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Post by 30sqnatc on Jul 10, 2019 17:10:33 GMT 12
At Temora we had a tug demonstration team......."The Termora Tuggers" ! Actually did a demo at one of the flying days And theres me thinking I had invented a new display sport but beaten to it by the Aussies  |
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Post by 30sqnatc on Jul 12, 2019 20:35:38 GMT 12
Remember I'm trying to model this fuel tanker with unique marking for the Pacific theatre.  Darn what a time to run out of matt spray to the cover the gloss under the roundel but weathering started anyway.  [/url]  I rationalised the deck would be rusty as hell with all the tree trunks being dragged on and off.  |
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Post by Dave Homewood on Jul 12, 2019 23:33:34 GMT 12
Was the deck of those trucks made from steel?
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Post by 30sqnatc on Jul 12, 2019 23:42:31 GMT 12
Some were wood floor and sides, others were all steel. Depended who made it and trucks role e.g. dump truck variant was all steel deck.
My modified model represents all steel.
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Post by 30sqnatc on Jul 13, 2019 0:13:20 GMT 12
I always had an idea it would be great to add a crude wharf scene to the end of the current baseboards with an RNZN Fairmile along side as they served in the Solomons but at 113 feet long it would be just too big so I've settled on an 80 foot PT boat which just turned up.  I've already got the landing craft to replicate this scene. it took me some studying to realise that under and behind the row of radial engines are the destroyed remains of a 2ft gauge railway track laid to serve the wharf.  |
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Post by 30sqnatc on Jul 13, 2019 17:30:13 GMT 12
To protect the unfortunate, i'll call him Plt Offr Prune. He is the Officers Mess Entertainment Officer and he has decided the next mess function theme will be 'shipwrecked on a desert island'. So today he commandeered one of the sawmill trucks from the base Works Sqn and sent the mess sergeant out to collect baby coconut trees to dress up the mess.  Then the truck got back to real work.  |
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Post by baz62 on Jul 13, 2019 18:03:26 GMT 12
Wow this is going to look fantastic when its completed. :-)
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Post by agalbraith on Jul 13, 2019 18:37:56 GMT 12
Yep, agreed.....great project and nicely done!
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Post by 30sqnatc on Jul 18, 2019 22:08:12 GMT 12
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Post by 30sqnatc on Jul 20, 2019 12:40:48 GMT 12
Started on the rear body for the tender. Fitting the sides around the Blitz round mudguards ...oh my. I've also been playing with painting a back scene. Yeah I know 'stick to your day job'.  |
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Post by 30sqnatc on Jul 27, 2019 0:00:38 GMT 12
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Post by 30sqnatc on Jul 29, 2019 21:22:24 GMT 12
  Nothing back from RNZAF Museum or the Otaki Fire Brigade who apparently have a restored closed cab 1942 Ford tender so pressing ahead with the body based on the pictures I currently have. |
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Post by davidd on Jul 30, 2019 11:58:50 GMT 12
Historic photos are probably better in many ways as they are captured in the very time and place you are interested in. Often 75- 80 year old vehicles which survived till now have endured many modifications, for various reasons. A minor point often overlooked is that the RNZAF usually relied on "local arrangements" in the Pacific theatres to obtain MT - thus they were NOT supplied under normal Lease-Lend protocols, and when they got damaged or needed a general overhaul, they were normally "traded in" for an overhauled or repaired one from the local Marine Corps or Navy vehicle "pool". They still were painted in RNZAF markings and were allocated normal MT numbers, but very few, if any would have ended up back in NZ at end of war. United States (or Canadian-built) MT vehicles used by RNZAF in NZ were generally supplied by the NZ Army under a Govt-approved agreement for convenience, and were most likely to have been sourced through Lend-Lease arrangements. In the very early wartime period (1939 - 42), most vehicles for RNZAF would have been impressed civilian vehicles (probably taken over originally by Army, and allocated to RNZAF). Many vehicles sent overseas (shipped) to equip the early RNZAF units in Pacific (Fiji, Tonga, New Caledonia, Espiritu Santo, Guadalcanal) were also of civilian pattern, although later some military pattern types were shipped north too, as civilian type vehicles were usually not tough enough to stand up to the terrible conditions. So there can be a variety of explanations to describe the history of any individual vehicle in NZ or the Pacific theatre, and the same was generally true for RNZAF Marine craft. It all depended on the circumstances, and what was considered important at the time.
David D
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Post by 30sqnatc on Jul 30, 2019 19:11:57 GMT 12
David,
Very interested post. This my take on possible sources split:
Provided from NZ (all right hand drive except Ford M-H which appears to be LHD)
Tractor (farm tractor towing bomb trailers with Hudson)
Chev 4x2 civilian pattern truck
1942 Ford 4x2 CO2 crash tender with NZ made CoMoCo fire equipment
CMP 4x4 Chev C8 cwt truck (ex Canada with NZ built body)
CMP 4x4 (Chev or Ford) 30 cwt truck. There is one with red crosses and another with improvised wooden deck so possibly acquired after being written off (ex Canada)
CMP 4x4 (Chev or ford) 60 truck (ex Canada)
CMP 6x6 (Chev or ford) 60 workshop body (ex Canada although this may have been acquired from Australian forces)
Ford Marmon-Herrington 6x6 C02 crash tender (ex Canada)
Provided or acquired from US (officially and unofficially) so all LHD
Jeep 4x4
Clarktor tractor
Minneapolis-Moline Truck (which looks like a tractor)
Celtrac MG1 tracked high speed tractor
Dodge 4x4 WC56 command/Recon
Dodge 6x6 WC62 truck
Ford 4x4 GT Bomb Service
GMC 6x6 truck
IH 4x4 M3 600 gal refueller
IH M5 6x6 truck
IH 6x6 tractor unit
Tracked tractor & bulldozer for sawmill unit
4000 gal tanker
What have I forgotten?
This list does not include vehicles that are clearly still in US ownership just being used to support RNZAF units.
IH tractor with crane
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Post by Dave Homewood on Jul 30, 2019 20:49:23 GMT 12
The RNZAF used some captured Jap trucks and vehicles too, often with comical nicknames.
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Post by senob on Jul 30, 2019 23:38:31 GMT 12
I always had an idea it would be great to add a crude wharf scene to the end of the current baseboards with an RNZN Fairmile along side as they served in the Solomons but at 113 feet long it would be just too big so I've settled on an 80 foot PT boat which just turned up. I've already got the landing craft to replicate this scene. it took me some studying to realise that under and behind the row of radial engines are the destroyed remains of a 2ft gauge railway track laid to serve the wharf. If you had a Fairmile would you have enough room to run it up on the beach as though it had been beached to repair some battle damage to the lower hull? Stoved in bow? |
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Post by 30sqnatc on Jul 31, 2019 2:13:47 GMT 12
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Post by davidd on Jul 31, 2019 8:55:21 GMT 12
30sqnatc,
Presume your Celtrac is meant to read as Cletrac? Incidentally National Archives (Archives NZ) in Wellington has a No.1 (Islands) Group file on allocation of MT in the forward area, which I must get to one day. If you are in lower North Island area you might like to look it up for yourself. I also have notes on the allocation of RNZAF Marine Craft in the forward area too, which shows what a complicated and muddled organisation it was. I think they had just one dedicated Marine Craft Officer (administration) to cover the whole area where the RNZAF operated, from 1943 onwards (South Pacific/South West Pacific) and the file is not particularly concerned with the allocation of marine craft as such, although transfers are sometimes mentioned. However this was still quite useful stuff to know about. I am hoping the as yet unseen) MT file is something similar.
David D
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Post by 30sqnatc on Jul 31, 2019 17:46:43 GMT 12
David,
Thanks for lead on the MT file. I'm in Wellington so will try and get a day off an so searching however I've spend enough time in the Archives to realise often files don't aways meet ones hopes and expectations.
Paul
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Post by Dave Homewood on Jul 31, 2019 18:01:18 GMT 12
If you are creating a beach you should add some of the little yachts and droptank canoes that the RNZAF coastal island stations all had for recreation.
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