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Post by camtech on Mar 20, 2023 13:20:34 GMT 12
Just passing North Cape, track appears to be for Ohakea eta about 1500.
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Post by hardyakka on Mar 20, 2023 13:41:08 GMT 12
Coming past Great Barrier island and heading down the Firth of Thames now...  |
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Post by hardyakka on Mar 20, 2023 13:43:41 GMT 12
Looks to be tracking overhead Hamilton, but we have a solid low overcast here... :-(
Feet dry, over Hunua Ranges.
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Post by delticman on Mar 20, 2023 14:22:48 GMT 12
Looks to be tracking overhead Hamilton, but we have a solid low overcast here... :-( Feet dry, over Hunua Ranges. Landed 1521. |
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Post by machina on Mar 22, 2023 9:53:37 GMT 12
Wonder if we’ll get a nationwide fleet flyby to mirror the Orions’ sign off, once all 4 have arrived?
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Post by ErrolC on Mar 22, 2023 18:24:32 GMT 12
More on timetable at the link www.navalnews.com/naval-news/2023/03/new-zealand-to-field-mark-54-torpedoes-aboard-p-8a-poseidon/New Zealand To Field Mark 54 Torpedoes Aboard P-8A Poseidon New Zealand's second P-8A Poseidon arrived home on March 20th. Meanwhile the New Zealand Ministry of Defence confirmed MK 54 Torpedoes are included in the P-8A Poseidon purchase. ... Sarah Minson, Deputy Secretary, Capability Delivery at the New Zealand Ministry of Defence told Naval News that “operational sensitivity” prevents them from discussing details, including quantity and timeframe, of the previously undisclosed purchase. |
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Post by ZacYates on Mar 23, 2023 11:09:35 GMT 12
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Post by machina on Mar 23, 2023 16:21:43 GMT 12
Even with the error it’s nice to see decent coverage.
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Post by ErrolC on Mar 30, 2023 14:47:57 GMT 12
www.beca.com/about-us/news-and-awards/march-2023/beca-to-develop-rnzaf-p-8a-poseidon-training-coursesBeca to Develop RNZAF P-8A Poseidon Training Courses Beca is proud to have been selected by Manatū Kaupapa Waonga - New Zealand Ministry of Defence to develop P-8A Poseidon training courses for the Royal New Zealand Air Force (RNZAF). Based on Royal Air Force (RAF) and United States Navy training material, we have teamed with Copernicus Technology Limited (UK), Aquila Learning (UK), and Catalyst Cloud (NZ) to deliver the training solution. Copernicus Technology Limited bring their experience in developing the RAF P-8A training courses using the Aquila ALaRMS™ Learning Management System. Catalyst Cloud will provide the sovereign hosting solution for the training development environment. Business Director – Major Programmes, at Beca Applied Technologies, Brian Fearnley, states that, “We are delighted to continue our support of NZDF Air Surveillance Reconnaissance Force capability. Following a 15-year association in the upgrade and support of the recently retired P-3K2 Orion, Beca are again engaged in a critical support and enabling role for the newly acquired RNZAF P-8A Poseidon fleet.” Beca is proud to be supporting the Manatū Kaupapa Waonga - Ministry of Defence and the New Zealand Defence Force to bring the RNZAF P-8A Poseidon capability into service
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Post by Dave Homewood on Mar 30, 2023 15:03:34 GMT 12
Good grief. The RNZAF used to have the best training system in New Zealand, for any and every trade that they employed. It was all run by the RNZAF itself, with incredibly thorough syllabus and highly experienced instructors who were all people that actually worked in the trade, not just mere career teachers.
Every trade course, whether it was flying or engineering or a support trade, was built upon generations of corporate knowledge and experience built up since the 1920s to make their training second to none.
So sad that the RNZAF is no longer capable of running its own training courses. And that civilian contracted companies have to be brought in. Some claim it is to save money. If your defence force hasn't the funding for training it's staff, find more funding FFS. Treasury can magically find more funding for every other government department but never for the one that really matters, defence.
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Post by skyhawkdon on Mar 30, 2023 15:12:01 GMT 12
Just about everyone at Beca Applied Technologies is ex RNZAF. They jokingly call it an RNZAF Squadron! Brian Fearnley was an Engineering Officer at Ohakea. They are a top company and a very capable team. Your observations about the state of the RNZAF however is pretty true Dave. Hence they have to outsource.
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Post by Dave Homewood on Mar 30, 2023 15:31:05 GMT 12
That is the very problem Don. If they were all still in the RNZAF they would also work on the job, as well as periodically become instructors, and they would develop training based on the real experience. Once they have left the RNZAF they won't ever be back working on the coalface, they will be classroom-bound, surely, so no chance to develop skills on the work front. They are detached with one sole purpose of teaching, that is how training courses and reality become divergent.
I do not know Beca, nor anyone involved, and I mean no disrespect to them. But don't you think the RNZAF would be better off having that much talent and experience rotating back into and out of the actual squadrons from the training school? Had the government paid them better wages they could have had a better result. Now they will be paying contractor rates, and surely that is no cheaper, and likely much dearer.
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Post by machina on Mar 30, 2023 18:37:53 GMT 12
Paying contractor rates, which will likely be more, and yet not attaining/retaining any corporate knowledge.
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Post by phil on Apr 1, 2023 22:16:17 GMT 12
So sad that the RNZAF is no longer capable of running its own training courses. That's not the issue. TBH, I'm not sure what problem this is supposed to be a solution to. We have very experienced P-8 maintenance instructors (some in their third year of instructing P-8), delivering and developing RNZAF training, and delivering and contributing to developing RAAF courses. Since 2021 these instructors have been integral to the delivery of RAAF P-8 maintenance training. Some of these instructors are back in NZ, some are still with the RAAF. RNZAF has definitely not lost the capability to run courses. |
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Post by Dave Homewood on Apr 1, 2023 22:23:00 GMT 12
That is good to hear Phil.
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Post by ErrolC on Apr 5, 2023 15:47:07 GMT 12
Doing the rounds
Ben Felton
As part of the journey towards Initial Capability Release (ICR) a #RNZAF P-8A (#NZ4802) is operating out of Nadi, #Fiji this week. For more info on the RNZAF P-8A transtion effort have a look at my March story for @navalnewscom.
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Post by falcon124 on Apr 5, 2023 20:13:58 GMT 12
A large number of air forces around the world are outsourcing training on the *concept* that it becomes a managed expense AND that they can take advantage of the provider's access to experience & "best practice" from other clients, staff, etc. If done correctly, it works very well and you get global lessons & knowledge applied into your courses, rather than just based on what your own (now limited) staff have experienced.
Of course, that's an *if* that doesn't always translate into reality...
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Post by Dave Homewood on Apr 19, 2023 16:48:02 GMT 12
No. 5 Squadron was officially stood up today at RNZAF Base Ohakea. |
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Post by machina on Apr 20, 2023 0:25:57 GMT 12
4801 paid a visit to Whenuapai the other day, makes a decent noise.
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Post by ErrolC on Apr 20, 2023 10:00:19 GMT 12
There are further production issues with 737s involving the attachment of the fin to the fuselage. I've seen some reports that these impact some P-8s (most reporting focuses on the impact to MAX models). Some already delivered 737s are likely to need inspection and possible Boeing remediation. www.ttnews.com/articles/boeing-boost-output-737s |
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