About what? As far as I am aware the Singapore deal is still on. That is according to several currently serving people here, plus what Winston Peters said, and now this guy. In fact the only place I have seen any mention that the deal is off is in the rumours and speculation on this page.
Post by kiwithrottlejockey on Dec 6, 2018 15:37:02 GMT 12
I wa told a couple of months ago by somebody from Defence Headquarters who is a regular commuter on our Wairarapa trains that a number of Singapore Air Force officers had been posted to Ohakea for a period of two years and that their families were joining them. Also that negotiations over housing for Singapore personel were under way, so I guess that tends to say something.
If you aren't living life on the edge, you're taking up too much space!
I've done a bit of digging on the Parliment TV website and have found out that the conclusion of negotiations for the deal is required to be reported to cabinet by the end of this year. Also, I found a weblink to a project tender page which describes the construction of new infrastructure for the P-8's and how its going to be "all new construction" including 12,000 square meters of hangar space. Leading me to believe they are saving space for the F-15's even though the new P-8's are to be based there. I could be wrong.
12,000 m2 of hangar, office and workshop is pretty much what the sqn has now at Whenuapai. There's no room for F15's in that equation.
But what about the old 3 squadron hangar? The P-8's are going to use all "new construction" according to this.
Can't let fiscal efficiencies get in the way of shiny new toys, you know abit like the joke about always building an airbase with the runway last thing to be built because that way any cost over runs are going to be funded.
One would guess the hangar door is too low for 737 tail, although something to drop the tail by lifting the nose wheel wouldn't be hard.
#2 and #3 hangars are both earthquake prone. #3 has steel lattice inside it making it unstable for taller aircraft even if the doors were modified.
Easy to focus on aircraft, but most of the hangars should also be junked. The maintenance cost for old buildings is huge. And defence currently has around 1 building for every 4 people. Which is interesting in the it sense it illustrates how ad-hoc building works have been and how much of a headache maintenance is.
Ultimately both hangars have been heavily modified from their original form, and being heritage-listed isn't a strict protection from demolition. The position on the apron of #3 and #2 and the huge cost of bringing them up to a modern standard means they're probably one earthquake away from an emergency demolition. Heritage is all fine and dandy, but it can't compromise the operation of the base.
The trend these days is very much new build standalone facilities. If it goes ahead I'd be really surprised if the RSAF didn't build a new separated hardstand and hangar and ops buildings like they have at Pearce (PC-21s) and Oakey (Helo's).
Post by skyhawkdon on Dec 12, 2018 14:09:43 GMT 12
The bomb dump is on the SW side of the base but there is very little kept there these days due to the HSNO rules (it is too close to where people live and work). 5 Sqn are supposedly going over by the new 3 Sqn and MSS buildings on the NE side of the base, so no where near the current bomb dump. Will be interesting to see where the Singaporeans go if they come. No 3 hangar most likely initially but I wouldn't be surprised if they built their own new (and secure) facilities somewhere. My pick would be on the opposite side of runway 09/27 to the current (original) hangars.
Surely any runway extension will be at the Sanson end as the cost of earthworks to fill to the required level at the river end would likely be more than either altering the path of SH1 or putting a cut and cover tunnel in place.