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Post by beagle on May 16, 2011 21:39:25 GMT 12
Thanks for all the info so far guys. yes I have checked out quite a few sites for hs20 with regards reviews etc. I believe it is really the same as my old HP945 but with more features. My problem with it, apart from being not usable any more was that once a photo was taken there was quite a time lapse before the next photo could be taken, this using the screen on the back, now known as "live view " I believe. Not sure if it was faster with using the viewfinder as I found it must easier using the screen. So the options. Buy this fujifilm, which to me as soon as he started to try to sell it, sounded cheap, and while saving money will leave me with a camera just a bit better than i had, or Go for the D1300 and be up with big boys, or buy both with one which can be tucked into a wee bag around the waist. yeah right.
Wednesday is my Saturday so a trip to Noel Leemings it will probably be.
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Post by fwx on May 16, 2011 21:47:19 GMT 12
Beags, did you look at the Ch'ch Photo Warehouse price? Noel Leeming may do you a better deal, but the salespeople know way less about cameras and photography, so if price is comparable, try and get it from a "real" camera shop and you are more likely to get good advice and maybe the odd helpful freebie (like chucking in a free lens cleaning cloth and UV lens).
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Post by angels15 on May 16, 2011 22:31:34 GMT 12
Beags
I agree with fwx re the real camera shop thing.
I use photo and video at Merivale and they are truly excellent.
Nikon D3100 +18-55VR+55-200VR+ SDHC4.0GB $1235.00
This is off their site, how does this compair to NL?
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Post by beagle on May 17, 2011 5:19:07 GMT 12
The deal at NL is $1349, which includes camera, 4gb card, 16gb back up drive. photo warehouse are $1188 and they do the same finance card I was going to use. I might see them first and see what bags they have. Checked some of their back pack types and went WOW, almost as much as the camera.
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Post by htbrst on May 17, 2011 7:49:22 GMT 12
There are SD cards and SD cards - try and make sure you are getting a nice fast one to match the speed of the camera or you will get a huge drop in performance - you probably want something a bit bigger than 4GB too Memory cards, bags and accessories are where all of the margin is for most places so you can often lean on them to reduce prices or upgrade items (e.g. SD card) without too much effort. When I bought my last laptop I got them to give me a nice looking laptop bag at their cost + a 15% Margin - $150 bag retail down to $18.67
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Post by ErrolC on May 17, 2011 8:15:45 GMT 12
There are SD cards and SD cards - try and make sure you are getting a nice fast one to match the speed of the camera or you will get a huge drop in performance - you probably want something a bit bigger than 4GB too ... The D7000 specifies Class 6 SD cards, I assume the D3100 is the same. If you have Class 4 (like the NL DSE own-brand), you may struggle with video (and perhaps multi-shot-jpg, and more likely multi-shot Raw). If NL try to give you their Class 4, point them to the appropriate page in the manual where it specifies requirements.Sorry, got retailers mixed up.
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Post by Kereru on May 17, 2011 9:50:29 GMT 12
As I didn't have a suitable SD card when hiring the D7000 I bought a Class 10 32Gb off Trademe for under $100 delivered to my door. It also came with a 32Gb card on hire so a total of 64Gb and as I didn't have the plugin for D7000 camera on my old laptop I could not download them while at Omaka. Suffice to say I still had room for another 100 Raw pics when I got home. Best to have too much space on your cards than be looking for an extra card in a location where they maybe scarce or expensive.
Cheers
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Post by mileater on May 17, 2011 19:48:15 GMT 12
Regards size of the HS10/20 cameras... they are as big as the DSLRs (bigger in some cases) and weigh plenty as well. They are NOT a P&S that you can tuck into a pocket Shutter lag is very little if you are in manual (which is where you want to be for most shooting anyway) and only noticeable if you use the auto-focus a lot... they are not as quick as the DSLRs in this respect. Like all cameras, it would take a while for you to become familiar with their operation and find out how to get the best out of them. I own a Nikon F (1960/61 vintage) with lenses (no zooms) and, while I love using "proper" SLRs with their optical viewfinder, I have not had too much of a problem using the EVF (Electronic View Finder) on the Bridge Cameras despite their lack of resolution. I use them for framing a shot and for the information that they can provide while still holding the camera up to my eye. In all cases, I have found that there is enough resolution (even with the old S3000) to pick if the camera auto focus hasn't picked out the subject properly. I used to struggle at times with the optical finder on the Nikon, too, for picking good focus even in well lit subject areas. Another thing I got tired of when using the SLR was then need to change lenses for differing subjects and always longed for a decent zoom lens that would cover the majority of my use but, back when taking pics was my bread and butter, good ones were far too expensive. Things haven't changed that much as the "kit" lenses supplied quickly show their deficiencies when the pressure goes on! Even the Nikon glass isn't what you would hope for from such a reputable brand Take your time choosing this camera as there are many good ones available at reasonable prices both in DSLR and bridge camera formats. Personally, If I were to go looking at a DSLR with image quality and price high on the priority list, I would give the Sony Alpha series cameras a good going over as they can be had for much less than a Nikon or Canon and, in my opinion, has better IQ than any of them that are comparable in price. Hope this helps (confusing as it may be) Cheers, Allan
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Post by beagle on May 17, 2011 19:52:10 GMT 12
no, not confusing. Got offered a sony which had a high fps which the guy said would be perfect for a plane spotter but others have said that high fps isn't always the way to get a great shot. Hopefully by this time tomorrow I will be shooting away with a new product.
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Post by mileater on May 17, 2011 20:48:36 GMT 12
Good luck and don't forget to spill the beans when you get your new toy Cheers, Allan
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Post by fwx on May 17, 2011 21:24:17 GMT 12
Yeah, good luck Beags (and go Nikon!!!!) ;D
Cheers, Chris
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Post by beagle on May 17, 2011 21:35:14 GMT 12
going to be hard to take a photo of what i have bought
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Post by Dave Homewood on May 17, 2011 21:56:22 GMT 12
Mirror?
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Post by mileater on May 18, 2011 8:48:53 GMT 12
Phone camera??
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Post by beagle on May 18, 2011 10:19:47 GMT 12
haven't got a cell phone, never had one. pretty rare hey.
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Post by fwx on May 18, 2011 12:50:41 GMT 12
Bugger, the curiosity is killing me ... !!
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Post by pjw4118 on May 18, 2011 15:11:20 GMT 12
How about an invisible cow.
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Post by beagle on May 18, 2011 17:32:41 GMT 12
yippee back home with a box you guys heard of olympus
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Post by kiwitone on May 18, 2011 19:15:33 GMT 12
beags olympus new cameras are very good, my pal uses them professionally. the lenses are fantastic quality. he sold most of his pro minolta equipment to me over the years; which I now use on my a700 sony body...which is a much cheaper option than canikon too. if it fits you and you like it dont worry about whats written on the front o it, its the photographer holding the camera who counts
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Post by beagle on May 18, 2011 19:51:57 GMT 12
No sorry mate, I was just trying to wind up the others, but they have not been back to check up yet.
it came in a black and gold box, 2 boxes actually
booklet will take a while to read over 200 pages, so have put a wee bookstand in the toilet. have managed to charge the battery up and fit the strap. woo hoo
need to spend a week with Gavin in Blenheim to teach me everything.
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