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Post by TS on Sept 11, 2013 21:44:32 GMT 12
ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ .....sorry
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Post by beagle on Sept 22, 2013 19:55:21 GMT 12
yay, finally the boat with my new car has arrived in Lyttleton. now wish the webcam there was a bit better.
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Post by beagle on Oct 3, 2013 19:25:27 GMT 12
So after waiting since August, finally I could take a drive of my new car today. Well I haven't bought it yet, talking turkey with the sales man as there are a few defects I want sorted out first or some nice folding paper taken off original price. Pretty easy guess where we went on our 4 hour test drive. Cheeky me even did a bread delivery.
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Post by suthg on Oct 3, 2013 19:38:13 GMT 12
Looks very sweet! Needs a paint job though for Tip-Top... I assume the second row of seats lay totally flat to give you the rear space you need.
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Post by beagle on Oct 4, 2013 16:38:12 GMT 12
yeah, just, Peobably about 1/2" out with seat in normal position. They don't move back or forward just fold and fold to lie flat, but I can get 2 stacks in with them folded down. Will try again after actually purchasing as I doidn't want to scratch anything etc.
"looks very sweet" Well thats the best comment so far. it has ranged from Gay car Mig 15 car tonka toy where's the rest of it who chopped the back off it nana car over 50's car
At present, it's just what i need as is pretty zippy and will be fine on the open road with 7 speed paddle shifter CVT Going to take it to dunedin in a few weeks and will be trying to get 50mpg
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Post by fastaviationdata on Oct 11, 2013 20:46:31 GMT 12
Me, I'm planning to buy a Nissan Navara. I love the design especially the front.
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Post by kiwithrottlejockey on Oct 13, 2013 18:49:29 GMT 12
From the Los Angeles Times....Self-driving cars inch closer to mainstream availabilityAutomakers including Nissan, GM and Mercedes have done thousands of miles of successful tests, hoping to sell self-driving vehicles by 2020. But who would be liable in a crash?By JERRY HIRSCH | 8:45PM - Saturday, October 12, 2013The Nissan Leaf Autonomous vehicle at the Nissan 360 press event on September 10th, 2013 in Irvine, California. The driverless technology will be available in the year 2020. — Gina Ferazzi/Los Angeles Times.THE NISSAN LEAF is cruising at 35 mph when a pedestrian jumps into the roadway.
But there's no one at the controls. Instead, radar, lasers and cameras recognize the pedestrian — actually a dummy shoved into the road by an engineer. Computers order the car to slam the brakes and swerve, avoiding a collision.
The recent demonstration, at a former military base in Irvine, underscored just how far automakers have come in developing cars that drive themselves. Car companies including Nissan, General Motors and Mercedes have logged thousands of miles of successful tests, with an eye toward selling autonomous vehicles by 2020.
Nissan's test provided a vivid display of what's already possible: The Leaf dropped an occupant at the "store", then proceeded to drive itself down a parking row, stop for an SUV driven by a human, and back into a space.
But the technology is just one of many challenges. Convincing consumers, regulators, insurers and lawyers that autonomous vehicles are safe — and determining who pays when they crash — could wrap their future in a Gordian knot.
"It is uncharted waters," said James Yukevich, a Los Angeles attorney who defends the auto industry from product liability lawsuits. "I don't think this is an area very many people have thought much about."
Coddled by robotic chauffeurs, would people retain the driving skills to take over in emergencies? Who would be liable if an autopiloted car runs through a crowd of pedestrians: the owner or the automaker? Would insurance premiums go up or down? Would cyberterrorists figure out how to make Fords blast through school zones at 100 mph?
Are human drivers really ready to give up control?
Such thorny questions cast doubt on automakers' ambitious timelines, said Bryan Reimer, a scientist and transportation expert at MIT.
"Humans can deal relatively well with humans making mistakes, but we don't deal as well with robots making mistakes," Reimer said. "How many of us are willing to get on an airplane with no pilot — even though half the time the pilots are just sitting around watching the automation?"
It may seem inevitable that machines will one day pilot cars more safely than humans. But that will have to be proved beyond doubt before legislators and regulators give them free rein. The engineering will have to be fail-safe, said David Strickland, administrator of the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration.
For now, just three states — California, Florida and Nevada — allow self-driving cars on the road, and only for testing. Six states have rejected testing, and seven others are considering regulations, according to the Center for Internet and Society at Stanford University.
California has directed its Department of Motor Vehicles to craft regulations by the start of 2015, said Bernard Soriano, deputy director for the agency. The state is working with the NHTSA, the highway patrol and the state's departments of insurance and transportation to figure out the regulations.
Automakers are moving in stages toward fully autonomous cars. They started more than a decade ago with features such as electronic stability control, which assists with braking to help drivers control the car.
Some 2014 Mercedes-Benz and Acura models combine adaptive cruise control, which keeps a vehicle at a safe distance from cars ahead, with lane keeping, which automatically adjusts steering. Another system slams the brakes before an impending crash.
The next level of development: cars that assume full control under favorable traffic or weather conditions. These are the self-drivers Nissan expects to sell by 2020, said Maarten Sierhuis, director of the automaker's Silicon Valley research center. The NHTSA is working on a four-year timetable to issue regulations for such cars.
All this leads to the final frontier: vehicles that can operate completely on autopilot — even without passengers, as in automated taxis or delivery vans.
The challenge for automakers will be programming cars to navigate complicated and unexpected conditions, Sierhuis said.
"It is always the outliers — the very complex traffic situations that are hard to imagine and hard to test — that are difficult," he said.
Sierhuis plans to test the autonomous Leaf at a section of road near his Sunnyvale, California, office that he calls "the monster". Human drivers cause an accident a week there, a high-volume road with a highway crossing and three intersections in quick succession.
As it formulates rules, California's DMV is looking for guidance from regulations governing robotic surgery and the potential use of commercial aerial drones, which are seeing limited use for photography in Canada.
Beyond regulatory hurdles, car companies could be taking on a huge liability in selling robotic cars.
"If the driver has no control of the vehicle at all, how is it possible for that person to be negligent?" Yukevich said. "You can sit there and read the newspaper. If there is an accident, you can't be at fault."
Liability questions surrounding automated cars may be simpler than they appear, said Ryan Calo, a professor who teaches robotics law at the University of Washington. If automakers build every system in the car, then presumably the automaker will be on the hook in lawsuits over accidents or injuries — just as human drivers are now.
Moreover, by their nature, the cars would come with an array of sensors that feed into a black-box data recorder, making it easier to unravel whether man or machine is to blame in crashes. Nonetheless, lawyers and judges will no doubt shape the law surrounding self-driving cars — after they hit the road.
"The legal issues don't need to be 100% worked out from Day One," Calo said. "I do think there will be enough structure in place so that this won't be the Wild West."
Less complicated is the issue of insurance. Already, automated driving technology on today's cars is reducing property and injury claims. That could mean lower premiums as automation advances, insurance officials say.
Although cars could be the first mass-marketed robots, the insurance industry has covered automated machines in many sectors.
"A modern airliner is in effect an autonomous vehicle," said Robert Hartwig, president of the Insurance Information Institute.
Consumers remain skeptical. Only 18% said they would buy autonomous vehicles, and 33% said they would feel safe on roads filled with them, according to a survey of 1,000 adults conducted in September for the Chubb Group of Insurance Companies.
In time, Sierhuis believes, people will take to autonomous cars just as eagerly as they have other technologies.
"People were surprised when we landed on Mars," he said. "But now we have robots walking around on the surface, and no one thinks twice about it."
As with many technologies we now take for granted, autopiloted cars have a long history in science fiction. "Sally," an Isaac Asimov short story first published in 1953, portrays a futuristic world where people no longer drive themselves.
"I can remember when there wasn't an automobile in the world with brains enough to find its own way home," says the main character, Jacob Folkers, who runs a retirement home for intelligent vehicles. "I chauffeured dead lumps of machines that needed a man's hand at their controls every minute. Every year, machines like that used to kill tens of thousands of people."www.latimes.com/business/autos/la-fi-adv-hy-self-driving-cars-20131013,0,6040850,full.story
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Post by beagle on Oct 13, 2013 19:08:58 GMT 12
Where's the fun not driving.
Only good thing there would be driving home after being at the pub all night. "HOME JAMES "
As for my new vehicle, I have had it a week now and 6 of those days were driving to work and saved $50 so pretty happy there. don't know what these car yards call a fulll groom but i have spent 3 nights going around the whole paintwork with a fine buffing compound to get it nice and clean and smooth then some good quality polish. From a painting background, have always known ya get a better glossy shine from a base colour rather than metallic but I am very impressed with what i have achieved. Oh there are some small scratches here and there but it is 7 years old afterall. Just a few faults I have found. l/h wing mirror won't adjust from control buttons. pulled covers off and connection is ok but can see a cut in the outer casing off the wiring lom in one place so i presume a wire has been nicked at one stage. Probably when they pulled everything apart on certification the other week. Once set ya never adjust it anyway so not too worried about it. The other niggle I have just found is a humming noise from the back left in the wheel area. engineer at work said it could be the brand of pad telling me that they are starting to wear down and need replacement but I said ther eis usually a piece of metal that squeals when that happens, but he reckons thats it so will get it checked out and if needing new pads dealer will pay.
Apart from that quite happy.
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Post by Bruce on Oct 13, 2013 21:08:48 GMT 12
other niggle I have just found is a humming noise from the back left in the wheel area. Have you tried teaching it some Lyrics?
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Post by beagle on Oct 14, 2013 15:16:29 GMT 12
took it to my pet mechanic today and could hear the hum,so he listened and listenedthen jumped into the back, then got me to flip the fuel cap and could hear it even more. so it was an electrical hum I could hear and he said something wrong with fuel pump.
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Post by beagle on Oct 17, 2013 14:22:12 GMT 12
New fuel pump from toyota
$1756.95
no wonder dealer has found a cheaper second hand one to fit. Think I'll be asking how many km's the car had done from where it come from though.
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Post by kiwithrottlejockey on Dec 8, 2013 14:19:04 GMT 12
From the Los Angeles Times....Ford unveils sixth-generation Mustang for 50th anniversaryBy JERRY HIRSCH | 9:00PM PST - Wednesday, December 04, 2013The sixth-generation of the car had to have what Ford designer Joel Piaskowski called the three hallmarks of a Mustang: the shark nose, the tri-bar tail lamps and the fast-back roof profile.FORD MOTOR COMPANY unveiled the sixth generation of its Mustang on Wednesday night, nearly 50 years after the original debuted at the New York World’s Fair.
The automaker released photos of the 2015 Mustang and planned to show it off in a global reveal at events in Los Angeles; New York; Dearborn, Michigan; Barcelona, Spain; Shanghai; and Sydney, Australia, on Thursday. The new version of the iconic American sports coupe will go on sale late next year.
“Every car company has a vehicle that strikes to the heart and soul of the company, and for us that is the Mustang,” said Mark Fields, Ford’s chief operating officer.• PHOTOGRAPH GALLERY: Ford debuts 2015 Mustang]The new model hews closely to the styling that enabled Ford to sell 9 million Mustangs and made the car a star of countless movies, television shows and even postage stamps. Ford plans to take advantage of its international fame — there’s a Mustang club even in remote Iceland — to launch sales in Europe and Asia.
Anyone seeing the car will instantly recognize it as a Mustang, with its long sculpted hood and short rear deck. The styling is most evocative of the 1969 model.
“When you see it, you know it has the bloodlines of a Mustang but is designed for the 21st century,” Fields said.
The shark nose grill leans forward to give an impression of movement and aggression. The trademark tri-bar tail lamps now come in a three-dimensional configuration that lends depth to the rear. The sloping fast-back roof profile shouts Mustang more than anything else.
Ford’s challenge: to honor a half-century of history while injecting the car with modern engines, technology and styling cues.
It will offer three engine choices. The base model will have a 3.7-litre V6 with at least 300 horsepower and 270 pound-feet of torque. Ford also plans a turbo-charged four cylinder that will have about the same horsepower but more torque and better fuel economy.
The performance Mustang will come with a 5.0-litre V8 that will produce more than the 420 horsepower and 390 pound-feet of torque that’s in the current GT model.
Ford has worked to increase the size of the cabin to allow for more shoulder and hip room for passengers, and a trunk that will be able to store two golf bags.
The car will be built at Ford’s Flat Rock Assembly Plant near Detroit.
Initial critiques were mixed.
“I love how they have brought the fastback back,” said Edward Loh, editor in chief of Motor Trend magazine. “It is lean-looking, longer, lower and wider.”
But Dave Sullivan, manager of product analysis for the AutoPacific Inc. consulting firm said he was underwhelmed.
“This new one kind of looks like a Ford Fusion coupe,” Sullivan said.• PHOTOGRAPH GALLERY: Mustangs through the yearsFord hopes the car can help it regain some of Mustang’s past luster. Sales have fallen from the hundreds of thousands annually during the 1960s to below a projected 80,000 this year. It also trails pony-car rival Chevrolet Camaro in sales.
“The pony car market isn’t what it used to be, but you can bet Ford would still like to assert bragging rights in a segment that it invented and has owned for the better part of 50 years,” said Jack Nerad, analyst at auto price information company Kelley Blue Book.
Other automakers are also watching to see how Ford executes the roll out.
“Ford management team understands that Mustang is a treasure, a true icon. It’s a piece of Americana that has global appeal,” said John Krafcik, a former Ford executive who now heads Hyundai Motor America.www.latimes.com/business/autos/la-fi-hy-ford-mustang-debut-20131204,0,2626130.story
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Post by kiwithrottlejockey on Dec 8, 2013 14:19:20 GMT 12
From the Los Angeles Times....The new Ford Mustang: Five experts weigh inBy DAVID UNDERCOFFLER | 1:38PM PST - Friday, Decemberf 05, 2013The 2015 Ford Mustang is revealed at the TCL Chinese Theatre in Hollywood on Thursday. Ford is celebrating the 50th anniversary of the car.HOW DO YOU go about reimagining one of the most iconic cars in history? Carefully.
With Ford looking to pull its sixth-generation Mustang into the 21st century in a way its predecessor couldn’t, the automaker knew it had to tread lightly. At the same time Ford needed to make the car’s “Mustangness” appeal to a younger and more global audience.
“We set out to create a modern interpretation of the Mustang,” said Joel Piaskowski, design director for Ford. “First and foremost, it had to be a Mustang. From the overall proportions, you might say yeah, it’s keeping up with the times, it has much more of a sports car-like proportion.”
With over half of the 5.5 million Facebook fans of the Mustang coming from outside the U.S., Piaskowski said Ford was eager to use this next generation as an ambassador.
“They appreciate the car for its Americanness, for being a true American muscle car, sports car," he said. "That’s what we’re building on.”
The redesigned body has a fastback design that harkens to the car’s early days. It’s lower and wider than the older car and the skin stretches over the engine options: a V8, a V6 and a new turbocharged four-cylinder. An updated chassis that now includes an independent rear suspension.
With plenty at stake for the new design, we sought out industry and classic car experts to weigh in on the new design. But first ...Our take:How you feel about this new Mustang depends on how much muscle you like in your car. Unlike Chevy’s take-it-or-leave-it attitude toward the reimagined Corvette that debuted earlier this year, the Ford Mustang seems aimed to please everyone. And while it could well pull this off, the unbridled American brawn of the muscle car seems lacking.
In person, the Mustang looks like an exaggerated version of the outgoing model, almost a caricature. This is a good thing. The 2015 version is wider, lower and more three-dimensional than before. Ford traded a modicum of aggression for 21st century refinement and class. But they could have done more. Muscle cars are supposed to have muscle.
What’s nice about this iteration is that Ford wasn’t afraid to deviate from the Mustang’s heritage in an effort to modernize the car. Yes, the company is making plenty of noise about the fastback design. But the fastback look has recently been co-opted by German luxury brands for use on four-door coupes like the Audi A7 and Mercedes CLS.
Other more mainstream family cars followed suit. If Ford’s Fusion — a common sedan aimed at people who don’t want muscle anywhere near their cars — can have a fastback design, shouldn’t the model that brought it to Ford 50 years ago also use it?
If the Mustang disappoints anywhere, it’s in the interior design. It still relies heavily on a retro-themed layout (and steering wheel) that can’t justify its existence ergonomically. It harkens back to certain era that old-school aficionados will appreciate. But car cabins have evolved for a reason. This one should have too.Parnelli Jones, former IndyCar, NASCAR racer and team owner:It’s beautiful, and I'm really impressed with the looks of it. I was really happy they didn’t get away from the traditional Mustang look. I was really impressed they didn't go in a complete different design direction. It looks pretty sleek aerodynamically. Though they could probably use a little more spoiler on the back — like the Mustang Boss 302 Laguna Seca version — for high-performance driving, since it’s certainly a high-performance car.
The independent rear suspension (IRS) certainly is an upgrade. We did about as good as you could do with a solid rear axle. You can do a lot more handling changes with IRS. It’s also a great combination together with the six-speed manual transmission.
I was really shocked to see they were coming out with a four-cylinder turbo. It’s great, I’m really big on turbocharging. I have a Ford Flex with a turbocharged V-6. This should definitely help pull in the younger generation.
As for the car as whole, if I’m a teenager, I think it’s great. If I’m an old guy like me, I think it’s great. I think young people will go for it. The look of the car makes you want race it; it makes you want to get in and drive.Craig Jackson, chairman and CEO of Barrett-Jackson auction companyWhen I first saw it, I felt the way I did when I first saw the 2005 version. You still see it’s a Mustang, but it’s been updated. This car needs to keep evolving, and Ford did a wonderful job with the way it’s evolved.
It’s still got some of that retro look to it, but it’s definitely a modern-looking car, definitely a Mustang when you look at it. This should help the demographic for the car go younger, like our customers have been. Kids like the retro and the modern technology together, and I think this car covers that.
The fastback design, that’s part of it. It’s not as big a change as when the ‘05 came out, where it really looked like a 1965. But this is still a modern car with the basic lines and proportions. It’s got an aggressive front on it; I love the headlights. And you can see the wind tunnel design to it; it's got some aerodynamics to it in the rear.
People who love Mustangs will love this. The Mustang has always been well loved by men and women; it’s not just a guys’ car. And multiple generations have grown up loving Mustangs.
This car is evolving, just like the [Corvette] C7 did. You still know it’s a Corvette, it’s got all the right dimensions. If that car went by you on the autobahn you’d wonder what it was; it doesn’t scream that it’s an American car. It’s the same when you see this Mustang. You know it’s a Mustang, but everything has to evolve, and I think it’s evolved in a very sophisticated way.
GM raised the stakes with the [Camaro] ZL1. Now with this Mustang’s IRS technology, and all-new body style. And I can’t wait to see the Shelby version.
It’s game on again.Dave Sullivan, senior analyst at AutoPacific]It’s predictable. It’s like they grafted on a Fusion front end to the current Mustang.
There’s nothing Earth-shattering, or that’s going to turn the pony-car world upside down. If you’re looking for an all-new Mustang, this is not an all-new Mustang. Unlike the new Corvette C7 that was all new from the ground up, this is pretty much the exact same car with a new rear suspension, a new front end and a new interior. This is a way of extending the lease on life for this vehicle without spending massive amounts of cash.
The Mustang has always been a car that doesn’t look like any other Ford for about as long as I can remember. This now at least looks like other Fords on the road; it kind of looks like a Ford Fusion coupe. Look at the Chevy Camaro; that doesn’t look like a Chevy Malibu coupe.
Whether that’s a successful move remains to be seen. They’ve been losing the sales battle to the Camaro for a while now, so maybe this is what they need. Coupes are a hard sell no matter what since it’s a limited market; they’ve kind of disappeared from the marketplace.
Mustang has kind of been in its own little world, almost as a unique brand of iconic American goodness. Now it’s going to this softer and less edgy and less retro design that looks good on a sedan, but it remains to be seen how this pans out for the consumer.Stewart Reed, chair, transportation design department, Art Center College of DesignI’ll confess, all the Ford design guys are friends of mine. But I’ve been anxious to see it; what I see here, it’s clearly a little more international from what Mustangs have been. That’s a very conscious decision on [Ford’s] part to sell this car around world, and yet it maintains the Mustang-ness and American-ness, which I think is wanted around the world.
The rear end of the car is unmistakably Mustang and yet new. The front end, the front face, is also undeniably Mustang. It’s definitely enough of a change. [Ford] navigated this course of incremental advances, and I think they’ve done it — even what you don’t see, the chassis and suspension — with underlying authenticity.
In a way it’s like the Mustang grows up, and I think it’s going to have a broader appeal to different socioeconomic groups too. People looking at European two-door sporty coupes are really going to be looking at this car too.
I’m hoping it won’t be bashful about being American, without an apology about being a muscle car. Mustang and Camaro are back, and I love those choices in the marketplace.Donnie Gould, president of Auctions America, RM car specialist for Ford and MustangI liked it instantly. A lot of times when new models come out I have to scratch my head and warm up to it, absorb it. I don’t have to do that with this car.
It looks like a completely new design. The roof seems chopped down, it doesn’t have too much retro in it like the last versions did; it looks like a completely new car to me.
As for the new turbo, this is not the first four-cylinder turbo in a Mustang. The SVO Mustangs built back in mid 1980s were very popular cars, and are collector items today. A lot of guys really liked those cars. I think with all these young kids today involved in the tuner world, a four-cylinder with big turbos on it will appeal to them and will also appeal to the European market as well.
The original 1966 Shelby Mustang I owned, I did a lot of autocrossing in. It was some of the most fun I’ve ever had without getting in trouble with the police. Taking the car out and throwing it around and trying to beat the clock in a short course like that, that was a lot of fun, let me tell you.
And the car withstood it. It was tough enough that you could really thrash them. They can really survive the toughest test. There are very few American muscle cars that you could have done that with.www.latimes.com/business/autos/la-fi-hy-ford-mustang-critique-20131205,0,902659,full.story
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Post by kiwithrottlejockey on Dec 8, 2013 14:19:35 GMT 12
Click on the photograph to open the 2015 Mustang page on the Ford.com website.... Click on each individual photograph to open a larger-sized version....
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Post by baronbeeza on Dec 8, 2013 15:41:16 GMT 12
Nice aviation theme, shame it is parked on the wrong side of the holding point. tsk tsk..
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Post by kiwithrottlejockey on Dec 8, 2013 16:17:47 GMT 12
I'd go for the convertible with a 5-litre V8, and to hell with fuel prices. No point owning a Mustang and putting a smaller donkey in it. Besides, I wouldn't be using it for an everyday car, more a plaything on days when I'm not working. If I win LOTTO....
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Post by beagle on Dec 8, 2013 19:26:50 GMT 12
won't get too many crates of top quality bread in there have managed to get 21 crates in my wee machine so far
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Post by suthg on Dec 8, 2013 20:31:44 GMT 12
Well done Beags! A good option in the end - suits the purpose and economy
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Post by kiwithrottlejockey on Dec 9, 2013 10:44:05 GMT 12
From the Los Angeles Times....2015 Ford Mustang goes toplessBy DAVID UNDERCOFFLER | 5:00AM PST - Saturday, December 07, 2013Ford's 2015 Mustang convertible breaks cover in Sydney, Australia, as part of the car's six-city, four-continent debut on Thursday, December 5th. — Photo: Daniel Boud/Ford.LOST AMONG the noise during Ford’s global debut of the 2015 Mustang on Thursday was the fact that sun-hungry fans have a convertible version to look forward to.
Available shortly after the coupe hits dealers in fall 2014, the sixth-generation Mustang convertible will be available with all three engines in the new lineup.
This means the range-topping GT convertible will have the 5.0-litre V8 that makes “more than 420 horsepower,” according to Ford.
The middle child of the engine spectrum will be the all-new 305-horsepower 2.3-litre turbocharged four-cylinder, a play to lure in both younger buyers and those concerned about fuel economy.
Finally, the base V6 — long a darling of rental fleets in warm climes like Los Angeles — will round out the options.
A six-speed manual gearbox will be standard on all three, and the six-speed automatic with paddle shifters will be optional.
The power-operated cloth top will lower twice as fast as on the outgoing model, Ford said.
One unfortunate byproduct of chopping off the Mustang’s roof is the loss of the fastback design. Without the sloping roofline of the rear glass that is arguably one of the new model’s most eye-catching elements, the back of the convertible looks a bit incomplete when the insulated roof is stowed under its cover.
Ford hasn’t announced pricing for either the coupe or the convertible, but don’t expect either to change dramatically from the current model. Right now, a 2014 base V6 Mustang convertible starts at just under $28,000.www.latimes.com/business/autos/la-fi-hy-autos-2015-ford-mustang-goes-topless-20131206,0,7267291.story
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Post by beagle on Dec 9, 2013 15:25:37 GMT 12
they had to make one for the ladies....
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