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Post by beagle on May 13, 2011 22:13:03 GMT 12
100 minutes apparantely
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Post by angels15 on May 14, 2011 8:09:15 GMT 12
I have 2 batteries for my D90, but at Omaka - and I took a lot of photos, one was sufficient for each day.
How about going for a free uv filter instead??
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Post by fwx on May 14, 2011 9:00:46 GMT 12
.. or an extra memory card - on a big day, you will probably run out of card well before running out of battery??
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Post by 11SQNLDR on May 14, 2011 10:22:13 GMT 12
just found a d3100 with both 18-55 and 50-200 lens's for $1200 new Not sure where you are looking mate but around 6 months back I did a lot of digging both here and accross the web / Ebay... Found the best deal right here in our backyard, Pauls Camera shop in Riccarton Road. Start with their website it's worth a gander & at the time I bought my D90 no one else came close  Oh & I picked up a mint Nikon 70-300 VRII for a bargain price on Trade Me for the airshow shots ;D |
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Post by beagle on May 14, 2011 20:48:20 GMT 12
I have 2 batteries for my D90, but at Omaka - and I took a lot of photos, one was sufficient for each day. How about going for a free uv filter instead?? yeah well, this guy "jesus" said about getting a filter for the front of the lens as he said it would be cheaper to replace that if it got a scratch on it rather than a scratch on the proper lens. Being a uv filter, which I take as to filter out any unwanted uv, would that effect the images taken in anyway or do you adjust with other settings. |
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Post by beagle on May 14, 2011 20:54:16 GMT 12
.. or an extra memory card - on a big day, you will probably run out of card well before running out of battery?? already have some cards from my other camera, plus it comes with one. 4gb |
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Post by angels15 on May 14, 2011 22:24:22 GMT 12
I use the filter as a lens protector- saved my bacon once when camera dropped in bag (by wife ;D) lens fine , filter toast. With regarding what it filters- hugely varied schools of thought on the net- I leave mine on 24/7, and change nothing.  |
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2011 8:47:43 GMT 12
beagle .. the UV filter won't affect your inages, I have one on both of my lenses and leave it on all the time... you can get a clear lens protector which is just like a filter but clear glass.
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Post by beagle on May 15, 2011 19:38:59 GMT 12
bugger, had to do over time yesterday and today so missed out on going to store to buy.
oh well...........
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Post by beagle on May 15, 2011 19:41:23 GMT 12
just found a d3100 with both 18-55 and 50-200 lens's for $1200 new Found the best deal right here in our backyard, Pauls Camera shop in Riccarton Road. Start with their website it's worth a gander & at the time I bought my D90 no one else came close yeah, just looked at his site, might pop into his shop before I go into the mall.. see what sort of deal he can do. the ceal I a, looking at comes with a Nikon bag, but have seen the mini back pack style ones. Any one have preferences / |
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Post by angels15 on May 15, 2011 20:26:37 GMT 12
Backpack (in a high pitched Dora voice!)
For a number of reasons- can get some that dont scream camera bag.
- if you do upgrade to a big lens - will need all the space for that
- for a day at the airshow/runway fence then can fit food, jacket etc
- if you need alternative accommodation from buying bigger lens from point two, you'll be able to take more with you! ;D
Re Dora- age test!!
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Post by Peter Lewis on May 15, 2011 22:18:50 GMT 12
I use a Tamrac backpack, made for photographic gear, holds lenses, cards, spare batteries etc but does not look it.
If I park it somewhere, there is little risk of it being nicked as it could be full of old socks.
The only drawback is that, unlike the aluminium case I used to use, you cannot stand on it to get a clear view over a fence.
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Post by beagle on May 16, 2011 16:07:45 GMT 12
ok, ok ok....
Just been into Pauls Camera shop in Riccarton. mmmmmmmmmm
He was able to offer me a better price on the twin lens D1300, but it would be a cash price instead of 30 months interest free as per Noel Leeming, but he did offer me something different so i would like some advice here please.
Now no laughing, but he has recommended a Fuji Fine Pix HS20
He said it would eat the D1300 in fps and zoom
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Post by Kereru on May 16, 2011 18:21:14 GMT 12
ok, ok ok.... Just been into Pauls Camera shop in Riccarton. mmmmmmmmmm He was able to offer me a better price on the twin lens D1300, but it would be a cash price instead of 30 months interest free as per Noel Leeming, but he did offer me something different so i would like some advice here please. Now no laughing, but he has recommended a Fuji Fine Pix HS20 He said it would eat the D1300 in fps and zoom Not that familiar with point and shoots now but the sensors in them are very small and whilst they produce some great prints they are a bit limited. Had a short search on the internet for the HS20 and could not find any info on shutter lag which for me is why I changed to a DSLR. I am sure they have improved as they used to start work when you pressed the shutter button like calculate distance, exposure etc and they were quite slow. DSLR's on the other hand are in milliseconds and hence they are more expensive. Some web site I contribute to will not accept any images from point and shoots no matter what the brand. This probable doesn't affect you and as long as your happy with 6x4 prints then it maybe more suitable for your needs however try and find out the shutter lag as that maybe annoying than using the D3100. I am sure others will have some advice so weigh up what your needs are and work from there. Cheers |
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Post by Deleted on May 16, 2011 18:25:17 GMT 12
Beagle ... given your interest in aviation photograpy you will find your options limited with a point and shoot, while it is entirely your decision I would seriously advise you to go with a dslr such as the D3100
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Post by angels15 on May 16, 2011 19:31:35 GMT 12
Beags, The read up is quite sharp www.dpreview.com/news/1101/11010513fujifilmhs20exr.aspbut like others I am concerned for the lag, both in starting and then between frames etc. I had an earlier Fuji in the early 2000's which was a point and shoot, and the delay between starting and ready to take a photo was long and frustrating to say the least. Whilst in africa, if taking a photo of an elephant calf, by the time the camera got itself squared away then in the photo there was an old tusker!! ;D The view finder was terrible and pixelated so ended up using the rear screen- isnt that how you are meant to take a real photo- with your arms outstretched?  , so with the view finder going the whole time then this also chews up battery power. Mine was electric zoom, so again time, tick tick, tick. The new ones may be able to manually zoom. The next thing is once you do possibly win lotto then the dslr will be future proof in the fact that you could bolt on a 80-400mm lens for eg onto the front. My vote would be with the dslr. |
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Post by 11SQNLDR on May 16, 2011 20:15:09 GMT 12
For my 5C worth i'd say go with the DSLR too mate |
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Post by mileater on May 16, 2011 20:59:08 GMT 12
Those Fuji HS series cameras have a "manual" focus system that will allow you to pre-focus and forget while you blast away. Startup time is an issue but they aren't bad these days. The biggest problem I can see with these is the sensor size... 1/2.3" and 14 MP makes for a real crownd on a very small section of silicon. I know that things have improved over the years but there ain't no substitute for area when it comes to photo sensors and this is where the DSLRs score big-time over the "bridge cameras" such as the HS10 and HS20.
Personally, I like the bridge cameras and own (currently) three of them, all Fuji (S3000, S1500 and S6500fd). The latter has a much bigger sensor than the other two but is (only) a 6 MP unit. The picture quality is, however, far better than either of the the other two. Lens, like the HS10/20 has manual zoom (twist the barrell of the lens) and has a manual option. It is very quick to start (about a second, I would guess) and is ready to go. Certainly fast enough to grab one of those "Oh... look at that" snaps. If the camera is left in auto-focus mode, it does slow the startup a bit as the lens goes through a self-check before letting you take a picture.
The HS20 is half the price of the D3100, but zoom is 24 - 720mm equivalent and a little on the slow side optically but to get better in an SLR you will pay your pension fund and some, I suspect. A bit of loss of image quality is to be expected but sample pics I have seen show that they are really quite good - certainly good enough to get a decent 12x10 print if you want one and certainly better than any computer monitor resolution that I have come across.
I would ask them to let you take a few sample pics to take home and inspect at your leisure - give it a chance, anyway.
Cheers,
Allan
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Post by kb on May 16, 2011 21:00:54 GMT 12
I would definitely go with the DSLR. As mentioned previously there can be a real lag between pressing the button and taking the photo. For instance when I was taking a photo of my granddaughter on a swing, to get a photo when she was at the front of the arc I had to press the shutter button when she was at the back.
Mind you the little point and shoots do have their place e.g. to put in ones pocket when going for a tramp or riding the bike.
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Post by fwx on May 16, 2011 21:35:22 GMT 12
The dpreview.com link above is to a Fuji press release, not an actual review. Google around and you'll find less glowing opinions, including "so-so image quality". Its just not possible to get real sharp pictures from a zoom that covers that range (24-720mm) at those f stops (2.8 - 5.6), not at this budget anyway.
And again, the Fujifilm FinePix HS20 EXR doesn't get you into a system of lenses and accessories that you can tap into later on if you ever want to go bigger and better - its an all-in-one camera that is effectively a dead-end in terms of developing your photography.
Really strongly definitely pleadingly recommend going with the Nikon DSLR Beags, you won't regret it!
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, so with the view finder going the whole time then this also chews up battery power. Mine was electric zoom, so again time, tick tick, tick. The new ones may be able to manually zoom.