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Post by lumpy on Apr 17, 2017 9:36:49 GMT 12
I have a shot with the V-1 light visible as a blur on Friday night - neat! Same on the Harvard flame, realised after a couple of seconds that it was just a burp. And in the ongoing saga of Errol's transport hassles, I knew it wasn't going to be good when the pilot was hand-turning the Q300 prop while on the phone - awaiting engineer to check after birdstrike  Wife must have been going to be on the same plane as you Errol ( delayed due to bird strike ) . They are putting her on a flight to Wellington , then on to Auckland ( but she has to catch a connecting flight to Melbourne ) |
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Post by ErrolC on Apr 17, 2017 9:54:54 GMT 12
Yes, I assumed the calls for various passengers were to address connections. The Wellington flights have also been delayed, presumably for different reasons!
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Post by Geoff Soper on Apr 17, 2017 15:50:06 GMT 12
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Post by colford on Apr 17, 2017 15:57:18 GMT 12
Must be a Blenheim thing, flights out of Nelson to Wellington and Auckland were all running to schedule when we left about 2pm local. Had a good run on the drive back to Nelson. Nice to meet you if briefly Errol, photo you took of me with the Spitfire has elicited much envy by friends back home in Oz.
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Post by ErrolC on Apr 17, 2017 19:09:08 GMT 12
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Post by kiwithrottlejockey on Apr 17, 2017 20:51:40 GMT 12
Just got home to Masterton about 45 minutes ago. I haven't even started to look at my photographs yet and I'm going to be rather busy over the next couple of days, so it may be later in the week before I start trawling through the thousand or so photographs I took to see what I'll discard and what is worth keeping. I was using some different camera body-lens (and filter) combinations than usual over the weekend, so it will be interesting to see how they turned out.
I noticed a real scarcity of forum members at the awards dinner last night compared to previous years. It was a great evening in a wonderful setting (all of the aeroplanes had been put back into the venue except for the Yak 3) and at the end of the evening, Jane Orphan fired up the Stalingrad Experience for us, something which is a must if you visit the “Dangerous Skies” WWII section of the Omaka Aviation Heritage Centre.
BTW, I didn't notice Sir Tim Wallis at Omaka over the weekend, and he definitely wasn't at the dinner last night. It kinda stood out that he wasn't around.
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Post by campbellbox on Apr 17, 2017 21:52:24 GMT 12
My girlfriend likes taking photos of almost anything, so I am lucky enough to have her as my mostly willing companion and chief documentarian at airshows. All in all, a jolly good weekend was had by us both. We were SO lucky with the weather, and the organizers did a great job making the airfield possible to get onto and walk around safely. This is our mascot Petit Panda preparing for Twilight Extreme on Friday:
Twilight Spitfire trio: 
Steadfast in the gloaming:
The night time skirmish was best when lit by Nebelwerfer:  Saturday's show opened with the Black Falcons:  Someone needs a new pair of gumboots:  Steadfast was really impressive - it just never seemed to run out of energy:  And those smoke trails mesmerized me:  In amongst all the heavy metal the little bush planes were really impressive. I love their cartoon sized tyres:  V1:  Spitfire Mk XIV on the tail of the V1:  ...and doing a great impression of having knocked the V1 off course with it's wingtip:  Spitfire trio:   All the Fokkers on Sunday:   I have seen a few shots around of the Yak team's spaghetti break - organised chaos at its best:  And I could not leave out a shot of Harvard 15 in its new scheme. The colours and matt sheen make it look exactly right to me: 
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Post by johnnyfalcon on Apr 17, 2017 22:00:04 GMT 12
Terriffic, thank you so much for sharing!
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Post by Venomnut on Apr 18, 2017 7:58:14 GMT 12
What a fantastic show!
Well done to the organisers, volunteers, pilots and engineers who made it possible.
Dave, it was great to finally meet you and have a chat.
Highlights? So many, for me any Venom display will always be top of my list and for this show second equal would have to go to Steadfast and of course the 3 Spitfires in formation.
Happy with most of the photos I took over Friday and Saturday it was nice to watch Sundays show (apart from a couple of displays) not through the eye piece of a camera, something I haven't done in a long time!
My 6th CF airshow I've attended and I can't wait till CF 2019.
Jason.
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Post by zkarj on Apr 18, 2017 8:44:11 GMT 12
I've got 122 photos up on Flickr: www.flickr.com/photos/zkarj/albums/72157680655722801I enjoyed the show, but when discussing afterwards with my companions, it seemed that the overall programme was a bit thinner than in the past. (I've been to CF 2007, 2011.) Are we seeing a cooling off on the air show scene as happened pre-2000? Or am I just getting used to what we have on the scene and expecting more? |
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Post by Dave Homewood on Apr 18, 2017 10:36:21 GMT 12
I'd disagree, the programme was as good as ever. Perhaps the lack of the Mustang and the Bf108 Taifun might be sad, plus the Catalina having issues, and the Spartan not turning up on Sunday, but it was a great airshow overall.
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Post by kiwiduster1 on Apr 18, 2017 11:15:16 GMT 12
Lovely pics there zkarj. Thanks for sharing !!
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Post by zkarj on Apr 18, 2017 11:52:16 GMT 12
I'd disagree, the programme was as good as ever. Perhaps the lack of the Mustang and the Bf108 Taifun might be sad, plus the Catalina having issues, and the Spartan not turning up on Sunday, but it was a great airshow overall. No Tiger Moths (flying), in fact no pre-war De Havillands, the Gull took off and disappeared, the Herc only did a single pass, as did the A109. No Ag types, no civvy helicopters, no Proctor, no Messenger, no Taifun, no Mustang, no Thunder Mustang, no Nanchangs (though some were on the field), and if I'm remembering correctly, no individual displays by any of the WW1 stuff (all tied up in the 'scenario' excepting the Fokker formation) nor many of the WW2 types (again, Spitfires and P-40s tied up in 'scenario' only). Add to that the 'did not starts' (on Saturday) with the Fairchild F-24, Catalina and Beech C17. I'm not saying it wasn't a great show. I enjoyed it very much and everything that did display did a great job. It just seemed more concentrated on the handful of scenarios and with a somewhat limited turnout of aircraft. Without auditing the 2007, 2011, and 2017 shows against each other, my impression is this was the 'lighter' event of the three I've been to. |
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Post by baz62 on Apr 18, 2017 12:02:06 GMT 12
Speaking of flames though - did anyone catch the flames coming out of Harvard 15 at the top of a stall turn today? I guess it was just the fuel from the smoke system having a moment, but I was a bit freaked out for a moment. Used to see that quite often with Harvards as they don't usually like being upside down for very long. |
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Post by davem2 on Apr 18, 2017 12:38:00 GMT 12
I'd disagree, the programme was as good as ever. Perhaps the lack of the Mustang and the Bf108 Taifun might be sad, plus the Catalina having issues, and the Spartan not turning up on Sunday, but it was a great airshow overall. No Tiger Moths (flying), in fact no pre-war De Havillands, the Gull took off and disappeared, the Herc only did a single pass, as did the A109. No Ag types, no civvy helicopters, no Proctor, no Messenger, no Taifun, no Mustang, no Thunder Mustang, no Nanchangs (though some were on the field), and if I'm remembering correctly, no individual displays by any of the WW1 stuff (all tied up in the 'scenario' excepting the Fokker formation) nor many of the WW2 types (again, Spitfires and P-40s tied up in 'scenario' only). Add to that the 'did not starts' (on Saturday) with the Fairchild F-24, Catalina and Beech C17. I'm not saying it wasn't a great show. I enjoyed it very much and everything that did display did a great job. It just seemed more concentrated on the handful of scenarios and with a somewhat limited turnout of aircraft. Without auditing the 2007, 2011, and 2017 shows against each other, my impression is this was the 'lighter' event of the three I've been to. Eh? Both the Gull and Ryan did individual displays on Sunday, the Herc did numerous passes (low level unload & combat approach, high speed). Spitfire IX & XIV and P-40 did individual displays. Hallet's Ag aircraft (Agricola/ EP-9) had to pull out a week before the show, Wanaka P-51 was unable to make it after a problem was discovered, and several other aircraft were unable to come due to weather issues. Civil helicopters have never been part of CF |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 18, 2017 13:55:42 GMT 12
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Post by Peter Lewis on Apr 18, 2017 17:28:52 GMT 12
There were some differences between Saturdays and Sundays program.
You really had to be there both days to get the full effect.
I will be wandering Marlborough/Nelson/Golden Bay for the next week, before I can even look at my own photos.
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Post by Gavin Conroy on Apr 18, 2017 17:35:21 GMT 12
No Tiger Moths (flying), in fact no pre-war De Havillands, the Gull took off and disappeared, the Herc only did a single pass, as did the A109. No Ag types, no civvy helicopters, no Proctor, no Messenger, no Taifun, no Mustang, no Thunder Mustang, no Nanchangs (though some were on the field), and if I'm remembering correctly, no individual displays by any of the WW1 stuff (all tied up in the 'scenario' excepting the Fokker formation) nor many of the WW2 types (again, Spitfires and P-40s tied up in 'scenario' only). Add to that the 'did not starts' (on Saturday) with the Fairchild F-24, Catalina and Beech C17. I'm not saying it wasn't a great show. I enjoyed it very much and everything that did display did a great job. It just seemed more concentrated on the handful of scenarios and with a somewhat limited turnout of aircraft. Without auditing the 2007, 2011, and 2017 shows against each other, my impression is this was the 'lighter' event of the three I've been to. Eh? Both the Gull and Ryan did individual displays on Sunday, the Herc did numerous passes (low level unload & combat approach, high speed). Spitfire IX & XIV and P-40 did individual displays. Hallet's Ag aircraft (Agricola/ EP-9) had to pull out a week before the show, Wanaka P-51 was unable to make it after a problem was discovered, and several other aircraft were unable to come due to weather issues. Civil helicopters have never been part of CF Both the Taperwing and Staggerwing could not get here due to weather, didn't need a Proctor as we had the Gull which I saw in the air at least three times over the weekend. C-130 made one pass on Saturday , a small issue was noticed and it returned to WB but flew a full display Sunday, the C27 displayed Saturday and had a small technical hitch on the Sunday, and the A109 was not scheduled to be in the flying display. 6 Nanchangs flew in formation on the Sunday afternoon. As pointed out by Dave M2 the Wanaka based Mustang had an issue and was schedued to be in the Air Race. There was no "thinning out" in regards to the aircraft invited, we still had 12 WW1 fighters, 8 WW2 fighters, Anson, Avenger, an Omaka debut by a Sopwith Snipe flown by Kermit Weeks and an imported fighter from Austalia for starters. WW1 has been scenario based for several shows now, due to a couple of unfortunate last minute technical issues a couple of the Omaka based WW1 aircraft could not fly. We try to have as many WW1 aircraft in the sky at once rather than solo displays of those types. Catalina had a tech issue as well. I can tell you that nothing was easy and fortunately numerous aircraft arrived on Friday including the Yak and Harvard teams so their was a sigh of relief when those arrived! The schedule was changed many times to fit with all of the issues associated with the aircraft above which was admirable. Finally, great photos everyone! |
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Post by davem2 on Apr 18, 2017 18:08:08 GMT 12
Forgot to mention in the rush, as alluded too by Gavin, SIX Nanchangs ( a record for a Downunder event) flew top cover during the WWII scenario and also featured in the finale flypast. The intended line-up of Golden Age race and vintage support aircraft was thwarted by both weather and mechanical issues which kept Fairchild, Comper Swift on the ground at Omaka, Chilton on the ground at Rangiora, Taperwing, two Stearmans and AgCat on the ground at TGA, Beech C-17 on the ground at WKA, DH.60 on the ground at Bridge Pa, numerous Tigers on the ground around the country etc etc etc. The Messerschmitt 108 does not have a current CofA so was not available for the show.
Zac- I guess I was in the portaloo when those civil helicopter displays were on - oh well
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