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Post by beagle on Aug 25, 2011 11:02:27 GMT 12
Has anyone got the latest Pacific Wings and read the article about replacing our transport fleet.
If the heirachyy read it and are keen, the big Grizzly could be in our colours.
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Post by nige on Aug 25, 2011 11:43:19 GMT 12
What's a Big Grizzly Beags? :-)
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Post by beagle on Aug 25, 2011 11:49:56 GMT 12
A400  |
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Post by nige on Aug 25, 2011 12:12:47 GMT 12
Thanks - very apt name!
If we got them - your avartar (if changed too) could look pretty mean lookin'!
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Post by stereoimage on Sept 3, 2011 17:33:03 GMT 12
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Post by machpants on Sept 3, 2011 19:10:37 GMT 12
LOL that 2nd to bottom image looks like the jet is parked next to the water!
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Post by fyl on Sept 3, 2011 20:40:57 GMT 12
LOL that 2nd to bottom image looks like the jet is parked next to the water! That was exactly the first impression i had too...  |
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Post by silverfox on Sept 3, 2011 22:43:02 GMT 12
Not just me then.
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Post by Dave Homewood on Sept 4, 2011 0:06:36 GMT 12
Those are all very ugly aeroplanes, with funny bulges and bits tacked on. What is the big rectangle box on top of those twin jet things??
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Post by adzze on Sept 4, 2011 10:16:49 GMT 12
What is the big rectangle box on top of those twin jet things?? Most likely an electronically-scanned radar Dave, similar to Aussie Wedgetails: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_737_AEW%26CThey do look as though they'd make a clacking sound if you spun them around! |
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Post by beagle on Sept 4, 2011 17:48:21 GMT 12
The EMB 145 AEW&C is the most advanced and affordable Airborne Early Warning and Control aircraft available on the market. It is the perfect blend of Embraer’s proven, reliable and cost-effective ERJ 145 platform with a unique, high-performance, multi-mode active phased-array AEW radar, a powerful command and control system and a comprehensive set of support systems like ESM, self-protection and communications, including data-links.
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Post by beagle on Sept 4, 2011 17:49:47 GMT 12
Dave, the one "parked by the river" is
The EMB 145 MULTI INTEL is an advanced Remote Sensing / Airborne Ground Surveillance and Intelligence aircraft capable of providing real-time imagery and signals intelligence over ground objectives. It is equipped with an extensive sensor suite ranging from high-performance synthetic aperture radar to electro-optical sensors, in addition to communications and electronic exploitation systems capable of gathering complete intelligence information.
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Post by jonesy on Sept 4, 2011 19:22:28 GMT 12
The EMB 145 AEW&C is the most advanced and affordable Airborne Early Warning and Control aircraft available on the market. It is the perfect blend of Embraer’s proven, reliable and cost-effective ERJ 145 platform with a unique, high-performance, multi-mode active phased-array AEW radar, a powerful command and control system and a comprehensive set of support systems like ESM, self-protection and communications, including data-links. Boy, that sounds like a sales talk if I ever heard one! ;D |
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Post by beagle on Sept 4, 2011 21:40:35 GMT 12
you want fries with that igloo
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Post by bell407 on Sept 5, 2011 19:02:00 GMT 12
I' like to get C17's, at least 4 and 4 C130J's
48 F15E's although they aren't building them anymore so we'll take either 48 Euro fighter or F18F's, probably F18F's so we have parts and training in common with the Aussies, some Hawks too
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Post by beagle on Sept 5, 2011 19:18:59 GMT 12
C17's, too big, operating costs too big.
C130J's, too big at times, too small other times
we need something slightly bigger than a Herk to carry bigger items to get them there faster than the Canterbury, and also something slightly smaller but not too small.
A400 x 4 or 5, C235/295 x 3/3 C295MP x 5
Since we operate a huge maritime area, sometimes speed is essesntial to get out there and the P3 is ok at 375knots, so I am a bit against something like a twin turboprop doing 100 knots slower. P8 would be ok but not too sure regards operating costs compared with P3.
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Post by bell407 on Sept 5, 2011 19:47:49 GMT 12
Indeed, but in my world there cost is not an issue, I know, stupid, but they haven't started taxing dreams yet, I just love the C17 and would love to have an awesome air force.
I think we already have the awesome people in place, we just need some new toys is all.
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Post by Dave Homewood on Sept 5, 2011 20:06:54 GMT 12
C130J's, too big at times, too small other times How about a local mod to ad a section in the centre of the fuselage that consatinas out for extra length, like a pop-top caravan. ;D Mind you it might fly like a bendy bus. You make a very good point there Beagle, considering that a big part of the Orion's role is rescue work where every minute counts for stricken sailors, having a slower aircraft might mean lost lives I guess. |
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Post by ngatimozart on Sept 8, 2011 0:05:26 GMT 12
The A400 is too costly and pricing itself out of the market. It also has to many problems at the moment. We would have to wait until it has IOC with at least 3 or 5 air forces in order to make sure bugs are out of system and unit costs are down.
My suggestion is:
1 x C17 with the Kiwi roundel and a maintenance and replacement aircraft lease agreement with RAAF. More practical.
5 x C130Js.
8 x CN235s / C295s with pods for maritime recce workstations etc (only need 3 - 4 pods). Sensors fitted to all aircraft.
4 - 5 x P8 Poseidon.
12 -1 5 x AW159 Wildcats (5 shipboard [Seasprite replacements], 5 -8 close air support / training,2 -3 maintenance
Problem is NZs debt to GDP ratio is 98.2% so no way in present climate are any politicians going to agree to such a buy . They don't have the foresight, vision of intestinal fortitude.
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Post by 30sqnatc on Sept 8, 2011 18:12:31 GMT 12
Get real - two leased Fletchers that are only available on weekdays as they must spread muck on the weekends.
The pilots must wear bright colour boots made by the lead sponsor.
And Daves noseart idea replaced by sponsors logos.
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