNZAF had them for? I'm not so concerned about the NH-90 maintenance schedule because, yes, these things are planned for in advance, but the aircraft had to hold in the air for inordinately long periods of time before its display, thereby chewing up its useable hours - remember, the RNZAF only has a handful of them, so can't spare the airframes. Photographing into the sun from the flight line and the fact that I lost a lens cap. Also went to the Wanaka Toy and Transport Museum, very large collection of stuff, but I'm real disappointed with the conditions in which some of the aircraft are stored; the Percival Prentice, de Havilland Dove, Antonov An-2 and Lodestar for example. All the aircraft are covered in bird droppings and are in generally poor condition, although nice to see they've painted the Canberra - it used to look a real mess. |
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Post by nuuumannn on Mar 29, 2016 15:40:34 GMT 12
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Post by nuuumannn on Mar 29, 2016 15:43:42 GMT 12
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Post by Dave Homewood on Mar 29, 2016 15:57:35 GMT 12
Nice photos. More please.
Any shots of Bevan in the Chippie?
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Post by nuuumannn on Mar 29, 2016 17:36:34 GMT 12
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troops
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Post by troops on Mar 29, 2016 18:25:32 GMT 12
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bugger but good to hear everyone is safe looks like 1057?
